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543.3hp with a edge 125/BDPP 155 stack at piers dynomania!





http://www.piersdiesel.com/Dyno2003.htm

 

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everything was dodge.... except 1 7.3 ford 1 sicksliter ford and 3 DMX's


not too shabby... now all i need is a tranny to hold it all!


i was 2/3 throttle in 4th just to be safe!

 

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you did this with a duramax or what........stock tranny would not begin to hold those numbers.........or it was a spike...........?

no spike... stock auto tranny.... i did it in 4th gear 2/3 throttle. Juice was starting to defuel beyond that hp level so i basically held it at 2/3 for a nice smooth dyno plot. here is some linkage for ya!


http://www.nwbombers.com/cgi-bin/forum/ikonboard.cgi?s=2e5ed736f347e35b70b3aed1e428c321;act=ST;f=21;t=4449





and on the tdr


http://www.tdr1.com/forums/showthread.php?s=443303ba063da893f686970c9382bea9&threadid=82829

 

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hey thats smokin.......the other 1/3 would put you around 822..........have you made a 1/8 or 1/4 mile pass will 5th hold............why would any one need a transmission if stock will hold 544?...........not to be so skeptical it just seems like a lot..........dave

If you want the number go to PDR and look at the figures. you can call it like you see it and allude i am lying, don't candy coat it .tell it like it is.


I NEVER said 5th gear would hold it in fact that is why i was careful in 4th. Instead of trying to malign me, go pee up a rope... 822...give me a break. Besides i have nothing to prove to you. The dyno run speaks for itself, and there were around 150 people there watching.


The only reason i am here is jess invited me to join in, and after talking to him i figured people on here would be less judgemental, as they are at NWBOMBERS..... so far this has not proven to be the case


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Actually, i was fighting a slight defuel during the run. if i do end up getting a tranny, i believe this combo will be good for around 570 hp


but at the rate egt's climb, a bigger turbo is also on the must do list!

 

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Bully Dog Power Programmer in 155hp flavour


looks the same as the quad module

 

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give me your fax#...my scanner is out for the moment (operator error)


the dyno is the new (australian made iIIRC) dyno dynamics.


sweet unit too.. you calibrate the zero-point to vehicle rpm.... NO TIRE SLIPPAGE AT ALL...... the test was done ASL with OAT of 27 centigrade and 18%RH

 

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That combo must be awesome.


Stock truck 240 to 260 rwhp


Edge 125


BDPP 155


Total 540 You got 544.


They must compliment each other well to get more gain than advertised out of both of them.

I would suppose so, although i am a far cry from a diesel expert here, the numbers speak for themselves. I will Fax a copy of the chart to Sdaver and he can post it if he sees fit.

 

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why is not jess trying this stack.......

sooon dave soon! i will be trying it out,jonothan glad you came over these guys will busts your balls for a bit but it will smooth out like i told you those are incredible numbers stick around it gets better....jess

Yeah, i'll stick around... just got off the phone with sdaver, and he set me straight

I'll be faxing him the sheet in the morning. There is also another member who has dynoed 3 events at the same time i did... so unless all 3 dynos are wrong, he was within 10 hp of his last numbers, so i will take this chart as correct. BTW...thanks for giving me the lesson on types of dyno's sdaver.... something to watch for!

 

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All the #'s really say is that their dyno try's to calculate fwhp or it is being operated improperly or that one of your power enhancers is way bigger than you think it is. Or they accidentally switched your #'s with another truck.

oh... yeah... RIIIIIIIGHT....thats how i did it... i just bolted my engine up to the dyno..... you are sooo smart.... maybe you just can't drive your own truck? Nahhhhh couldn't be that!

 

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I do not know if my old prototype hot oj is any stronger than the later version...maybe it is... i do not know.... as for the bully dog.... i do not know that either... what i do know is this: the dyno is accurate...it was being run by the qualified technician and was at sea level in pretty decent running conditions. You are entitled to your opinion, that is for sure, try to be graceful when someone else's combination betters yours. It is a trademark of the mature individual. I did have a complete service before i went on the dyno, clean fluids and filters. That can make a difference as well as the individual driving

 

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I didn't mean that you did something shady but something just doesn't add up. You don't get full advertised gain out of any stack because they overlap on what signals are changed. There are several other possible reasons for the faulty reading but I just mentioned a few. I wish you well in coming up with the most hp but what you have will not produce those numbers on a Mustang or Dynojet dyno. If it reads that high then I understand a lot more about the shop's dyno you were at.

