I dont konw much about this but I was just wondering if when I find the biggest program that someone has made can it just be loaded onto my truck? this might sound stupid but I dont really know how it works, Im in southern ohio if this can happen!!!
If you purchase a tune I would assume (I'm pretty sure) you will not be able to alter that tune or change.Thats cool so when someone makes a killer program I can just fork over some cash and get it loaded onto my truck! that awsome!! is it adjustable? or is it on all the time?
First off, NOBODY TAKE THIS AS A BASH OF THIS PRODUCT. I have delayed buying one of the 'normal' programers because of EFILive. I am well aware of the power of this software, and its ability to data-log, etc., but I thought that part of its appeal was the ability to share tune files with others.If you purchase a tune I would assume (I'm pretty sure) you will not be able to alter that tune or change.
I will assume at some point there will be some free tunes 'or starters' that you will be able to customize that people will share.
Enjoy!
The question is... if these 'kickin' tunes are proprietary, and must be purchased, then, in a sense, we will have come full-circle and EFILive has turned the average folk into the latest wave of tuners, selling their locked tunes to anyone who will buy them.
The reason some of us are guarded with our HIGH HP/TQ tunes is because the time/money investment we have in them.
Time is money and nothing in life is free
That being said there are many people I have helped get started with EFI-Live and have sent many more PM's and emails out to people who have wanted help/advice.
I have spent many hours on the telephone with people giving them a point in the right direction. I will continue to do so.
Part of the fun of this is the discovery of new things, the fact that you can learn from this tool if you spend the time to understand it.
The engine only requires three things to make more power:
1) Additional Fuel
2) Altered Injection Timing
3) Boost or AIR
The only secret is how much, for how long and when to deliver it all.
If you are willing to fail miserably for a while like I did and then begin to understand what changes are then needed only then you can make a lot of progress and in a short amount of time.
My last Folder Properties check for EFI-Live was 1041 files in 264 folders.
Each file is either junk, horrible, better, fair, good, better yet, very good, excellent, wow or OMG !!!!!!
I have spent 2~1/2 months on this already averaging 3++ hours at least a day. Some days I have spent the whole day on one thing trying to isolate and fix it.
So 80 days at a minimum of 3 hours a day = 240 hours. It is actually probably double that in hours.
That is just tuning, now factor in the driving time, dyno $$$$$ time etc.
Last dyno pulls I made set me back $400.00 just to see where I was and to get a realistic starting point. I made 31 unique changes one at a time on the dyno to see what they did, I learned a lot, but it did cost me 1/2 days work and $400.00 just to find out.
Now maybe people will begin to understand why I just won't "GIVE AWAY" a tune that makes the high HP/TQ.
If I choose to give away anything it is my choice to do so, and I have given tunes away.
What if I give it away and then a commercial tuner get's it and passes it along as their own work and sells hundreds or thousands of locked ECM's.........who then was the fool ????
I am not in the habit of making other people RICH !!!!
JMHO on this one, nothing personal.
TNY
You feelin' it John ):h :ro)Writing a tune (from scratch) that kicks *** and is smooth to drive carries with it a feeling of satisfaction that is simply priceless...
Writing a tune (from scratch) that kicks *** and is smooth to drive carries with it a feeling of satisfaction that is simply priceless...
Now go out and :grd:
Oh, I see. I guess I don't understand the liscensing of the EFI stuff yet. I thought if you bought the software/hardware you were able to program unlimited vehicles. What do Diesel Shop guys do? Do they have to pay a 100 bucks everytime they work on a different truck? Or are there multiple licsense options like computer desktop software....you know a one user licsense, 3 user, facility wide, etc.?costs the same. Every vehicle ID is another $100 to the person doing it.