[6APPEAL]

Subscribed. Waiting on test results.

 

[chargeit]

Other types of biodiesel base stock; Palm, Coconut, Rapeseed, Used Veg Oil.

My local biodiesel uses primarliy Soy and another, I cant remember.

 

[Dmax 5th Wheel]

Id like to see where Power Service Diesel Kleen ranks now & where Power Service Diesel Fuel Supplement would rank.

 

[alvareracing]

walmart 2 stroke oil

 

[jc64]

I would like to see Stanadyne's Performance Formula and the Lubricity Formula tested.

........

X2 on Stanadyne.

As of April 1, 2011, all diesel fuel sold or offered for sale in Oregon must be a B5 biodiesel blend. I wonder how the states bio (or B5 in general) interacts with the Stanadyne's Performance Formula.

I have used Stanadyne's Performance Formula since the second (or third?) tank full in my 2005 in 2005. I would like to see how a set of injectors that have had additive used compare to the same model year and mileage of a set that never had a additive added.

jc

 

[Kappa9012]

caterpillar fuel additives part #246-4968 fuelc conditioner, and part #343-6210 diesel fuel system cleaner.

I work at Cat and quite frankly am not sold either of these products are worth a damn, but many claim it's one of the best on the market.

 

[Furnitureman]

Pri-D is an additive I've used off and on for years. The MFG claims it adds lubricity as well as keeping the fuel fresh.

 

[07keo02]

I would like to see XDP fuel treatment tested. Not to be confused with opti-lubes XPD formula. XDP was not on the market at the time of the first test.

 

[boothybunch]

i would like to see the low/no ash two stroke oil as that is available almost anywhere EVEN here in the UK

 

[Rockhead]

Id like to see where Power Service Diesel Kleen ranks now & where Power Service Diesel Fuel Supplement would rank.

X2. I'm getting Opti-Lube from the big brown truck, but Power Service is all over the place around here.

Subbed.

 

[fastorange]

i would like to see some of the cen-pe-co stuff tested...

 

[b4black]

I have a friend that works in a fuel testing lab. I pick up diesel samples for him at retail sites from time to time. I showed him the old test - he said it was pretty much meaningless and explained why.

1) All base diesel fuels are different. The will respond differetly to each additive. in other words, a good additive for base fuel A may be a poor additive for base fuel B.

2) The HFRR test itself is very imprecise. He can run the same full multiple times and get different results each time. Results plus or minus 50 units apart for the same fuel are normal. Many labs do thier own repeats as part of QC - he recommends asking for these results if possible.

3) If looking for pass-fail, one test is enough. When trying to rank fuels, he recommends running in duplicate, even triplicate. Too easy for a single test to have something go wrong.

4) Nearly all retail samples pass and are well into the 400's already. Many are in the 300's. They already have thier own additives from the distribution terminal.

5) When mixing two additives (the additives already in the fuel and then the aftermarket additive by the owner), some help each other and some hurt each other.

6) If you want to start with an unadditized fuel, buy some Kerosene. It's basically diesel #1 without any additives. Diesel #1 is typically worse to begin with than diesel #2, so it is a more severe test.

To do it right, you would need a variety of fuels each run mutilple times with each additive. He said people using aftermarket additives probably won't hurt anything, but then probaly don't help much either. He doesn't know of any issues cuased by poor lubricty fuel - that gasoline and water contamination are a much bigger problem.



(PS - I'm just the messenger. Maybe whoever sets up this second experiment can discuss these points with the lab that runs the new tests.)

 

[boothybunch]

I have a friend that works in a fuel testing lab. I pick up diesel samples for him at retail sites from time to time. I showed him the old test - he said it was pretty much meaningless and explained why.

1) All base diesel fuels are different. The will respond differetly to each additive. in other words, a good additive for base fuel A may be a poor additive for base fuel B.

2) The HFRR test itself is very imprecise. He can run the same full multiple times and get different results each time. Results plus or minus 50 units apart for the same fuel are normal. Many labs do thier own repeats as part of QC - he recommends asking for these results if possible.

3) If looking for pass-fail, one test is enough. When trying to rank fuels, he recommends running in duplicate, even triplicate. Too easy for a single test to have something go wrong.

4) Nearly all retail samples pass and are well into the 400's already. Many are in the 300's. They already have thier own additives from the distribution terminal.

5) When mixing two additives (the additives already in the fuel and then the aftermarket additive by the owner), some help each other and some hurt each other.

6) If you want to start with an unadditized fuel, buy some Kerosene. It's basically diesel #1 without any additives. Diesel #1 is typically worse to begin with than diesel #2, so it is a more severe test.

To do it right, you would need a variety of fuels each run mutilple times with each additive. He said people using aftermarket additives probably won't hurt anything, but then probaly don't help much either. He doesn't know of any issues cuased by poor lubricty fuel - that gasoline and water contamination are a much bigger problem.



(PS - I'm just the messenger. Maybe whoever sets up this second experiment can discuss these points with the lab that runs the new tests.)

Anychance we can have details of this testing lab??? as it seems odd that you have been on this site for nearly 8 years and have little to no posts

 

[Landmine]

I'd like to see some waste fluids. Waste ATF and WMO.

Both filtered to running status and then tested.

 

[a bear]

I would also test basic #2 pump fuel.
This would be a check and balance approach for those who feel refineries are properly adhering to lubricity standards.

 

[b4black]

Anychance we can have details of this testing lab??? as it seems odd that you have been on this site for nearly 8 years and have little to no posts

It's just a contract testing lab. Knowing details won't change anything. I joined 8 years when I was looking for a diesel truck. Decide to go with a 12 valve Dodge Cummins. I still look/read here from time to time.

Like anything else you read on the internet, you don't have to believe it - it's just something to consider for making the second tests better. If you prefer to have one fuel represent all diesel fuel in the U.S. (or world, since you're from the U.K.) then go ahead.

 

[Dmaxmoe]

How about Forté Premium ULS Diesel Booster? I and several others I know have been using this stuff with good results for a couple years now.

 

[boothybunch]

It's just a contract testing lab. Knowing details won't change anything. I joined 8 years when I was looking for a diesel truck. Decide to go with a 12 valve Dodge Cummins. I still look/read here from time to time.

Like anything else you read on the internet, you don't have to believe it - it's just something to consider for making the second tests better. If you prefer to have one fuel represent all diesel fuel in the U.S. (or world, since you're from the U.K.) then go ahead.

If it's just a contract testing lab, we can still have a name or is it SUPER SECRET???

I don't believe ANYBODY unless I read the similar story from different sources.

Also when ever I have seen guys brought in to test fuel from gas station, They have been company vehicles sent down for the sample, not joe down the road.

I have noticed that all your 4 post have been about diesel fuel. Call me skeptical but isn't that coincidental or what?

 

[D.Camilleri]

My thoughts are that lubricity is only one part of what an additive needs to do. The others are the ability to get rid of water and their detergent ability or the ability to keep injector nozzles clean and free from carbon, which to me is much more important. Also, a lot of these additives claim to raise the cetane level of the fuel. Do they really work.

 

[CoopsDenali]

How about Red Line - Diesel Fuel Catalyst. A friend talked me into trying it and I'd like to see how it stacks up with other brands.