Thanks for the results

 

So it looks like there is minimal HP/Torque gain with the Kodiak MP on a fairly stock truck, but EGTs are held in check. Looks like with the Boost stick the Kodiak MP keeps the EGTs very much under control.

Thanks for taking the time (and your hard-earned $$) to do this test!

 

If these are peak numbers, how do the curves look through the rpm range? 1500-3400rpm? I was never a fan of advertising peak numbers but would rather see how the curve changes through the whole range.

Let's just say i've seen lower peak numbers make more average hp across a curve and thus be quicker and faster all around.

 

The curves are almost identical except with the subtle bump in power.Only exception is Predator 120 kodiak mp tune peak hp comes on 250 rpm earlier.Other than that it is so minor you wouldnt know it was different chart.The EGT reduction is really the benefit.

 

Well, I posted on the other thread that I thought there would be a 10-15 hp increase pushing it hard. I'm a little over 500 hp with mine. I still say its a drivability mod & I'm still happy with mine.

I also offered to pony up a little $$ to help out with the dyno expenses. Send me your Paypal address and THANKS for doing this!! :thumb:

 

With over 400hp to the ground Im at least over 500 at crank.Ken recommends lift pump if I want to keep running that tune and not loose an injector.One more thing to save up for I guess.
Pm sent

 

Interesting stuff and settles that question and/or debate.... Any chance you have the dyno graphs electronically or able to post them, would be also very interesting like Confrontational stated to see HP and TQ curves through the rpm range.

Thanks again for sharing the info, very much appreciated! You're the man!

 

kinda what I expected. thanks for doing that. As long as it's not losing power and I have no risk of overheating then I'm happy.

 

Thanks Demp - you da man!

 

Thanks Demp...

 

Definately makes me feel better about spending the money, I mean it looks like it would help, but nice to see on paper. Thanks

 

Cool, so that's it for the Kodiak. I wonder if there would be a difference with the LBZ mouthpiece. It has a bigger inlet than the Kodiak does right?

Thanks for taking the time and effort to put up some numbers for us.

 

Cool, so that's it for the Kodiak. I wonder if there would be a difference with the LBZ mouthpiece. It has a bigger inlet than the Kodiak does right?

Thanks for taking the time and effort to put up some numbers for us.

dear god, here we go again

 

great results now to find somewere that stocks the lbz-kodiak mouth piece

 

I realize that it is difficult to steady all variables, but I just want to point out an observation. All the "after" runs are performed under heat soak conditions, progressively. If you logged IAT, and can post that, this will be more evident. It is well documented that heat soak and reduced MAF from rarified conditions leads to underperformance. IMO, these results are a little conservative from this perspective.

Nice effort, thanks Demp.

 

I realize that it is difficult to steady all variables, but I just want to point out an observation. All the "after" runs are performed under heat soak conditions, progressively. If you logged IAT, and can post that, this will be more evident. It is well documented that heat soak and reduced MAF from rarified conditions leads to underperformance. IMO, these results are a little conservative from this perspective.

Nice effort, thanks Demp.

Yep, I agree it should be accounted for.

Oops forgot to say Thanks Demp and nice job.

 

"My bet would be minimal results. HP between 5-10, EGT 100-120 and torque about 25. My seat of the pants is minimal gain, although I have the LBZ intake and mouthpiece. I have not seen any significant changes in performance or egt."


It looks like GM and KB are the ones who benefited on this mod.

 

BS. For the cost, the extra power and lower EGT's are well worth it. It's also fixing something that GM should have engineered correctly in the first place.

 

Demp, thanks for doing this!!!!

 

Good work, looks like it will be a good thing for an engine with a bad reputation. Thanks for doing this.

 

Thanks demp, awesome results, my "BUTT" Meter was right on the money

 

Thanks demp!

It looks like the numbers are more along the lines of what I expected. I'm a hot rodder: I've worked on and had/have cars that I've done a ton of work on. I think I have a good sense of 'feel' when gains are made, and was quite sure there would have been more seat of the pants feel if there was indeed these 35-40hp gains that were claimed. I've achieved those type of gains on other vehicles, and the effects were noticed immediately. Of course, those vehicles weighed less than half of what these trucks weigh


Demp,

Like Rick D Lance, I'm still willing to contribute towards your dyno time. Or, if you or the general public here wants another set of numbers to chew on, I will work on getting a price for dyno time. Earliest I can get on the dyno now will be 3/23.

Thanks again!

 

...wants another set of numbers to chew on, I will work on getting a price for dyno time. Earliest I can get on the dyno now will be 3/23.

Thanks again!

if you do it above 6000 ft elevation, and can use a tune I provide, then I will pay half.

I am repeating myself, but I want to stress that on a dyno run like this, we don't see the best aspect of this mod...the compression heat reduction to the induction process, and the turbo shaft rpm reduction.

IMO

 

x100 thanks for info, I call it free hp cause for the price of the mod it does what it was supposed to do!!

 

Nice, again thanks for the results. It is nice to finally have some numbers to dis spell a lot of speculation, although the discussion was interesting.

 

Thanks for posting your numbers... I thought it would be a little more then you had seen, but then I have the complete LBZ intake tract.

The curiosity is getting to me now. I will have to check my local dyno shop to see if they would do my truck now. Being a ricer tune shop, could their dyno accommodate the torque of a diesel?

 

You have to ask.A few that I checked with couldnt handle torque let alone size of truck.Needed to pull off outside duals.
Imlers dyno just rolled truck right on up with about 8 inches on each side.

 

Demp,

Check your e-mail, you have a few $ sent your way!

Thanks again for taking the time to test this. Have a few beers on me!!!


Out of curiousity, how much time did all your pulls take?

 

Almost 1 hr exactly. Appx 12 min break between each set and appx 1 min per pull.
After that we did pulls with boost stick and a few 1/4 mile simulation 2wd pulls.
Thanks again.Very much appreciated. Tri tip BBQ tonight!!!

 

Sorry, I couldn't send more.

Guys step up and make sure he at least gets his expenses covered. He did this to help all of us.

 

man, I never had folks reimburse me for anything I've done in the past 5 years for the group. that sure is nice to be appreciated. thanks again for the effort Demp

 

briano,

Sorry to hear that. I might have missed some of your work, or the subject was one I passed over, or I'd have sent something your way. Don't stop experimenting and sharing results; there might be more of me out there that are willing to contribute, since you will have saved us so much time by doing the testing.

Now ya got me thinking, and I'm gonna dig thru here and see what you've all done!

 

great job I don't care about the hp/torque gains its the egt reductions that have me excited

 

Thanks again to those that donated and to Duramaxdave for shipping me his stock LLY mp. Without it I wouldnt have been able to compare.
This site and its members are full of great info and am glad to help as it has provided me with many great improvements to my truck.