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Really haven't noticed that they are worse on ice or snow. I agree with the "they will get stuck easier" though!:muahaha:
 
Worse...

Ya gotta buy SIX chains on a 4x4 in CA! :D
 
Discussion starter · #23 ·
Nope no plowing, but i am concerned about runnin empty over ice and i dont really want to move 1,000lbs of sand bags every other day.

I did notice when I parked on a solid piece of ice, truck was still movin forward after I got out:eek: damn near fell on my ass tryin to hold it back
 
Dual = bad in snow. My dad a daully verision of my truck and could not go any where in the snow with 2wd. I don't know where you guys live but up in the white mountains I have seen more duallys suck spinning even when they are in 4 wheel drive. Remeber a dual spreads its weight over 6 spots vs 4 spots on a singal rear wheel. I would never buy a truck for snow country without 4x4. Your nuts if you do... Either that or you don't live in true snow country. I have never gottan my singal rear stuck. I dug out my dad's dual so many times on the slighiest of hills...

Also with a dualy the center of gravity is inbetween the two tires on the rear. Weight is evenly spread between the two tires. On a singal rear wheel truck its right on that one tire.

Those plowing do you have a sander in the back? If so there you go you got weight!
 
Dooley's work very well, generally better than single wheel trucks. I drive snow plows in the winter and they are single and tandum....Dooleys!

Weight on the rear axle and good tires are key to snow driving with a truck. A couple hundred pounds of sand bags work great for a pick-up!

I live in mountainous snow country. I have had single wheel 2 and 4 wheel drive and 2 and 4 wheel drive dooleys. All work well if weight is distributed properly and you drive sensible!

When it is time for chains, put them on! Outside drivers on the Dooley is all you need and easy to install.

Drive beyond the limits, your in the ditch!
 
I'm starting to get the feeling some people really don't know how to drive
Might be part of it MAC.

Duals are for load and do add tons of traction on when loaded properly, especially on dry road. Most if not all 26,000 lb med duty trucks are duallys.... for load, not traction.

Around these parts tractor trailers get stuck all the time in the snow and they have 18 tires.
 
If we get 20 or 30 storms a winter we have 10 or 15 different conditions . No one truck or set up is the best for all of them. Weight on the drive wheels , skinny tires . Too much weight in the back of 2wd and you can't steer . 4wd low is too much torque and the most important , the DRIVER.

FWIW they make chains for duel wheels , much better set up than 2 singles.
 
the snow we get in this part of the country is not the dry powdery type of snow they get at my wife's home in South Dakota ... ours is wet/heavy/mostly ice .... have found that our dually has to break 6 tracks through the snow where our previous 4 wheel truck had to break 2 ... have driven ours in snows up to 10" and managed to get through without major problems but do feel a 4 wheel (4-wheel drive) truck does go a bit better in our type of snow ... as with all trucks, the key is the weight on the front end

Jim
 
about the chains thing......gm says it voids your warrantee so I dont use them...(when I do venture towards the mountains)
 
Come on guys. I drive and have driven my Dually in snow for the last 5 years...I do not add sand bags, weight or anything else to the bed. In fact I have driven in 1-2 foot snow drifts without issues. I have only put the truck in 4wd a couple of times. I winch people out of ravene's and ditches on and off through out winter on the hwy 168. I have been in 2500HD's that have gotten lose and they had larger tires and wider wheels. Bottomline....Good tires. Proper driving skills are the key to driving in snow or icy conditions. The tire patch physics and all that other propaganda are well...just that.....
 
The initial question was not about driving skill, although I agree 100% that this is the key to getting around in the snow, the question was is a dually better or worse than a single wheel....and I believe the single wheel will do better than the dually all things being equal.
JP
 
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wonder what the MPG is with those??
 
Heartbeat,

I agree. I think I answered it fairly. I honestly do not believe there is any difference. I think it may be a perception by some and belief by others but at the end of the day it really does boil down to tire choices and quality driving practices. I personally think the weight of my dually has been a key to me driving through drifts of snow. But again.... Just an opinion.....
 
Heartbeat,

I agree. I think I answered it fairly. I honestly do not believe there is any difference. I think it may be a perception by some and belief by others but at the end of the day it really does boil down to tire choices and quality driving practices. I personally think the weight of my dually has been a key to me driving through drifts of snow. But again.... Just an opinion.....
Yeah, you're probably right that the difference...if there is one....will be offset by tire choice and driving technique. I just figured that more wheels in back means the weight is distributed over a larger contact patch (25% over each wheel) with the dually, where as the single wheel has 50% over each wheel.
JP
 
Getting stuck

I worked on a farm where we had a 2wd dually, and I would get that thing stuck as soon as I got off the gravel when I would feed on a rainy day. I would tell a co-worker (who drove a dually as his personal truck) he would wait untill I was not around and dirve it out like it was on concrete. He would laugh and tell me you just have to know how to drive a dually. Of course he never told me the secret.

Now I own a dually one day this young grasshopper will learn the secret. Of course it is 4wd I quit buying a 2wd's when I got stuck in my yard I get too agressive.

BTW my truck ways 7500lbs. If I need sandbags for additional weight there is something wrong.
 
My neighbor had a duelly and he now has a 2500hd and he thinks that his srw is the **** in the snow. he said that his duelly was a pain because the rear was always fighting to stay in the tracks of the front. he said the back would fishtail constantly. he loves being able to run the same tracks as everyone else without having to drive the thing to keep it going straight. from that alone i would say srw's are easier to drive in the snow. all my uncles seem to think that srw's are the setup for plowing snow. they love the cclb becuase of the wheelbase, but also hate turning them arround.
 
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