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Are any of you using a cooling system filter?


What is the brand and part number you went with.


What are your thoughts on the product?


Have any of you switched to conventional green antifreeze?


Thanks...


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I installed a Baldwin B5134 behind the grille on my 03.



a-bear's B5134 installation is in the Lone Eagle position.

ALso, I believe Greg (lubespecialist.com) offers a complete B5134 kit with a bracket for the Lone Eagle position.

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jbplock,


Thanks for the information. How often are you changing these filters? Have you been cutting them open and finding alot of sediment? Thanks again...


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I added one also. It fit right into the holes for the extra alt. My base is from a cat and I can't remeber right now what filter is in it. Easy hook up, maybe an hour.
 

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6600LB7 said:
jbplock,


... How often are you changing these filters? Have you been cutting them open and finding alot of sediment? Thanks again...


Justin
Justin,

I'm still on my first filter and plan to change both coolant and filter annually. I also did a complete flush with distilled water and refilled the system with fresh coolant before installing the filter. I wanted to get rid of any casting residue that might still be present in the block. Some folks have just added the filter with out flushing and then changed it after a shorter interval. If you choose this method check the filter often at first to see if stays hot. If it's cool it would indicate that it's plugged. Baldwin also makes a B5088 filter that's designed for a 150k mile extended interval but it's more expensive. The B5134's are designed for a "standard service interval" and are fairly inexpensive (approx $5-6). Since I prefer to do an annual coolant change (even with "longlife" DEXCOOL) I'll also change the filter at that time.

Also FYI … I used the following process for draining, refilling and purging the system of air per the Helms manual.

Before connecting the filter to the heater hoses the cooling system was flushed by draining the radiator, refilling with distilled water and purging air. This was repeated three times (it's probably faster to remove the plugs on the block) and after the third cycle 11 quarts of Dex-Cool were added followed by another air purge and topping off with coolant. Per the Helms manual the air is purged by cycling the engine to 3000 RPMs several times with the cap off and thermostats open (engine hot). At this point I closed the cap and took ride around the block and topped off one more time. Each time the engine is cycled to 3000 RPMs, the coolant level in the expansion tank drops, then rises as the RPMS fall. When all the air is purged the coolant level in the tank doesn't drop as the RPMs are cycled.


 

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Bill,


Thanks for the great information!





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Justin,

Your welcome.. Hope it helps...
 

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What is the purpose of coolant filtration?

Oil gets contaminants from combustion, engine wear, and intake air.

Fuel starts out dirty.

The cooling system is a closed system. Wouldn't it be cheap and better to just change out the coolant instead of replacing a filter? In the end you have a flushed fresh load of coolant with all new additives.
 

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Hoot,

It's my understanding the Coolant filters are standard equipment on large diesel engines. So, since I want to be like all other big OTR's when I pull into a truck stop I installed a coolant filter on my truck too.


Seriously, since the cooling system is closed, any oxidation, rust, scale, etc can circulate and cause premature wear and/or plugging/restriction of coolant passages as well as limit heat transfer. The additive package is supposed to control these things but a filter can also enhance the process. Here are two related Filter TSB's

COOLANT FILTRATION - PRODUCTS AND COMPATIBILITY
"For over 50 years, the performance of heavy duty cooling systems has been
protected and enhanced by the use of coolant filtration and chemical additives."

Cooling System Maintenance for Heavy Duty Engines

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Coolant filters may be overkill for the Duramax ??
Seems like it can't hurt… And besides I was having filter DT's after installing two fuel filters and bypass filter… Hmmm I wonder if can filter my brake fluid or power steering fluid…
 

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I'm sure it helps but I think I'll stick to changing the coolant at every head gasket swap.
 

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Sounds like a plan!!
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Looking at how these filters are installed, what keep the antifreeze from just going around rather than through the filter? Why is the filter not plumbed in series with the heater core?
 

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Bill -


I am planning on installing a hydraulic filter in the power steering circuit. In my experience, power steering pumps are particularly susceptible to dirt/wear. It would usually be a no-pass (value vs. cost + hastle) but since I am installing a Mile Marker hydraulic winch with a tie in to the PS system and quick disconnects, and since I will therefore be in there mucking with the PS plumbing anyway, its a given. Any thoughts?


Now, about that brake system...I hadn't thought of that.
 

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Amric said:
Looking at how these filters are installed, what keep the antifreeze from just going around rather than through the filter? Why is the filter not plumbed in series with the heater core?
Armic,
Good question… This arrangement is similar to a bypass oil filter. The coolant will take the path of least resistance through the heater core which also sets up a pressure differential between input and output. Placing the filter in parallel (or across) the heater allows the pressure differential to draw fluid though the filter. And since the filter is much more restrictive to flow, the majority of coolant still goes through the heater. It’s been very cold here in upstate NY this winter and I have noticed no difference in heat output. The filter is also warm to the touch so I know it’s working.

freddyo said:
.Bill - I am planning on installing a hydraulic filter in the power steering circuit. In my experience, power steering pumps are particularly susceptible to dirt/wear....

Freddyo,


WAY COOL!!
I haven’t thought much about how to do a PS Filter, but if you come up with a method, I’ll be hard pressed to resist following your lead…



When first researching oil bypass filters I found some real nice Donaldson Hydraulic Filters… They are even trade named “Duramax”.
Maybe they would be a possibility. Anyone know the pressure range of our PS system ?


(Hmmm…. Now how can we do the brake fluid??? <SPAN style="mso-spacer
 

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Amric said:
Looking at how these filters are installed, what keep the antifreeze from just going around rather than through the filter? Why is the filter not plumbed in series with the heater core?

Good catch!!



Has anyone done a different install?
 

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If anyone close to me would like to have a coolant filter I would be glad to install it free so I can get some pictures and such. Also I think I have way to get better flow through the filter.

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LanduytG said:
If anyone close to me would like to have a coolant filter I would be glad to install it free so I can get some pictures and such. Also I think I have way to get better flow through the filter.

Greg

Cool!!



Now I have to decide whither to drive to IN or wait for your pics.



Hmmm I think I will wait.



Appreciat your effort an look forward to your solution,


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Greg or any one;


I installed the coolant filter you sent me on Sunday in the 'Lone Eagle' position. Works fine. Drove it to and from work Mon thru Wed 20 miles each direction. This am I started it up and left. Down the road the 'low coolant' light came on. I went home and checked the reservoir. A little low. Filled it. The light stayed on. I turned the truck off and the key back to the on position and pressed the pedal several time quickly to try to turn off the light. No go. I drove to work at 55 mph. Normal op temp. Filter and hoses all warm.


1) where is the low coolant sensor?


2) how do I reset the light?


3) could there be an 'air bubble' issue in th system causing this?


4) any ideas or recommendations?


Appreciate any help or advise. I intend to go home and do jbplock's purge process and see if this helps.


Thanks,Edited by: Deadeye
 
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