I understand... really i do, i was expecting to see 430 or 450 RWHP.


since an unchanged truck at the last 3 dyno events we did together, he made no changes and was within a few hp .... on this dyno his numbers were within tolerance.... 5hp high.... that is it. He is my gauge as to whether or not the dyno is functioning or being run correctly. in essence he is my 'control' vehicle.


I do not like all this .....i had enough lumps on other forums but this is ridiculous. Getting more bashing on my brand of truck forum than what i do on sites where the membership is comprised 99.95% of dodges.... heck...even the dodge guys were impressed with the run. I guess i should just give up. I had higher hopes here than on the dieselpage is all. My mistake entirely.

 

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Hang in there. Certain members on this forum speak a little too much like experts. Some actually think they should be listened to as THE expert.





I know nothing about stacking boxes as I don't even own one yet but I do know that I've heard pissing matches from these guys amongst themselves because they all know more than the other one.





You know what you've done. Screw them if they don't believe you. Your new and you pissed on their parade.


If they don't beleive you offer a pull off and let them show up and put up or shut up. Remember it's real easy to be a big mouth on a forum while they're hiding behind the fact they don't even post a name or a location. Cyber bloody noses are easy things to give out.

Thanks FirstDiesel....i have just had a great chat with another member, and i will try to 'hold out' against launching into another tirade until another member can perform the same stack and reverify my numbers. i did not realize this is the highest number so far on straight #2 with a stack. i guess i just posted and landed straight into the lake of bullpoop. Honestly, i hope Jess can back up my numbers or better yet beat them by 25 hp or so!

 

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ha... i forgot... i have a cheapo logitec cam ...bad quality, but you'll get the idea

 

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I took my truck out tonight with FRESH tranny (again) and my seat tells me I'm 600 plus plus ......

No dissrespect ..
Juice in what gear did you dyno ?? At what point did the dyno load ??

Mac

Dynoed in 4th ..locked up... started the run at 2300 rpms and finished at 3100


dyno load???? what is that?

 

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I took my truck out tonight with FRESH tranny (again) and my seat tells me I'm 600 plus plus ......

No dissrespect ..
Juice in what gear did you dyno ?? At what point did the dyno load ??

Mac

Dynoed in 4th ..locked up... started the run at 2300 rpms and finished at 3100


dyno load???? what is that?


all my 'control ' trucks were proved to be accurate. they were within 5 hp.


i still see no spike on the dynograph though

 

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you will need to call Piers Harry, or Jason Burton or Eric wagner or..... the spectators at the event to get it all bud.... it may seem a little unbelievable, but a no boost launch will light the tires thru 1st second and third gears. that does not mean anything, but this is probably the most sophisticated dyno out there at present time, and no slippage on the rollers like a mustang or a dynojet. The slippage on those over 500 RWHP is well documented , as i have had 'guests' in the box to keep it on the rollers before!


But on this beast..... no ballast is required.

 

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CPmac.... i only made 1 run like this, as there were other trucks waiting in line... the event started at 8:00 am and did not end until 9:00 pm.


However, both control trucks were ahead and behind me, so i believe the run to be valid. I also did not want to risk my tranny at that HP level, as i towed a 5er down to the event, and really wanted to get home unbroken.


As you can see, there is no spike that i can see

 

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How did you stop a down shift when the dyno was loaded ?? You didn't feel the dyno load,a near stall condition ??

Mac

oh gotcha .. i started the run in 4th ...the calibrated the dyno at the 2300 rpms i started at an loaded an ran until i hit 2500 rpms and then added throttle easy until i was sure i would not go out of lock or 4th gear then gave her all she could handle

 

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the solid one is hp....the dotted one would be for torque, but no sensor was hooked up, so no torque was accurately measured