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Cognito Alignment

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#1 ·
I recently installed a NCT stage 4 to my truck. I cranked the Tbars 2 inches. With the Bilsteins and over 1 inch of space between the UCA and the stops, the truck rides better than new. I now can hit larger bumps without the tires leaving the ground. Plus the steering is tighter than ever.

My problem is the alignment. I have a slight pull to the right that is driving me nuts. I also have unusual wear on the tires. I have cupping 1 inch from the outside tread, on both front tires.

I installed the kit New Years day and did the alignment the same day. I had a hard time finding someone that had a rack big enough to handle the long wheelbase of the truck.

Sears was open that day and had a rack large enough, but only would align to factory specs not Cognito specs. I knew my time off work was limited and it would be a long time before I can get it done again, so I had Sears do it

We get a large amount of rain here in New Orleans (I have seen 5 inches in a hour before) therefore we have a large amount of crown in the roads. I read it is a good idea to have slightly more camber on the left and slightly higher caster on the right.

Here is the specs after the alignment.
Camber left .6° Camber right .5°
Caster left 4.7° Caster right 4.9°
Toe left .04° Toe right .03°

There is a guy here in town that specializes in alignments. As a matter of fact the only thing he does is alignments. He works by appointments only. With a two week lead time, his schedule and mine may never meet.
Looking at Cognito's specs I might be better with a little more Caster and the Camber a little closer to 0°.

Any alignment specialist out there. I would also love to hear from NorCal Nick and LMM GUY. I will be having the tires balanced and rotated tomorrow. Afterwards I will keep a close eye on tire wear.

If I ever get the truck to the alignment specialist, what numbers should I shoot for?
 
#3 ·
I have the same issue...but I have just dealt with it for 2 years now. No alignment shop could get rid of the pull after the Cognito install. I also couldn't get the caster to ever come in. I was sent a 2nd set of arms thinking the first set was manufactured wrong, paid for a 2nd alignment, same issues.

Truck rides nice...as long as you hold the steering wheel at 2 o'clock.
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#4 ·
I have slight pull to the right and I have mine aligned twice, I dont know the results from the alignment, I just assumed my alignment guy just wasnt saavy, but now I am wondering if many others have this issue or just a few?
 
#5 ·
A lot of tire shops and places like Sears don't really have decent alignment skills. A pro-alignment or suspension shop is always the best shot. There is a fair amount of adjustability on the UCAs too, so a decent shop should get them up to specs.
 
#9 ·
A lot of tire shops and places like Sears don't really have decent alignment skills. A pro-alignment or suspension shop is always the best shot. There is a fair amount of adjustability on the UCAs too, so a decent shop should get them up to specs.
I totaly agree with you. Now days an alignment is some kid pulling the truck on the rack and hooking it up to a computer. When the computer tells them it is within spec they are finished. They don't know the first thing about all the angles and what they do. And if you ever look at the factory specs, they have a very large span IMHO.

After changing the UCA's and tie-rods i wasn't about to drive around a month on it until I could get a real alignment by a specialist. So after being rejected by four stores because the truck was too long, Sears got the job.

What I was looking for was, someone that knows alignment to see my numbers and tell me they are all wrong.

For example, I have the Cognito braces and tie-rods. The steering is real tight. I don't believe I need as much toe-in as others. I can favor a little less toe-in and still keep the alignment in spec.
 
#6 ·
My truck has the Cognito kit and drives perfectly. Everything is set to Cognito's specs and I can let o of the wheel and it will drive straight and true for ever. The only thing I can say is, make sure the ball joints were installed correctly, and have it aligned to Cognito's specs. If the Ball joints weren't installed correctly, it won't align properly.
 
#7 ·
What would be an "incorrect" way to install the ball joint?
 
#8 ·
Good point on the ball joints. Check out paragraph 4 in the instructions:
http://www.cognitomotorsports.com/pdf/7012.pdf

The ball joint installs either under or above the UCA depending on if you're going to level it or leave it at the stock height. Mount it under the UCA for leveling your truck to take a lot of stress of the joint from extreme angles.
 
#10 ·
I did the eye-ball and level method to get me by until I was able to get it into a shop. It sucks having to wait, I can see why you had to take it to sears.
 
#12 ·
I did the same, just to make the truck drivable. The truck now has an alignment but has a slight drift to the right.

I PM Nick my number and am expecting a call from Jeff. Afterwards I most likely will take it back to Sears. With NCT's help maybe I can hold Sears' hand and walk them through it. I would like to try Sears one more time because there hours are convenient and I did PAY for an alignment.

If things don't work out, the alignment is good enough to drive on for a few months until I can get it into an alignment specialist. This Guy is pretty good. He doesn't do oil changes or tires, all he does is alignments. Unfortunately I work 60 hours a week and he is by appointment only.

BTW In no way am I disappointed with this kit. The Bilstiens keep the tires on the ground and take the bounce out of the truck. The braces and tie-rods make the steering tighter than new.
 
#13 ·
I think Jeff said you guys talked so keep us posted. I always tell people just because you have the "Sticker" on your truck doesn't mean it's going to work right:D. So we are here to help our customers to make sure it works in the end and alignments tend to be the last issue people face.
 
#15 ·
I did talk to Jeff and he gave me some suggestions on what needed to be done.

I got it back to Sears and they said the alignment was perfect. Jeff nailed on the head, he said if they try to suggest it was the tires walk.

I took upon myself to add a little positive caster to the right side myself. I turned the rear cam two ticks. It now drives perfect. Maybe when i need new tires next year, I will get a real alignment.
 
#16 ·
I did talk to Jeff and he gave me some suggestions on what needed to be done.

I got it back to Sears and they said the alignment was perfect. Jeff nailed on the head, he said if they try to suggest it was the tires walk.

I took upon myself to add a little positive caster to the right side myself. I turned the rear cam two ticks. It now drives perfect. Maybe when i need new tires next year, I will get a real alignment.

my truck does the same thing it is extremly slight drift to the right and i had it aligned twice. when you say you turned the rear cam two ticks on the right side do you mean the passenger side of the truck and if you are looking as the front passenger tire are you refering to the cam to your left. Plus when you turned it two ticks was that rotating the cam down or up and did you losen the front cam (right side if your looking at the passenger tire) just a little before you turned the left cam two ticks up or down? i may try the same thing???