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Wow...great post. Thanks for the time and effort.
 
My 2008 manual clearly states to use DexVI, no questions with this truck. The manual for my 2007 Classic in my sig, states " Manual Transmission Fluid GM Part No. U.S. 88861800, in Canada 88861801". Does anyone know what this fluid is ? Is it DexIII? For the record, I used DexVI Syn in this trucks transfer case. Thanks.
-Kevin

edit: Looks like DexVI is not recommended. www.cadillacfaq.com/faq/tsb/data/pip3836.pdf
Don't confuse the "MANUAL TRANSMISSION AND TRANSFER CASES" to the "Automatic Transfer cases". Your link talks about "MANUAL" transmissions and transfer cases.
The Manual Transfer case has the shifter in the floor. The Automatic Transfer Cases have the shifter knob on the dash.
Larry (michigancamper)
 
Don't confuse the "MANUAL TRANSMISSION AND TRANSFER CASES" to the "Automatic Transfer cases". Your link talks about "MANUAL" transmissions and transfer cases.
The Manual Transfer case has the shifter in the floor. The Automatic Transfer Cases have the shifter knob on the dash.
Larry (michigancamper)
I have the 3 button manual transfer case in the 07 lbz. I just used Car Quest Synthetic DEX VI.
 
Don't confuse the "MANUAL TRANSMISSION AND TRANSFER CASES" to the "Automatic Transfer cases". Your link talks about "MANUAL" transmissions and transfer cases.
The Manual Transfer case has the shifter in the floor. The Automatic Transfer Cases have the shifter knob on the dash.
Larry (michigancamper)
That is not exactly the case Larry. The T-Case in my 05 LLY is buttons on the dash and is considered a Manuel Transfer case. It has electronis controled shifter but is a manuel tranfer case.This is exactly where all the confusion comes from about the fluids. Manuel & Electronic doesn't equal Buttons & Stick.
 
That is not exactly the case Larry. The T-Case in my 05 LLY is buttons on the dash and is considered a Manuel Transfer case. It has electronis controled shifter but is a manuel tranfer case.This is exactly where all the confusion comes from about the fluids. Manuel & Electronic doesn't equal Buttons & Stick.

X2.
The 2001 thru 2007 HD's came with two transfer cases options:
261 - Manually actuated with floor shifter.
263 - Manually actuated with electronic shift pushbuttons


The other T-case we often hear about and get confused with is the 246, which is the "Automatic" one. It is with lighter duty vehicles. When in left in the Auto position, when speed sensors detect slippage in rear wheels, this T-case engages and now you're in the 4WD mode.
This is the T-case that requires the expensive blue AutoTrac fluid.
 
X2.
The 2001 thru 2007 HD's came with two transfer cases options:
261 - Manually actuated with floor shifter.
263 - Manually actuated with electronic shift pushbuttons


The other T-case we often hear about and get confused with is the 246, which is the "Automatic" one. It is with lighter duty vehicles. When in left in the Auto position, when speed sensors detect slippage in rear wheels, this T-case engages and now you're in the 4WD mode.
This is the T-case that requires the expensive blue AutoTrac fluid.
Thank you Modified much clearer explaintion than mine but the whole truth and nothing but the truth!
 
X2.
The 2001 thru 2007 HD's came with two transfer cases options:
261 - Manually actuated with floor shifter.
263 - Manually actuated with electronic shift pushbuttons


The other T-case we often hear about and get confused with is the 246, which is the "Automatic" one. It is with lighter duty vehicles. When in left in the Auto position, when speed sensors detect slippage in rear wheels, this T-case engages and now you're in the 4WD mode.
This is the T-case that requires the expensive blue AutoTrac fluid.

:thumb: thanks for the clarification. I thought differently.
 
X2.
The 2001 thru 2007 HD's came with two transfer cases options:
261 - Manually actuated with floor shifter.
263 - Manually actuated with electronic shift pushbuttons


The other T-case we often hear about and get confused with is the 246, which is the "Automatic" one. It is with lighter duty vehicles. When in left in the Auto position, when speed sensors detect slippage in rear wheels, this T-case engages and now you're in the 4WD mode.
This is the T-case that requires the expensive blue AutoTrac fluid.
Yup, sure is very confusing to say the least.
The info, as I stated previously, came from my dealer. That if the shifter for the transfer case was 'on the floor', it's a manual. And if it's the rotary switch 'on the dash', it's an automatic.
The owners manual doesn't make a distention. So I really still don't know for sure. You'd think the guys at the dealership would have it right but going on passed experience with them, I don't trust them completely either. Who's to know?

