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LBZ High Idle Install with Pics

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Here is what is need to do for the "Manual High Idle" function to work on the '06 and '07 LBZ engines

Location of the ECM
- the ECM is just below and under the upper radiator hose in the pictures



You have to remove the lower electrical connector first. There is a lever tab on the bottom of the connector that must be pulled up and towrads the fire wall. This will move almost 160* and you can now remove the lower connector.
- Could not any good pictures of this. You can barely see the lever tab in the out position about 90* in the middle of the picture.


The upper electrical connector can now be remove. There is a lever tab on the top of the connector that has to be pushed down and towards the fire wall. This will move just about 180* and you can now remove the upper connector.

My fingers are on the lever tab.

The surrounding wire looms will have to be moved out of the way to be able to get the lower and upper connectors out of their sockets.

Move the two ECM electrical connectors out from under the upper radiator hose to over the power steering pump/resevior.


Now it is easy to see that the Lower Electrical connector is smaller that the Upper Electrical connector.

The larger Upper Electrical connector is the "C1" connector. This is the connector we will be working with.
The smaller Lower Electrical connector is "C2" and can be pushed back out of the way.

Using the information from the GMUPFITTER web site, locate the correct page showing the C1 connector for the '06 vehicles.


Here I have high lighted in pink the #8 and #60 pin location. Remember that this is looking at the face of the connector. Not the back side where the wires go in.


To access the back side of the conector, the cover has to be removed. Using a small flat blade screw driver CAREFULLY slide the screw driver under the end, between the cover and the body first. Then move to one side and insert the screw driver in the slot just to the side of the left and right clip and pry up. Repeat for the other side.




You should now see all the wires under the cover.


Remove the zip tie at the end of the connector. BE CAREFULL not to cut any of the wires while doing this.


Now to find the pin hole locations.

The #8 hole is located in the top row of the top section with the wires going out to the right side of the connector.
#8 is the empty hole between a PURPLE WIRE and a BROWN WIRE.


The #60 hole is located in the top row of the bottom section with the wirs going out to the right side of the connector.
#60 is the left side empty hole in between a GRAY WIRE #61 and a LIGHT GREEN WIRE #58
There is 2 empty holes here, the hole directly next to the GRAY WIRE is the one needed.

Picture is fuzzy, but you can still see the holes and wires.

The PINK BAR at the end of the connector needs to be removed to allow the new ECM pins to be installed correctly.


To remove the bar, a small flat blade screw driver is needed to be inserted into the groove at the center of the connector body to GENTLY pry up thePINK BAR.


Now the new ECM pins can be installed in the previously located #8 and #60 holes.

I soldered my pins to stiffen them for easier install and to ensure a good connection, if the crimps dont look good.

Using a 1/16" Drift Pin Punch, insert the pins into the hole and press firmly until the pin is fully seated in the connector body.
- Sorry didn't get any pictures of this part.

For my install, the BLUE WIRE is in the #8 hole and the ORANGE WIRE is in the #60 hole.




Install a new zip tie at the end of the connector body, making sure that the zip tie is under the angle clip, to keep it from moving off the body.



Reinstall the connector cover/locking lever tab.


Cut the wires even, strip the ends log enough for a uninsulated butt crimp connector.



Using a piece of #16 AWG copper wire, slide a section of heat shrink tubing over the wire and strip the end long enough to fit into the butt connector.




You can soldered this connction at this point if you want to.

Slide the heat shrink tubing over the butt connector, making sure that the butt connector is cose to the ceter of the tubing section and using a small torch heat the tubing to shrink it into place and cover the connection. DO NOT BURN OR MELT THE WIRE!!


Run the now connected #16 AWG wire in a nearby piece of corrigated split loom up towards the firewall.



Reinstall the ECM Electrical connectors back onto the ECM.
The larger Upper Connector must be installe first, then the Lower connector can be installed.

Using a small section of Corigated Split Loom, cover/protect the new wire from the ECM to the other section of split loom you ran the wire in to get to the firewall.

Secure the loom and wire with zip ties. You can see the untrimmed zip ties in the photo.

Where I ran my wire thru the fireall using a existing hole.



YOU HAVE NOW COMPLETED THE UNDERHOOD PORTION OF THIS INSTALL.

LETS MOVE TO THE CAB INSTALL SECTION.

Locate the drivers side fuse block and find a "Keyed on" fuse.
I used the 10 AMP "TCB ACCY" fuse.

