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Just got my case of Primrose and the Cat filter setup. I have limited time to install it this weekend. How long do you think it should take to install the filter given that I have not messed with the fuel lines ever and that I am reasonably competent mechanic.


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Got the tool for the fittings on the line??? That seems to be the big stumbling block.
 

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I did it in 2 steps....the first evening I just installed the bracket...that took maybe an hour. The next day I finished it and that took the better part of an afternoon....a good three hours for me, but I didn't have a helper and was learning as I went. I also found it near impossible for me without dropping the gas tank. Now that I've done it I'd say I could get it done in half the time.


Make sure you have the tool ($10 @ NAPA) to get the quick disconnects off.....and plan on struggling a bit with those.
 

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I would say the time various depending on the individual. many people have told me how long it takes, and i hear anything from 1.5 hours on up.. it takes me about 2, but i'm not trying to break any speed records when i do it..
 

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Grown men have been known to cry over those quick connect disconnect connectors. My installation took about three hours but should have bee done in 1 1/2 to 2 hours. Just didn't have the majic touch that day. Your working blind above the tank so I recommend you practice on the line connector near the return line cooler. Save your self some time and take the return line cooler loose from its brackest and tie back out of the way. Another helper hint. Secure that cannister bracked in place with long nose Vise Grips before you try to drill and don't worry about using the existing hole, if you hit it , okay, if not, only you will know it. Fill the filter about 3/4 full of clean diesel fuel before installing it, that way you may not have to reprimea.
 

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Thanks for the tips. I will attempt this tomorrow and see how it goes. FishDmax, you have a PM.


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Biggest stumbling block for me was the QD fittings. I had bought an inferior QD tool at Auto Zone, that was impossible to use. After I bought the Lisle tool, I still struggled, but it did come off. I did not lower the tank, just bent the shield down.
 

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Since I dropped the tank a few inches, I also took the shield off altogether. I did not worry about the six little snaps that hold the shield on...I just pulled them off. The two tank straps hold the shield just fine when it goes back together.


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I believe they are called "Quick Connect" connectors. There is nothing "Quick" about disconnecting them. My mechanic friend who helped me found the Lisle tool to be the only useful one. Also, he disconnected the driveshaft in the rear to get more room to work.
 

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it took me about 4 hours by myself dropped my exhaust which made all the difference knowing what I know now probably do it in about 2
 

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Wish about 2 or 3 of you lived near Boulder CO. Would only take me about 1 hour with help and brews



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I installed the Nicktane today. I am not going to pretend that it was easy or fun. It was not. Nothing against Nick or the kit. The engineering of the bracket and the completeness of the kit is awesome. Instructions are wonderful. Need to include on the instructions what size Quick Connect you need. I bought the univeral kit at NAPA. The 1.2 inch tool had too big a coller on it. I bought the $30.00 "scissor" tool that NAPA sells, could not get it between the fittings on the gas tank. Bought an individual 1/2 inch tool at NAPA for $3.50. Worked great. If you could get a discount on them in quantity, you should include it in the Kit, Nick.


The dually has a fender brace where the extra hole is on the other trucks. No biggie. Just used the bolt for the brace to hold that part of the Nicktane bracket. Drilling for the bracket was not that big a deal either. Thought I would take a suggestion from one of the forum guys and pull the drive shaft. Truck was sitting part way in the garage and not on stands. As soon as I popped the ujoint, the truck took off. I was screaming at my 18 year old son to jump in and hit the brakes. Meantime I was raked by the driveshaft, the rear diff and then grabbed the back bumper. Right hand got run over by the right rear, foot got under something, don't know. Then I hung on and tried to stop or slow the truck by dragging my heels and holding back. It kinda worked. Have rasberries on my back and probably a sprained wrist. He got the truck stopped right before it T-boned the neighbors fence across the street. God bless him.


Started back in after a break. Once I got the "right" tool, the one on top of the tank was not too bad. Pulled the drive shaft (e-brake on and TWO big bricks in front of the wheels, thank you) and then bent the shield out of the way. Not too bad to access the tank lines, but NOT great. Took about 2 minutes to get that line loose. Then pulled the fuel chiller and started work on the second fitting. What a *****. Took about 20 minutes of screwing around to get loose then I got a diesel bath. Not happy at this point. Attached the fuel line to the tank and to the supply line. Getting the hose clamp attached at the top of the tank is a *****. I might suggest using a 1/4 drive rachet and socket. Not great, but better than a screw driver. The line at the supply side was not that hard. Everywhere that you have to work on this kit to get it installed is hard to get into and hard to work on. At least it was for me and I am not a rookie. Getting the nuts on the bolts that hold the bracket in is not easy. Sticking fat old fingers up into the rail bosses is NOT fun. Getting them tightened up is not too bad. Getting the 7/16ths line on the fitting near the chiller was not fun.


Just seems like WAY too much work to have to drop the drive shaft, maybe drop the tank, screw with fuel lines and move the chiller just to add a filter. At this point, cutting the stock lines probably would have been the way that I would do it in the future if I had known that it would be this much work. Not trying to be sour apples on purpose, Nick, really. Took me about 1.5 hours to get the bracket in and 3-4 hours of screwing with the fuel lines and such to finish the install. The sad part is that to take it out and restore the stock fuel line would probably take less than 30 minutes.