I find it hard to believe in the diesel supplement book they'd even mention the "Automatic Transfer Case Fluid" if they were referring to the "264" Transfer Case if that's the one in the 1/2 ton trucks (or mini's or whatever)

AGAIN....
The way it was explained to me... "if it has a motor on the transfer case and actuated by the switch in the dash, IT'S AN AUTOMATIC".
"IF THE SHIFTER IS ON THE FLOOR, IT'S A MANUAL".

Does GM have a Q & A thingy online to answer questions like this?
And is the Auto-Trac II stuff I have in there going to be harmful?
I'm leaving on a 3K mile trip the 16th of this month with a 3,000 lb camper and pulling a 2,000lb trailer. Ya, Ya, I know... nothing for this truck.
Larry (michigancamper)
 
Great report Dave - I'm off the fence, it's DexVI for my 06 push button manual shift transfer case fluid change
 
owns 2016 Chev Silverado 3500 SRW LTZ
Thanks for the informative writeup.

I was on the fence also...I can jump down now...looks like the case is getting Dex VI.

I think I may even have enough left in the shop...bonus!
 
Yup, sure is very confusing to say the least.
The info, as I stated previously, came from my dealer. That if the shifter for the transfer case was 'on the floor', it's a manual. And if it's the rotary switch 'on the dash', it's an automatic.
The owners manual doesn't make a distention. So I really still don't know for sure. You'd think the guys at the dealership would have it right but going on passed experience with them, I don't trust them completely either. Who's to know?

I find it hard to believe in the diesel supplement book they'd even mention the "Automatic Transfer Case Fluid" if they were referring to the "264" Transfer Case if that's the one in the 1/2 ton trucks (or mini's or whatever

AGAIN....
The way it was explained to me... "if it has a motor on the transfer case and actuated by the switch in the dash, IT'S AN AUTOMATIC".
"IF THE SHIFTER IS ON THE FLOOR, IT'S A MANUAL".

Does GM have a Q & A thingy online to answer questions like this?
And is the Auto-Trac II stuff I have in there going to be harmful?
I'm leaving on a 3K mile trip the 16th of this month with a 3,000 lb camper and pulling a 2,000lb trailer. Ya, Ya, I know... nothing for this truck.
Larry (michigancamper)
As hard as it is for you to "believe", it is true. HD GM trucks DO NOT HAVE automatic transfer cases that require Autotrac fluid. GM does a horrible job of putting their manuals/supplements together. DNewton3's write up is the most consise explanation I've come across in several searches online. Your dealer is probably like most and doesn't know their ass from a hole in the ground. Ask them about Dex VI vs Dex III and viton seal issues on the Allison 1000 trannys prior to a certain serial number and I bet they look at you with drool running down their face or they simply reply that DEX VI is fully backward compatible and you don't know what you are talking about.

From what I've read, it probably won't hurt anything it is just a huge waste of money and technically is not what New Venture says should be used. They actually make the t-case, not GM.
 
X2- Looking at the maual for the diesel 07 classic lbz the transfer case calls for auto- trak II Part number 12378508 So what is that? Dexron III or Dexron VI?
AutoTrak is a blue colored fluid that is ONLY for the auto-engaging transfer case that detects rear wheel slip and engages front drive by itself when in "auto" mode. It is not available in HD GM pickups. The GM manual is a POS and lists automatic transfer case fluid, even though automatic transfer cases are not available in HD pickups. If you have a three button "electronic" actuated transfer case, it is still technically a "manual t-case". You are an 07 Classic, so I believe your manual will say Dex III(h) for manual transfer case, use that. "Manual" does not exclusively mean floor shift lever.
 
Actually the manual for the 2007 classic specifically calls for Manual Transmission Fluid Gm Part No.. U.S. 88861800 I have also read several posts that state not to use Dex VI.


