biggest tire with leveling kit??????
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Cognito with all the strearing upgrades is the best i have hurd
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22x10 +10 is 5.9bs ... 5.9bs is alittle much for a Cognito UCA.
Is this the truck right here with the wheels?
Did you already crank up the trucks torsion bars and it still rubs?
If you already turned up the bars and you are looking for more height you need to look at the space of the travel between the UCA and frame stop.
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I havent cranked my bars, as it sits it is stock. it only rubs slightly. i just want a tire that will fit that has a heavier load rating, these have a 2910lbs load rating and i dont think its enough and they will definitley wear fast with a heavy load on them. so you dont think i will be able to do a leveling kit? what do you suggest. obviously you know much better than i do. on that note i really appreciate your help in the matter
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Your wheel is alittle wide and has alot of b.s./ great for the tire you have now.
Ideally you would want a 9" wide wheel and about 5"-5.5" to better ceter the tire and wheel in the wheel well and then you could do a Cognito leveling package and something like these-
Nitto Terra Grappler 285/50r22 3195lbs @80psi (33.23" tall x 11.54" Wide)
For where you are at now-
Now if you say you have not touched the bars then you can alittle bit. Need to address the short shock issue, but then turn the bars up to the point that you still maintain atleast 3/4" travel between the UCA and frame stop. The more distance/travel the better the ride.
I myself would not say to buy a leveling kit that includes "keys" and shock extenders for the reason you should have enough adjustment in you factory keys to get you in the bad zone.
If you read this and I loose you feel free to ask questions.
Ideally you would want a 9" wide wheel and about 5"-5.5" to better ceter the tire and wheel in the wheel well and then you could do a Cognito leveling package and something like these-
Nitto Terra Grappler 285/50r22 3195lbs @80psi (33.23" tall x 11.54" Wide)
For where you are at now-
Now if you say you have not touched the bars then you can alittle bit. Need to address the short shock issue, but then turn the bars up to the point that you still maintain atleast 3/4" travel between the UCA and frame stop. The more distance/travel the better the ride.
I myself would not say to buy a leveling kit that includes "keys" and shock extenders for the reason you should have enough adjustment in you factory keys to get you in the bad zone.
If you read this and I loose you feel free to ask questions.
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from what i understand the tires i have now are 32.6 and just slightly rub. so if i were to go to the grapplers i would rub more obviously. now i have heard adjusting the stock suspension would make the ride more harsh. have i heard right? i also heard some of the stock components are not too duarable, along with the tie rods. im still kinda lost on what to do. thanks for the patients with me on this.
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* Read this post about what happens to the IFS suspension when you turn up the torsion bars. There is a GREEN and RED area and once you know how it works you can better adjust per the GREEN area for the better ride. The post also shows what the next fix is (Cognito leveling package)
The only main problem I see is that you wheel has to much back spacing and will more than likely rub or hit the Cognito UCA. You may need to change the wheel.Ok,
The Cognito UCA kit does not give you lift.
Here is what a stock GM UCA and factory frame stop should look like.
* This space will very on every truck that comes off the show room floor because GM sets there trucks up alittle deferent per what tire package they put on the truck.
This image has been resized. Click this bar to view the full image. The original image is 651x488 pixels and 48KB in size.After you crank your bars up you start to loose rebound/drop out travel.
This image has been resized. Click this bar to view the full image. The original image is 651x488 pixels and 54KB in size.When you turn your keys up you limit the travel first with your factory shock. Easy fix with extenders or longer shocks.
This image has been resized. Click this bar to view the full image. The original image is 651x488 pixels and 54KB in size.After the shock you loose drop out travel between the UCA and frame stop. A bad ride at that point, metal to metal. You also get a bad factory ball joint angle that binds and will wear out fast. Also the factory UCA does not allow for correct alignment spec. most of the time.
This image has been resized. Click this bar to view the full image. The original image is 651x488 pixels and 58KB in size.Turning your bars up are the number 1 upgrade GM owners do to get a little bigger tire under there trucks. So Cognito looked at the problems that occur and came up with there Cognito 2-3 leveling UCA kit. The bases is to correct ball joint angle and alignment specs. When testing there set up they found that the factory CV shafts will allow for alittle more drop out than factory allows. So when you find that the stance you get after cranking your bars is where you want your truck to sit and your ride has gone bad then you have ran out of drop out travel, the Cognito UCA will give you 2" more drop out from there to gain your ride back.
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ABOVE -Cognito 2-3" Leveling Kit, Cognito pitman & idler support, Idler pivot w/gusset, Bilsteins 5100's Front/Rear, 285/65r16 BFG M/T's on stock wheels
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ABOVE - Cognito 2-3" Leveling Kit, Cognito pitman & idler support, Idler pivot w/gusset, Bilsteins 5100's Front/Rear, Nitto Dune Grapplers ,18" KMC black HOSS wheels
ABOVE - Cognito 2-3" Leveling Kit, Cognito pitman & idler support, Idler pivot w/gusset, Bilsteins 5100's Front/Rear, Nitto Dune Grapplers ,18" KMC black HOSS wheels
Again does the Cognito UCA kit give you lift? No, it corrects the problems that occur when you level your truck with factory UCA.
- For guys that are drag racing using 4wd and sled pullers, this kit is not for you because the CV angles are greater than you can use at that torq. when in 4wd. A 4" lift with a drop front diff. will work better since you will have level CV angles not cranked up.
- Guys that are every day drivers and regular 4wd offroading, this kit is great for you to get bigger tires under the truck for a better look.
- This kit works best with Bil5100's front and back.
- You can add a rear 1" block and u-bolt to raise the rear as well.
- You can add a rear 1" block and u-bolt to raise the rear as well.
Also look at this link:
Hope this helps....
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thank you very much for the info nick, i guess i have some decided to do. i dont think i can part with my wheels, i worked to hard to find them and get them how i wanted. I looked at those nittos and think i will go with them i just have to find a way to get them in there without sacrificing my ride quality. once again thank you and if you have anymore suggestions they are definitely welcome.
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In my trucks build thread there are picks of what we do to the finder if we need alittle more room, and crank up your bars just make sure you stay in the green and fix the shock issue. I have Bilsteins that ride real nice or shock extenders here > http://www.norcaltruck.com/shop/index.php?cPath=2_21
Here is the link to my truck> http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=229623
Here is the link to my truck> http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=229623
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