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Who does oil analysis regularly? Do you find it worth the cost? Is the information received important to how you maintain your truck?
 

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mossyoak;1585518; said:
Who does oil analysis regularly? Do you find it worth the cost? Is the information received important to how you maintain your truck?
I just started--got my first report back from Schaeffer.I think it's well worth the cost{$6},and might prove out to save an engine some day. Very cheap insurance and peace of mind.I'm doing it in my Dmax because I want to safely extend my drain intervals; this first time{5Kmiles},the lab tech. advised me to change now because the copper limit was on the fence, so in the interest of safety,that's what she advised.She blamed it on still having minute traces of break-in material floating around{11K miles}
 

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Very much worth the cost.. monitoring the wear numbers and keeping tabs on the oil properties helps you determine three things: potential mechanical issues, when the oil is used up, and whether or not your oil is doing what you want it to do.. combustion temps do bad things to additive packages, and since any oil blend can be called synthetic nowadays, you just never know unless you are measuring and testing..

Using analysis, you aren't relying on an oil company's marketing hype, or the usual "i've run it for years and have had no problems" statements that don't tell you anything useful. Just because the truck hasn't exploded yet doesn't mean all is well.

I also recommend periodically analyzing your fuel.. It helps to see what you are really buying at the pump, and it's also a great way to see if someones miracle additive helps or degrades cetane, affects the distillation curve, or is nothing more than an anti - gel disguised as an all purpose cure all. (lots of those out there).

Some labs you can use are Staveley, Blackstone, and Titan.

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If you have a Cat dealership by you--they also have a lab---you don't need to be running Cat iron as anyone is welcome.They also have a real neat suction pump to draw a oil sample out of the dipstick tube.
 

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If you have a Cat dealership by you--they also have a lab---you don't need to be running Cat iron as anyone is welcome.They also have a real neat suction pump to draw a oil sample out of the dipstick tube.
That's cool. Do they do the analysis on the spot, or do you have to wait a few days to get it?
 

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mossyoak;1585518; said:
Who does oil analysis regularly? Do you find it worth the cost? Is the information received important to how you maintain your truck?
What are the oil analysis services most people use?
 

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mossyoak;1586388; said:
That's cool. Do they do the analysis on the spot, or do you have to wait a few days to get it?
They send it out to their own lab.Cat has probably the most sophisticated lab going to service mostly all the fluids from their iron.It takes about 5-7 days for the results as long as everything is OK.If they notice something dangerously wrong,they'll call you ASAP.
 

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do all cat dealers have the service? how much do they charge?
 

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TOTHEMAX!;1586973; said:
do all cat dealers have the service? how much do they charge?
Yes--Ithink it's $8 per sample bottle.
 

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Cat dealers sent it out to a lab. I use either Wear Check or Petroleum technologies. Depends on if I'm paying or the customers paying.
 

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I found my injector failure before the crankcase was full of fuel because of the oil analysis. Best $12 (local CAT dealer) I have spent on the truck.
 

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How to get a clean sample

I was just checking through the post looking for some info on how to get a clean sample. It looks like the best way is to suck on a tube stuck down the dip tube. Any better solutions?
 

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Glad to see im not as anal as everyone tells me. I ersonally sample the oil every 5000 miles. W/the price of oil the way it is if I can safely extend my drains a couple thousand miles, then its worth the 6 buck to me. Also, it lets me keep an eye on the engine wich is worth a lot more then the 6 bucks.
 

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I'm not doing this to extend ...

I'm not doing this to extend the life of the oil. I usually do oil changes at about 8000 km instead of the 10,000 but i would run it right to 10,000 if that was the way it worked out. I am doing the oil analysis just to set a base line for future tests. I am planning on having the oil tested ever second oil change.
 

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I was just checking through the post looking for some info on how to get a clean sample. It looks like the best way is to suck on a tube stuck down the dip tube. Any better solutions?
I only analyze my drain oil. I always run the engine up to temperature before draining. I let the stream run for a minute, flush the bottle out a couple of times and then capture. "First flush" out of the pan is bad for high concentration of contaminants, up to temperature and mixed up is best.
 

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I've only done one oil change

I've only done one oil change does the oil come out slow enough to capture a couple of samples? That reminds me of something else i have to make. The skid plate is a little too long and the oil drains onto it. I was going to make a little piece to clip onto the skid plate and redirect the oil.

That's a good job for spring break.
 

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BigBadAllis;1588838; said:
Cat dealers sent it out to a lab. I use either Wear Check or Petroleum technologies. Depends on if I'm paying or the customers paying.
After looking at this maybe I'm missing something but I don't see where I 'click here' to order the kit. Maybe my expectations are off but I was thinking you would pay for the kit on the front end and they provide test results when you're done....or do you guys do everything local?

Wear Check

http://www.wearcheck.com/
NOTE: After a little looking around on their site I think I found the kit here that you would order however could you verify?

Petroleum Technologies

http://www.oil-lab.com/
 
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