Subject:Manual Transmission Fluid Usage In 2007 And Prior Manual Transmissions And Transfer Cases - keywords case fluid manual transmission transfer #PIP3836B - (02/05/2007)

Models:2007 and Prior Passenger Cars and Trucks
2007 and Prior HUMMER H2
2007 HUMMER H3
2007 and Prior Saturn Passenger Cars and Trucks

This PI is superseded to add a note under concerns. Please discard PIP3836A.

The following diagnosis might be helpful if the vehicle exhibits the symptom(s) described in this PI.
Condition/Concern:

Use of manual transmission fluid part number 88861800 U.S. (88861801 Canada) in place of Dexron III.

Important Note: If the vehicle owners manual lists Dexron VI as the recommended transmission, transaxle or transfer case fluid disregard any information supplied in this PI. Use eSI and or the vehicle owners manual to determine what type of fluid should be used prior to referencing the below information

Recommendation/Instructions:

Manual Transmission fluid part number 88861800 U.S. (88861801 Canada) is currently available through GMSPO. Current and past model vehicles listed above with either a manual transmission or transfer case that REQUIRE Dexron III should use the above listed manual transmission fluid. This fluid is a direct replacement for Dexron III in manual transmissions and transfer cases. DO NOT use Dexron VI in place of the manual transmission fluid in any manual transmissions or transfer cases as a failure may result.


"If fluid part number 88861800 U.S. (88861801 Canada) is unavailable when servicing a manual transmission or transfer case, Dexron III can be used in it's place. DO NOT use Dexron VI in place of the manual transmission fluid in any manual transmissions or transfer cases as a failure may result"

So what is the deal????? Do I have to buy the Manual Transmission Fluid Gm Part No.. U.S. 88861800 or can I use Dex III, Dex VI????
 
Actually the manual for the 2007 classic specifically calls for Manual Transmission Fluid Gm Part No.. U.S. 88861800 I have also read several posts that state not to use Dex VI.





So what is the deal????? Do I have to buy the Manual Transmission Fluid Gm Part No.. U.S. 88861800 or can I use Dex III, Dex VI????
What a deal. It depends on who you talk to as to which fluid you should use. I know there always some misprints and non-updated information in owner's manual's of new trucks. It's a crock though when you get conflicting information to specific questions from the manufacturer.
Again, my manual says to use "Auto-trac II" in the transfer case.
Yours is a 2007 Classic, Mine is a 2007.5 non-Classic. Yet GMC put in DEX VI at the factory.:banghead:

As far as the "Auto or Manual" debate... that also seems to be "who you talk to". Everyone I talk to eye-ball to eye-ball says if you manually shift the thing on the floor, it's a manual. If you turn the knob or push a button on the dash, it's an auto.

I'm goin' with the printed word in the manual. I figger if it's wrong and it was detrimental to the truck they'd issue a recall of somekind. If they don't and the thing goes South, I've got a warranty.

I'm not going to use a non-recomended fluid just because of what some one says here that isn't backed up by company that is responsible for repairing it when she blows.
Larry (michigancamper)
 
Actually I believe your dealer is partially incorrect in his description. There is an option that eliminates the lever on the floor. It is the Electronic Transfer Case. (That is what we have) The Auto when set to AUTO 4WD and driving engages the front axle, but the vehicles power is primarily sent to the rear wheels. When the vehicle's software determines a need for more traction, the system will transfer more power to the front wheels.
 
Actually I believe your dealer is partially incorrect in his description. There is an option that eliminates the lever on the floor. It is the Electronic Transfer Case. (That is what we have) The Auto when set to AUTO 4WD and driving engages the front axle, but the vehicles power is primarily sent to the rear wheels. When the vehicle's software determines a need for more traction, the system will transfer more power to the front wheels.
Yup, I know.
I've heard that explanation before but have been, so far, unable to substantiate it.
Like I said,... "Depends on who you talk to". I admit, it sounds right though.
 
Nohto,
I hear what your saying, and I tend to agree. I just can not verify it.

What makes it so troubling is the fact that my "manual transfer case" as some call it, came with "DEX III" in it.
If I had taken it to the dealer for service, they're telling me they'd put DEX III back in it even though the service manual (owner's manual) says to use "Auto-Trac II".

Again... "depends on who you talk to".:sign_weir
Larry (michigancamper)
 
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