Hard to tell. Kind of sounds like a chirp from the belt slipping for a second. Take the belts off and see if it still does it. Narrows it down to whether is belt/accessory related or engine/starter. I've found that the belts on my CUCV don't like to stay tight and require re-tightening.

 

Doesn;t sound like belts to me, sounds more like an engagement problem, or more properly a disengagement problem.

 

a disengagement problem.

Agree, like the starter gear is hanging up on the flexplate, maybe it needs a shim.
I don't think the motor is turning enough rpms at that point to make a squeal

 

To me it sounds like a shim is needed. Wish mine started that quick, hope the new ip will help

 

It has one shim and person before cut the front mounting bracket so I had to fab a new one out of angle iron. I'm a little reluctant to add a second shim.


I also have a new spare 12v Starter for my own CUCV that I converted to 12v during a Civy Engine donor swap.


Since the starter is the only 24v piece left he has given me permission to finish converting to 12v so for no more trouble than it is to drop the starter I might as well give it a shot.

 

It has one shim and person before cut the front mounting bracket so I had to fab a new one out of angle iron. I'm a little reluctant to add a second shim.
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Usually no shims are needed, have you tried with out any shims?

 

Sounds like 24v CUCV starters are being made in China now

 

It had the shim in and I pulled it when I swapped flex plates. It jammed on the first attempt to start without, so I reinstalled it.


Yes I would say this is a overseas new starter.


The 12v I have is a Autolite but I don't have a front bracket for it on hand.

 

The 12v I have is a Autolite but I don't have a front bracket for it on hand.

Gear reduction starter front bracket is GM part # 23502557

 

I was able to make the gear reduction bracket, while I had it removed. I need the curved one for the non-GR starter.

If need be, I could remove the one on my CUCV and try to recreate it too.

 

The non GR starter bracket is almost impossible to find since about 2 years ago. Fabbing one might be your best bet, or check the for sale section here, you might get lucky

 

Direct drive bracket...

I have one if you need measurements.

 

Could you possibly trace both sides on a piece of paper and them draw the measurements on it?

 

That would be some handy info for the FAQ section.

 

Swapped the 24v starter out with a new Autolite 12v. The solenoid wire pulled out of a improperly installed butt connector so had to replace that.

Fabbed up a new dual battery bracket out of angle iron, drilled and mounted it to the rear CUCV tray.




Reconfigured the battery cable to 12v.

it was about 29 degrees this morning. Did a 20 count on the manual Glow Plug Button and started and died. Did another and it fired right up and idled good.

No more starter engagement noise.

Shut it off to glue rear view mirror bracket on. Went inside to eat some lunch. Came out (did not climb in the cab) did a 15 count and it fired right up and again idled good.

Going to drive it in to work tomorrow so will see how it starts around 0600 when its colder that a Witches...

Still need to come up with a front starter bracket for a non GR starter.

 

it was about 29 degrees this morning. Did a 20 count on the manual Glow Plug Button and started and died. Did another and it fired right up and idled good.

This is how mine starts at 30 degrees except I only count to 12.
I have no idea what kind of glows I have in it right now but I know they work.
I have a set of Duraterms to go in when these crap out.

 

All the old starters didn;t need shims and had no alignment issues. It seems like these kinds of posts are popping up more and more

 

28 degrees this morning...Did a 20 count on the manual glow plug button this morning and it fired right up. Letting it warm up now before I leave for work.

 

Sounds good, but even with 60gs you shouldn't need 20 secs. Doesn't really hurt I guess except for wearing them out quicker

 

I'll do a shorter count when I leave and see what happens...thanks!

 

Did a 10 count this afternoon, It fired but didnt start. Did a second 10 count and it started right up. So try a 12 count in the morning and see how it reacts.


Low Coolant lamp is on now so, need to wait for it to cool down.

Also need a gear selector piece - it was broke and now gone.

Any word on the starter bracket?

 

Low coolant sensor is on the passenger side rad tank about 8 inches below the fill cap. Check the black wire wasn't disrupted while you were in there if it is unplugged the light comes on. The Direct drive bracket is hard to come by at times. There was a bunch for sale on ebay a while back. If I have the time tomorrow ill take a picture of what is currently fashioned on my suburban. I received a kind gift from 68timber of a starter bracket that I havent installed yet. I will try for tomorrow.

 

Pic I took tonight..

 

26 degrees this morning...Did a 12 count and she hit but didn't start, did another 12 count and it fired right up so I think we are good except for getting a starter bracket.

 

:idea: What about mocking up a bracket with cardboard?

Some 1/2 inch angle steel, a little cutting, some welding drill a couple holes and you'd have a bracket fabricated.

 

That would probably work...better yet would someone be willing to lend me one for a week and then I would have an exact pattern to make one.

 

i have made them for several applications welding and cut/bend etc...

but for these 6.x engines...
i just trim up 2 in angle that is 1/8 to 3/16 to make brackets. for material removal drill holes to the corners you want and angle iron/cut off wheel the excess material....a roofing flash card to make a template and plot the holes works real good.

no right angle cuts...cut to the holes so it lasts longer and dont crack easily.

 

It was a balmy 3 degrees this morning...you know the weather when your underwear just sticks to your butt crack (not really).


Did a 12 count on the manual Glow Plug Button and it fired and died. Did two more cycles and it fired right up and rattled but it did start. Whoo Hoo!

 

That's a good cold start I'd say

 

Would anyone be willing to loan me a Direct Drive Starter Bracket to copy?

 

Swapped the old 13Gs for a starter bracket with a guy on SteelSoldiers...mounted it up today and back in buisness.

Darn shift indicator broke so now looking for the orange plastic piece if anyone has a junk cluster.

 

jeez, gotta be one in the junk yard near you. Same for all trucks with the same trans. can;t say I've ever even looked at mine...down until it stops is D, 1 up is N and 1 up from there is R (or i down from P). All the way down is 1 and not sure I've ever used 2