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I have been reading all night on lift pumps and Im wondering witch one to get. I have jioned the wont start with out priming club and Im looking for the best way to fix the trouble.
TTS pump is around 500 and Kennedy is 800. besides price witch set up is the easyest to install and why should I pay 800 and not 500?
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Give the Superdiesel pump a try. I'm running his set up with my LBZ and it holds 22000 with my PPE Hot+2 on level 6. It's a pump,filter,mounting bracket,cab switch and boost switch for a touch over $300. Seems to be working great and holding enough fuel. Everything comes in the kit as well. Give Mike a call at Superdiesel.
JMO on fuel pumps buuuuut.......unless its rated for continuos use and diesel fuel I wouldnt use it unless you dont mind or plan ahead for it dieing. Some pumps dont like diesel fuel and or continious use and it sucks to find out its not up to the task the hard way. If it dosnt say and the manufacturer dont say than assume it dosnt. Or atleast let someone else be the guine pig to find out ):h

My truck ran with a dual non flow through pump set up that wasnt pumping......not very well and not vary fast.....but you could probably limp it along.......
Kennedy;1565537; said:
Personal experience and the experience of others. Eric (Dmaxallitech) had this pump on and Xmas eve a couple of years back it went down. He had to call Mrs to bail him out IIRC.

When dealing with the fuel system, you can build adequate (or what you THINK is adequate) or you can do it all and be done with it. Adequate may get you by in most situations, but doing all that you can removes any question when the going gets tough...
That makes sense. But if your ~400 rwhp wouldn't this be a suitable upgrade? I'm not going for 650 rwhp or I'd get one of your kits.

What kind of power was Eric making when he had the pump and how long did it run?
avis;1565554; said:
Give the Superdiesel pump a try. I'm running his set up with my LBZ and it holds 22000 with my PPE Hot+2 on level 6. It's a pump,filter,mounting bracket,cab switch and boost switch for a touch over $300. Seems to be working great and holding enough fuel. Everything comes in the kit as well. Give Mike a call at Superdiesel.
This one? https://ssl.perfora.net/www.superdi...nid=1545c2741ec0c85/shopdata/index.shopscript

Does anyone know how many gallons per hour this one will put out? Or how long they last? I'm not looing for 650 rwhp, for now and probably not on this truck, but i would like 500.
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Linky no worky so here it is



Duramax on-demand lift pump kit. The truck runs the fuel through the bypass for normal running and then the HP fuel pump kicks on at approx 14-16 psi for achieving desired fuel rail pressure with large power programs where the fuel in needed. Don't get caught starving the engine for fuel.
Our price: $ 320.42

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turBeau;1565563; said:
That makes sense. But if your ~400 rwhp wouldn't this be a suitable upgrade? I'm not going for 650 rwhp or I'd get one of your kits.

What kind of power was Eric making when he had the pump and how long did it run?
It's not so much about how big a pump you run, it's about building a reliable, failsafe system that can provide well more than needed under normal circumstances so that if irregular circumstances arise you (hopefully) still have enough. Also keep in mind that we also offer the pumps separately which is what you get from the parts store stuff.
turBeau;1565518; said:
Could you give some valid reasons why it wouldn't last other than saying it won't?
Take John's word on this as he used to sell these to install into the Duramax. If your not looking for big power take a look at our single kit design. It comes with everything you need and if later you decide to up the power you can add the second pump to make it into a dual kit.

http://www.ttspowersystems.com/GM_Diesel_Fuel.html
Nobody cares but me I guess. Since the TTS and Kennedy setups have the same pump, (according to a previous post), what is the flow on a single pump--gph at what pressure, and the twin pump setups?
Curious minds want to know.
Wags
I believe its something like 3-5 psi per pump, not sure on gph...
I don't exactly know how to read the chart, but from what I can tell the TTS/Kennedy pumps have a max flow of 1400 l/h or approx. 370 g/h.
I think thats with no restriction. How many PSI you have is just a measure of restriction. With any pump once you take it out of free flow the and the PSI goes up the GPH or how ever flow is measure goes down.

Dont know the answer to the question though on #'s
My single Kennedy pump on relatively new OEM and 15,000 miles on a Mega filter I see 4.7 psi at the test port.
turBeau;1565518; said:
Could you give some valid reasons why it wouldn't last other than saying it won't?
I had one of these pumps. It didn't last and became noisy with minimal miles on it. It's also not a free flow design in the event of failure. Been running the Kennedy pump for a couple of years or better. No problems and you can't even hear it running with the truck shut down. It also has a free flow bore that's larger than the fuel line itself. By design I'm convinced it will outlast your truck.
Hey guys thanks for the replies I’m going to replace the whole filter head this week and see if it fixes the trouble I’m having and if I can convince my wife I will be getting a lift pump as well just haven’t made up my mind on witch one yet. I’m just hoping I don’t have to replace the injectors to fix my trouble. It’s not under warranty any more I have to pay for every thing and paying a dealer 70 dollars an hour or what ever the rate is not an option I would rather put the cash towards new upgraded parts. I have had a few people say to put a lift pump in and the real trouble will show its self. Any one have any suggestions on a good fuel pressure tester.
how about the edelbrock 1792? It flows plenty of fuel, is a flow thru design and is only $190. McRat really seems to like this pump also, im not sure if he runs it, but he always mentions it. http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_10001_10002_752943_-1_10307
I'm leaning toward the kennedy wiring harness...sweet, well thought out setup. I think this is the main attraction.
Pump question is...why spend 190 on an edelbrock..isn't a kennedy single the same price? I could see it if the edelbrock was 100 or so.
The edelbrock IS a flow through design?
Wags

John,
BTW, when will the wiring harnesses be back in stock?
How do yo tap into a power source? Do you tap into the fuse block underhood? Do you go directly to the battery with an inline fuse?
Please do tell.
racinmike77;1568711; said:
how about the edelbrock 1792? It flows plenty of fuel, is a flow thru design and is only $190
Thats what I said dont try to make me look wrong, even if this pump breaks fuel will still flow through it and your truck will run at stock fuel pressure. Also this single pump flows plenty, 160gph is plenty of fuel. If this is not enough run dual edelbrocks and you will still save $400. Before you flame get the facts.
"Witch lift pump"

If I were looking for the best Witch I would go with the WICKED WITCH OF THE WEST. If I were wondering WHICH pump to use I would say FASS.

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Another one of my dumb questions...............by why would the extra filter be needed when the truck already has a fuel filter ????


What is the general consensus for what's needed to supply 400-450 hp ? Would a single with no additional filter be fine ??
Fass 95 has filter, just extra insurance running 2 filters
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