Using a Auto Tap Fuse Adder for my EGT and Boost Guage install, I left a tap in point for future use, knowing that I would be doing this Mod.




Remove the Dash Trim



Choose a suitable location for your new switch.

I chose the empty/blank space to the left of the Passenger Air Bar On/Off Key Switch.


For my switch I used a small round rocker style with a red LED




To remove the Air Bag switch assembly, GENTLY PULL on the top corners of the large blank space above the Key Switch. You will feel a small pop. Now GENTLY PULL on the bottom corners os the assemebly.

To remove the small blank space section, use a small flat blade screw driver under the clip and GENTLY PRY UP. The piece will come out with a GENTLE FIRM PULL once the clip is released.


Usig a UNIBIT I drilled a 15/16" hole for the switch, the instructions on the switch package.


After drilling the hole, clean out the "Structual" ribs on the back side of the piece.



Switch installed in blank piece.



Guesstimate the amount of wire needed to get from the fuse block to your new switch location.

Run the new "feed" ( from fuse ) wire and the new "load" ( from ECM ) wire inside a piece of corrigated split loom under the dash to the switch location.







Use zip ties to secure the split loom along the route taken, you can see the untrimmed ends in the pictures.

Using a round male crimp on the end of the "feed" wire, connect to the fuse tap.



Find a suitable location for the ground wire to connect to. I used the "Structual" Dash Bar for my location.

Using a #10 SELF DRILLING SCREW with a 5/16" HEX DRIVE HEAD, I fed the Ring Terminal Crimp onto the screw and installed.



Secure all 3 wires together witha zip tie.

Cut the ends of the wires even with each other.


Feed the wires thru the "Keyed Switch Assembly" and reinstall the assembly back onto the dash.


Install 1/4" FEMAL SPADE CRIMP CONNECTORS on the ends of the wires.


Knowing which way the wires need to go onto the switch, install the Femal Spades onto the switch.



Install the Blank space with the switch and wires now installed back into the "Keyed Switch" assembly.


Reinstall "Dash Trim"


Go back check all electrical connectors and connections, to make sure every one is secure.

Start vehicle and check guages and idle speed.

Idle speed should be around 650-700 RPM.


Turn switch "ON"


Idle should now be 800 RPM


Push the "SET CRUISE" button, Idle should now be 1200-1300 RPM


Push the "ACCEL CRUISE" button, Idle should now be 1700-1800 RPM


Apply the BRAKE PEDAL at any time and the RPM should drop to 650-700 RPM.
Turn the HIGH IDLE SWITCH "OFF" and Idle should drop to 650-700 RPM


Now you can enjoy a warm or cool truck any time of the year and at any outside air intake temperature.

LtEng5

The attached pics follow in order of the instructions. I couldnt get them to install in the text correctly. Hopefully a MOD can insert them where they need to go.
 

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#34 ·
no. leave the auto high idle in "on" as when you first start in the morning it will come up to 1000 rpm with out you being in the truck to flip the switch. every thing will still work the same way.
 
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#36 ·
Use a 3/32 drill stick it in and use a pair of vise grips on it and twist two or three times works perfect
 
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#37 ·
Awsome write up LtEng5! thanks for all the attention to detail.

I'm adding this to the todo "List" tonight.

Thanks to Andrew too for the pin insight.
 
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#38 ·
your welcome and thanks !!
 
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#41 ·
i did min last week and works with my dsp5 OS
 
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#43 ·
Great mod, should have this from the factory!
 
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#44 ·
Need HELP WITH LBZ High Idle Install

I just got done, updating my operation system to a DSP 5 system, I also installed myself the manual high idle switch. The DSP 5 is working great, switches volt and tuners. BUT the high idle does not work at all. I replace the pins on the ECM twice now. I installed them in pins 8 and 60. They both have 12 volts going to them at the same time, I checked that before I reinstalled the ECM connector. Can anyone point or help me out???????

THanks
 
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#45 ·
did you have the High idle installed and working before the DSP5....??

you are sure you are in the correct pin holes...

I have seen bad switches that show power with no load, but as soon as a load is put on the switch can't hold power to the load.......might try swapping out the switch for different one...
 
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#46 ·
HELP WITH LBZ High Idle Install

I do not know if it worked before DSP 5, I installed both at the same time. I installed the pins in 8, and 60 per the directions. I did it twice. I also had to replace the pins twice, the first time they did not go in all the way. The second time I checked for power at both. I also relaced the switch already.

