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Have not seen any comments on the Predator. They good or bad or are they in the same bracket as the PUP-QUAD-XCELATOR


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Since the bugs, I had, have been worked out I've been happy with mine. I did notice the other day that the "grade braking" isn't working. Not sure if the Predator is the cause or not. Anyone else notice this?
 

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For what it's worht I noticed that my compression braking is much reduced with the Edge Juice/Attitude, too. Must be the timing.
 

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HUH ??






Grade braking is a Allison feature activated in Tow Haul mode ....





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Camstyn said:
For what it's worht I noticed that my compression braking is much reduced with the Edge Juice/Attitude, too. Must be the timing.

Ditto on that. I have several customers who tow a lot and complained of the same thing. They also claim the allison doesn't downshift as soon. I noticed this a bit my self but I haven't towed much without the juice.
 

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Mackin said:
HUH ??






Grade braking is a Allison feature activated in Tow Haul mode ....





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I agree that it is an Allison feature but, isn't it "always on"? Tow Haul or not?
 

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Mackin said:
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Grade braking is a Allison feature activated in Tow Haul mode ....


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Downshifting with a standard tranny does the same thing. Possibly to a greater extent since the clutch is either engaged or disengaged, no slipping like a torque converter. I noticed that with each level higher, downshifting is less and less effective for slowing the truck down.
 

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Are we talking about two different things here?


1. Grade breaking feature when tow haul is selected.


2. General loss of engine back pressure due to recalibrated PCM.
 

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Grade braking works in both mods .... It is most definately noticable in T/H ...


#2 You got me there ,have no clue what your refferancing ...



I have no idea how a program will effect TCM grade braking feature ... If anything a reset of memory may help ...Maybe someone can elaborate what they were told ....


My paticular Grade Braking in T/H works exceptionally well sometimes I find it a nusiance it works so well ...


Just a quick tap of the brakes is all it takes to engage ...





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One of the above post was refering to diminished grade breaking with a manual transmission. Obviously there in no " tow haul" mode involved.


Lets say you have a manual or Allison that is not locked in tow haul. You pull the shift lever down one gear or manually down shift one gear. Would the amount of resistance " back pressure" be any less when running a downloader or module?
 

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Dam guys I just ask about a Predator. Guess Ill go to Oil Burners maybe someone over there has/is running one.


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I also was interested in info about the predator, I guess this thread has been Place Slapped.
 

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The Predator just isn't that popu;ar do to the fact once purchased ,you own it .... It marries your vin ..


Rumor has it that Diablo will erase but for a fee ...


FWIW as a cheap tune with diagnose capibilites with real time data reading it isn't bad .... If they could only read and erase TCM codes it would be the bomb really ...





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Mack


who is working on the T.C.M. tunner


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Geno, BD power is releasing some kind of box that works in conjunction with the TCM. It will allow you to adjust shift points, remove speed limiter and a few other features. All for one rock bottom price of $500.
 

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Thanks Max


Probably better to ad a few more $ and go with the TransGo Huh


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The BD power box will not replace the transgo in any way. If your looking for an electronic substitute for the transgo your only option would be ATS' co-pilot.

The BD box doesn't add any holding power at all as far as I know.Edited by: Max Power
 

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Geno, I have had my Predator for almost a year now and I like it. I have pretty much always been happy with it. It did start acting up with the freezing deal with 01 trucks, but I was sent several custom tunes that eliminated the problem. The problem was with the 1.04 version and earlier tuners. I dont know what they are at now though, 1.10 or higher I think. I like having it just for diagnostics and codes and for checking balance rates. For the price ya cant beat it really.
 

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Max Power said:
The BD power box will not replace the transgo in any way. If your looking for an electronic substitute for the transgo your only option would be ATS' co-pilot.

The BD box doesn't add any holding power at all as far as I know.

What I am really lookin for is a cure for the defueling prob.


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