Did I mention bleeding? I was out of clean spare diesel and did not want to try siphoning out of the tank, so just started pumping. Took 147 pumps to get the system bled. Lot's of foamy diesel at first, then nothing from 80 pumps on, then zap! clear diesel. Started and idled it for about 30 minutes, no stoppages. So far, so good. Added the Primrose and called it a night. My foot hurts, I have road rash, my wrist is swollen (typing with one hand<IMG id='chkImg1' name='chkImg2' id=chkImg1 onmouseover="this.style.cursor='hand'" onclick="window.open('smileys/Confused.gif', 'Image', 'toolbar=0,location=0,status=0,menubar=0,scrollbars=1,resizable=1');" onmouseout="this.style.cursor=''" alt="Click on image to op
 

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Gonna move this one too? How come you let this one sit in the DA section and did not let the one the moved to Nicktane questions (was no questions on that!) sit in here more than 30 seconds? Not trying to be negative on purpose, but now I am wondering. Perhaps lower visibility there?


http://dieselplace.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1623&PN=1


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Jess,


I didn't move anything.. as hoot said he did. i left this post because i figured you intentionally posted it in the incorrect forum as you wanted some quick feedback given you were installing it this weekend. had i immediately moved it you might have got less feedback. so yes, i did leave it there for more exposure. now that you've completed the install i'm moving the thread to the nicktane forum. Sorry if you misunderstood.


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Just curious and thanks for the replies. The funny thing was that the Moved ---> link also disappeared very soon there after. I am almost thinking at this point there should be a fuel filter forum.


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I noticed the "moved" link disappeard also. it used to be that if i moved a topic, and people posted to it, the original location with the "moved to.." line would keep getting bumped up this list. so now it eventually goes away once the topic has been moved to encourage people to go to the proper forum... sorry for the mix-up.
 

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Hi,


I thought that I would chime in as I installed a Nicktane kit today. It wasn't all that bad. The project started at 1 pm with carrying the big box of parts out back and driving the truck around and ended around 4 pm with a 4 mile checkout drive.



Putting the bracket and the filter mount in took just under 1 hour. Half way through, I realized that if I turned the truck around, I would get more light, and that speeded up things. The instructions would have been better if they had listed the orientation of the bracket or had a line drawing to see which way it's supposed to go. Figuring that out took about 15 minutes. I did deviate from the instructions in one small way. I put the bolts in the top and mounted the bracket and nuts onto them. Why? It was much easier than trying to align the nuts onto the bolts while holding the bracket in one hand.





The fuel line disconnect process is where I lost a load of time. First off, buy the recommended tool! Actually, I shopped around and Sears was cheapest. (You use the 1/2 inch one) I dropped the driveshaft and bent the cover down, for me there was plenty of access. I didn't cut the black tape that GM uses to hold the fuel lines together right away. That was a mistake. If I had "freed" the line first the disconnect tool would have worked easier. I also had the tool slip out of my hand and vanish. It took me about 45 minutes to locate it in a dark hidden crack.



The disconnect tool is much simpler to use than I thought. Unfortunately, I made it much harder than it needed to be. The hot tip is to push the old line into the fitting, then put on the tool and work it in. Once it is in, wiggle and rotate the line off. Simple. But it took some time to figure it out!


Connecting the new line up was straight forward and only took about 15 min. I pre-filled the filter with fuel right up to the top and installed it. I started the engine to wait for it to die, so I could bleed the system, but it did not die. I idled it for 15 min while I cleaned up the tools and put them away then checked for leaks. No leakes and it still didn't die. Drove it around the block (4 miles, we live in the country), no problems.





Total time with clean up and a 4 mile drive was just about 3 hours.


Thanks, Nicktane!
 

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I installed my Nicktane Kit this last week. It took about 4 hours from start to finish.


I dropped the driveline like Cougar GT-E. I also jacked the rear end off the ground and set it on stands. Those two together made it easy to look right at the fitting on the tank.


The fitting on the tank came right off, but the front fitting was hell, I ended up taking the cooler loose to get at the fitting.


I didn't prefill the filter, and I lost count of the number of pumps I made after the engine died.


Overall the job wasn't that bad. Buying the kit was a lot better than running all over town looking for parts.


Thanks Nick
 

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Did my install today



3 1/2 hours start to finish and left the driveshaft and exhaust in.


Some observations:


Do not work with the sun on the same side of the truck you are working on
it sucks.


Wear safety Glasses when drilling overhead.............



Make sure all plates and bleeder bolts are tight on the Cat Filter Head.


After Drilling holes in body install CAT filter head on NICKTANE bracket before installing the bracket on the truck.


Dry fit rubber hose and mark all potential rub spots on the hose, then remove and put the supplied Plastic Armor on the lines before installing the lines on the truck.


Prefill Filter, very little bleeding will be required and the stock filter will catch any dirt. After a while the fuel will be all filtered by the CAT anyway.


Thanks to NICK for his filter setup.


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just finished install on a friends d/a 2hours 10minutes from start to finish again dropped exhaust. taking out fuel line was pretty easy once you get the hang of working disconnect tool.prefilled filter checked for leaks and I have a very satisfied friend.thanks nick.
 
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