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Just like promised, here are the dyno results for the Banks Six-Gun with out Speed Loader and Edge Products Juice w/Attitude. The results are from the same truck, on the same day, without ever taking it off the dyno. This is purely for informational purposes, we make no claims to refut or agree with any manufacturers’ posted results. These are independent results from our Mustang 1750 Dyno on that day with that specific vehicle. They are two different units with different claims, check out the links below to see the results.


http://xtremediesel.com/sixgun_duramax2.htm


http://xtremediesel.com/edge_juice_duramax2.htm
 

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Why different rpm's on the levels 1-5?
 

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Was it the "HOT ATTITUDE" (145HP) ????
 

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this should humble a few egos........looks like the 90hp Juice spanked it as said.....most bang for the buck.....JUICE WITH ATTITUDE


....and for those with a large enough sac...get the HOTT


how's that saying go......'nuff said.
 

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Using a comparison of Edge lvl 3 to Banks lvl 4 (which should be close to apples to apples), the Edge seems to come on a little sooner in the torque curve. Its over 600 before 2000 Rpm which is about where my truck lives most of the time 2000 to 2100. I would still like to see some EGT numbers though because the numbers are only part of the equation. Dyno numbers are great, but it doesn't necessarily provide a real life scenario.


The next step is to take the truck to a decent grade hill a minimum of a 1/2 mile and from a dead stop pull the same trailer grossing out a approximately 17,000 lbs (gcvw) to the top. Pick even settings and then get et's to the top, max egt's achieved (unless you have to get out of it), and top speed at the top.



I do applaud the dyno testing though, you have to start somewhere and this does provide an apples to apples comparison in a repeatable environment.


Good info - Hat's off to the testors!
 

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Six gun level 1 Juice level 0
HP 263.9 @ 3250 HP 284.8 @ 3250
Torque 461.6 @ 2750 Torque 486.5 @ 3000


Six-Gun Level 2 Juice w/Attitude Level 1
HP 309.9 @ 3250 HP 299.3 @ 3000
Torque 542.8 @ 2750 Torque 597.5 @ 2250


Six-Gun Level 3 Juice w/Attitude Level 2
HP 317.8 @ 3250 HP 307.2 @ 3000
Torque 565.2 @ 2250 Torque 640.6 @ 2250


Six-Gun Level 4 Juice w/Attitude Level 3
HP 325.1 @ 3250 HP 329.1 @ 2750
Torque 627.2 @ 2250 Torque 688.9 @ 2250


Six-Gun Level 5 Juice w/Attitude Level 4
HP 327.7 @ 3250 HP 358.4 @ 3000
Torque 660.2 @ 2250 Torque 723.0 @ 2250



Six-Gun Level 6 Juice w/Attitude Level 5
HP 340.3 @ 3250 HP 371.9 @ 3000
Torque 704.7 @ 2250 Torque 738.2 @ 2250

Juice = Total increase of 132.9 HP and 285.4 ft/lb of Torque over stock.
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Banks = Total increase of 101.3 HP and 259.1 ft/lb of Torque over stock.



so guys what happened to the torque? must have gotten lost in the advertising Edited by: Diesel Power
 

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When did the juice come out with 6 power settings? Something don`t look right.


Level 0 puts out 45.8 HP Then there is 5 more levels.
 

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0 has timing only
 

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sdaver said:
0 has timing only

So it does have 6 settings! I wonder why they do not advertise it as such?
 

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Looking at the torque curves, it looks as if the Juice is over 600 ft. lb. for nearly twice as long as the 6-gun.


I am interested in the 6-gun, and will hold out until I see several different dyno charts from different trucks and operators.
 

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Looks like the Juice spanks the Six-Gun for low end torque.. Thanks a bunch for the comparison. I came real close to buying a Six-Gun yesterday, I'm glad I didn't now.


Juice/Attitude here I come!
 

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Thanks for that side by side comparo, Sdaver, very easy to see how the 2 stack up level by level.


If one were to remove the names from the labels and just look at the dyno charts and choose a unit based on what type of hp or torque curves they wanted, that would be great. For the most part, that is what I do.


I don't care if it says "Hello Kitty" on the label (well maybe a little



), if it seems like more bang for the buck, or produces more torque at a lower rpm, and is a quality unit that the mfr stands behind, then I'll probably buy it.


I always thought "Juice" and "Attitude" were kinda goofy names, but they didn't ask me... you should see the names they assign to some of these radar and ESM systems!
 

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that looks better than any diesel!!!!!
 

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I am considering both of these units. Trying to gather as much information as possible. I don't want to hurt my tranny (stock) so I am not considering Hot Juice or the Speed Loader. Is the difference in torque due to the safegaurds that the Six Gun has in the software to prevent clutch shift?


What is involved with the install on the Six Gun?
 

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You guys are all a bunch of Edge cheerleading sluts .... That's all I got to say ...


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