I might try reistalled my stock tuner and see what the does.????
 
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#48 ·
Went to the stealership today and the parts man at the front said that there are so many pins ... blah, blah, blah ... I asked if I could talk to one of the service techs. He said, they don't have time to search.

So ... now I have searched ... I don't really understand anything about "pins" and I am looking at the OP and it is a great write up. Thank you! Call me stupid, but I am still not sure what a pin is, what it looks like, and if I can simply install a 22 gauge wire into the slot and go from there. However, with all that said, I noticed several questions in regards to this particular switch and what part numbers are correct for these pins. I did a search on here and this is what I come up with: http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=379959&highlight=LBZ+pins

Tray #19
PIN # 1928498135
Tray Slot #23

Hope this helps those who are asking for the part number. Again, this is a great write up and I will be doing this mod today, hopefully. Will be going to the dealership and asking for these.
 
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#49 ·
Went to two dealerships yesterday after the first dismissed me and I found the post in regards to the trays and pin #. I took this information with me to the dealerships and one was quite helpful, they looked and found that this pin has been "discontinued." After searching, they also found that the pin # changed as well, but none in stock. I wonder what would happen if my connectors melted? Where would they get the pins that are needed? Stupid question, but just the same. I will try to order some from ANDREW2500, if he has any left.
 
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#51 ·
I believe so...not so sure though. That is the way tht I am doing it but you may be able to put 12 volts to the pins and make them work, just so long as they are fused with 10 amp. Maybe you could ask LtEng5 on pm and see what he says and tell us.
 
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#55 ·
once you have put power the the 8 and 60 pins the engine revs up to 850 rpm from the idle of 650 rpm. GM calls this the "stand by rpm" for the PTO option; which we are essentially taping into. with the power applied and the engine at rpm the ECM now monitors the the engine for any load that will bring the rpm down and then automatically raises the rpm to the 1200 rpm point to power the load. once the load goes away the engine automatically drops back down to the stand by rpm of 850.
 
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#58 ·
Can you guys tell me what is the beniftt of doing this mod. I already have the high idle on my LBZ and it works just fine.
 
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#59 ·
Certainly can tell you! This is a MANUAL switch that allows you to activate 3 different RPM levels; (of course you have normal idle at 650 RPM) with just the switch activated (on) raises RPM to 800; push cruise control SET on blinker stalk raises to 1200 RPM; push RESUME/+ Speed button raises to 1750 RPM.

One thing that I do appreciate about this switch is faster warm up and cool down. Also, in the summer it will help keep the truck cooler at the 800 RPM level with the A/C on when you are sitting idle.

The initial setting will activate at any time with the truck in park or neutral and foot off of the brake. Application of foot brake will return the engine to 650 RPM even with the switch on.

Personally, I do not see myself using the highest setting at all.

I am in the process of making a video of this mod. I contacted LtEng5, as the original poster and asked his permission to use his directions in the video. I will be posting this up hopefully today through YouTube.
 
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#61 ·
Nice job on the videos dordtrecht5. Very helpful. I made the mistake of getting the round pins for the lly. Mine no worky. Tryin' to get the right pins today at the dealer.
 
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#62 ·
I was mailed the round pins from Andrew2500. I didn't use them because I got the very same type from the salvage yard and they didn't work. I am not going to say that Andrew2500's don't work, I didn't even try them. However, I did finally get some from the dealer ... got two for $5. Be sure you give them the tray# along with the pin# and it isn't too hard for them ... IF you get a dealer that is not afraid of helping. With that said, Andrew2500 said that he is sure that they will work for the LBZ ... if you want the ones I bought from him I can mail them out to you.

Thanks for the compliments on the video ... I hope it helps. Also, hope it isn't to condescending to anyone that I talked too much ... just wanted to be clear on how to go about it.:D
 
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#63 ·
anyone know the install specs for my '05???
 
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I've been to 3 gm dealers in the area. 2 didn't even have those bins any more. the 3rd had the tray but the slot was empty. Guess it's a whole thing for the dealer to place an order with Kent-Moore. The part number is #1928498135 in tray #19 slot ?#23. Did you use the same part # dordtrecht5?
 
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Yes, I did use those numbers. The problem is with this PIN# is that it has been discontinued as per the service department of one of the dealers that I went to ... and has been given another part # ... which is epidemic of GM. I got lucky by taking it to another dealer and they happened to have the correct PIN. PM sent.
 
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