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Racor part number RK32313, available after 1/04/2004 from Racor distributors. It will include R60 filter, heater, water separator that will hook into existing electronics, bracket, all hoses and connectors. It will be frame mounted pre OEM. The retail price is $410. GM dealers may carry the kit at some time next year.


Steve


Included:

- 660R1210 filter (660 filter with 12 volt heater and 10 micron Aquabloc
media)
- Bracket
- Heater, relay, & harness
- Water probe with built-in electronics & harness with connections to the
existing water-in fuel warning system.
- Custom hose connection hardware for breaking into existing hard lines


Hope this clears up what's in the kit.
Edited by: fishdmax
 

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so all I need to do is add a WIF and downgrade to a 10mic filter and you all will be happy? I can do that... Hmmm 410.00? I will do it for 390.00!!
 

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I think the idea is that you should be doing incremental filtering starting with a coarser filter first and then going to a finer filter. The coarser filter PRE filters the fuel and , doesn't clog up as fast if you were using a finer PRE filter. It then also lets the main filter do a better job since it is see fuel that is already filtered.
 

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Problem is that according to George that the 5 to 10 micron range is the most harmful. Sure a second 10 mic may take off stress off the OEM, but I want finer filtered fuel, not two of the same things.


Once my strap project is underway, I'm moving my Cat from the airbox to either a higher locale in the engine, or pre-oem along the frame rail. I went to the larger Cat at my last filter change and I'm getting prime loss every 3-4 days again. Fed up with it, so it's either a different locale with maybe better luck or pre and I'd rather run my Cat at 2 mic vs another Racor at 10 mic. Plus $400+ is alittle too much for that setup IMHO
 

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The OEM filter is not rated at 10mm, it is rated at2 but doesn't do a good job. Pre Filtering at 10 should make it work better. I'm not trusting it either way, just giving you what I think is their logic.





I'll stick with my MEGA in the post position.
 

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I believe "racor" posted on tdp a couple months back, that a person should be able to replace the 10 micron filter with a 2 micron filter. Then you would have fine filtered fuel, and the benefits of the water in fuel sensor and the heater option, which both interface with existing electronics.


I am hoping these can be picked up for 300 to 350, because I have found some racor dealers that sell for considerably less than msrp.


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I can produce the same thing for around 325.00, maybe less. With a 2 micron filter and a 90 series filter instead, which is bigger... all ready to install...
 

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I thought there was suppose to be a built in pump with this integrated design. I agree, that price is exorbitant. There are better choices out there!
 

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Installed a Cat 1R0750 2 micron post OEM on a Permacool base for under $80 for parts & 1hr my labor.
 

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If I hear what everyone is saying, Racor better get more competitive if this is the long-awaited and highly touted new product.
 

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the truth is that there isn't anything super about it. basically all filter kits give you similar things.. they just bundle some of their products together and throw in a bracket and some markup. i'm still surprised they put it there since you have to cut the steel lines..
 

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Ok, now I'm confused
. What micron rating is the OEM filter, which (if I understand correctly) is made by Racor, as is all other replacement filters for the OEM location of the Dmax ?
 

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How about this idea...Why do we after spending $7000 for a diesel engine option should have to worry about pre and post filtration! Our truck should of had the BEST filter for the application. I am always wanting to add bigger and better to my truck but something GM is proud of like the DuraMax they should have takin care of that for us. Not put us in a position to spend another $200-$400 bucks to make the fuel system safer.
 

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The Racor Corporation supplemental fuel filter kit offers a few things that the others do not.


First, it has the blessings of GM/DMAX_Ltd, at least that is what Racor (forum name on TDP) indicated. He worked for Racor in a project manager capacity and I asked him that question directly. So for those of you who are worried about your vehicle warranty being voided by adding supplemental filtering, this kit is for you. (There seemed to be a lot of concern about this around here,,,, remember the topic that went on for a long period of time debating this?)


Second, it incorporates a WIF sensor which the others do not have. The WIF along with the heater are incorporated into the truck electronics as Fishdmax notes above. As the sophistication of these kits increase, so does the price.


So if the above items are important for you, then maybe this is your supplemental fuel filter kit. If the above are not a priority, then you can find some excellent kits from Nicktane, Lubespecialist, Kennedy or do-it-yourself for about $150 or so less in price.





Some notes: All Racor series 400/600 filters are interchangeable. So you can put any one of three size filters (R45, R60 and R90) on the filter head. Likewise, you can use the three different filter media (2, 10 and 30 um). While the list price is $410, you can generally get the Racor filters for at least a 20% discount.Edited by: OC_DMAX
 

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FirstDiesel,


My concern with the post oem is still the warranty issue. My service manager says he was told pre was ok post was not (mess with the fuel going directly into the motor at your own risk was his point). The tests that George ran indicated a cleaner fuel from the Racor,etc, 2 mic. filters than from the oem. For me the worst case is my 2 mic. pre oem is my primary filter. The best is that it works better and doesn't create any warranty risk.


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Victory Red,


I had my CAT 2um filter mounted on the AC bracket but was concerned about the vibration and moved it under the AirBox. Had Air problems every 4-8 days. I thought I could live with the priming it occassionally until it caused my bride to be stranded a few times (ouch that hurt, quit hitting me!!) Moved it back to the AC bracket. Same hoses, same clamps, same everything except the position. No more air issues.



Easy to get to, easy to monitor, clean rig-up, and easy to show off. No more removing the headlight and opening the vent, and no more priming except when the filters are replaced. BTW, mine is post OEM.
Best of all, I can send my wife off with the horses and not worry about getting a call from some trail head about the [email protected]#@#!! truck won't start.



I recommend moving it if air is an issue. There has been enough conversations, threads, and flame throwing on the subject to choke us all, but I have yet to read about air problems from those of us that have their filters mounted "high". For what its worth.


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OC_DMAX said:
The Racor Corporation supplemental fuel filter kit offers a few things that the others do not.


First, it has the blessings of GM/DMAX_Ltd, at least that is what Racor (forum name on TDP) indicated. He worked for Racor in a project manager capacity and I asked him that question directly. So for those of you who are worried about your vehicle warranty being voided by adding supplemental filtering, this kit is for you. (There seemed to be a lot of concern about this around here,,,, remember the topic that went on for a long period of time debating this?)


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Does anyone know if this filter system will ONLY carry GM's blessing (no warranty voidy) if installed by a GM dealer, or will they let you self install it?


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My Service Manager says that any thing that YOU install, YOU own. Any maintance or other problems with that item are yours,PERIOD.


So, if you install your filter & later have problems due to an air leak that they find, you pay the bill.
 

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Chipper - would you please provide information on part number and place of purchase of the Perma Cool filter head?


Texmax


Thanks
 
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