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I’ve got a 2005 3/4 ton duramax. I know this has probably been asked many times but I do know as the years go by, tire reliability changes. Last year’s model that was the best isnt the case for this year. I need a new set on my truck. 285/65r18 E rated and just wanted to know:
Which last the longest?
Which is best for moederate off road use? (I.e. gravel roads, muddy dirt roads, wet grass)
Which is quieter on road?
I’m considering Toyo Open Country A/T ll’s, Nitto Terra Grappler G2’s, and General tire Grabber A/T’s. What are y’alls thoughts?
 

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I’ve looked at many of these review sites before I posted. I looked at old post on multiple forum sites also. The sites that give you reviews on specific tires aren’t based on E rated/ 10 ply tires. I made this post to get an idea of what others are running on their rigs and their personal opinions so I can draw a conclusion from. I’ve ran Toyos, Generals, and BFG’s on 1/2 ton trucks with good results but 3/4’s are different and finding a review website that’s specific to E rated tires is just non existent..
 

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The TireRack chart is listing E rated tires. Same with the other TireReview, but both would be applicable to either P or LT tire classes. I have trusted both when I have shopped for tires in the past for all my cars and trucks (I buy for 6 vehicles). They are usually accurate in their assessments.

I do a hell of a lot of research before buying all my tires, as every car/driver/type are different so what works for one wont work for another. I feel asking others opinions about tires is like asking their opinions on oil...everyone has their favorite that may or may not work for your application/style.

I would have added the Hankook RF10 ATm and the old Bridgestone Revo 2 to the lists as two of the best A/T tires on the road.
https://tirereviewsandmore.com/hankook-dynapro-atm-rf10-reviews/
Nothing wrong with the sidewalls on these tires. Ive run two sets and never had an issue with weak cornering or waffling down the road. They are quiet until they wear down to nothing. I havent found any situation they couldnt handle, either.
https://tirereviewsandmore.com/bridgestone-dueler-a-t-revo-2-reviews/
Not sure if these are still available or not, but they were always top rated.


Oh well, tried to help.
 

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But he needs a tire that does not spin the rear wheels of a front heavy diesel on wet grass....Where are those ratings?

That damn Tire Rack, post free shipping on there tires, all they did is add $40 to a tire. Not sure if I can save anymore going and picking them up.
 

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I greatly appreciate any help I can get. You said you buy for 6 vehicles and you research heavily before you buy. I am no different than you other than I don’t have but 3 vehicles to buy tires for but only one that takes an E rated tire. I’ve worked on so many diesels that I can’t even tell you how many it is. I’ve rebuilt Allison’s, New process/ new venture, etc. Last week I put pistons in a Cummins but I’ve never owned a diesel before. I can look at reviews until I’m blue in the face and the only reason I wanted people’s personal opinion is some reviews negate others, so in the end, how can I trust reviews driven by tire selling company’s. Or some off the wall review sight. I like hearing multiple opinions from sources who have tried the products and report what they see. Some call it dumb, I call it a different revenue to come to a conclusion. I haven’t seen reviews on E rated tires and really appreciate the links. I just put rims on from a 2012 Chevrolet duramax, hence the reason why I need an 18” rim size...
 

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I am a tire junky, I have been selling tires for 30 years as a part time job. For what it is worth, I have spent most of the last couple of days researching what tires I want next. Since I sell tires to my friends, if I make a bad suggestion they might not be back again, so I stick with what works. What works for one person though doesn't work for all. First, summer time requires tires that hold air and aren't dry rotted so they don't blow out. Winter time and the wet season sets things apart. For where I live, snow and ice traction are very important to me. I tend to run studded tires. Currently I am running Goodyear Duratracs on my personal truck as well as my work truck in 275/70R18. I have a brand new set ready to go on my work truck this week that I just got done studding. Studs aren't for everyone, but I have to drive a lot for work and most of it is done towing a 28' enclosed trailer. I also use my truck to plow snow. The Duratracs have done a pretty good job. On my personal truck, I usually only run a set of tires for one winter and then I sell them, so my personal Duratracs are currently for sale. So what do I replace them with? I sell a lot of Toyo A/TII's, and a lot of Hankook Dyna Pro ATM RF10's, I like both. I also sell a fair number of BFG KO's. The roads in Wyoming are chip sealed which is like driving on crushed glass glued to the roads, it eats tires at a much quicker rate than other parts of the country. I am not a big fan of Nitto's due to some of the quickest wearing tires I have experienced. So I will not recommend the Terra Grappler or the Trail Grappler which is an M/T for diesel truck applications due to fast tread wear. Lately I have been selling more Cooper tires which include the A/T3 and the ST Maxx and STT Pro. Cooper has just changed the A/T3 to a new version with more siping, but I have only sold one set, so I don't know how well they will hold up. As far as the older A/T3's, I thought they wore premature for a tire with a 55k warranty. The ST Maxx seems to be one of the better lasting Hybrid designs, but they are also in the higher price range. I recommend the Toyo A/TII and Hankook ATM the most though. For myself, I hate getting stuck and I have high expectations of my tires. On my short list right now is the Mastercraft CXT which is similar to the Cooper ST Maxx and very similar to the Mickey Thompson ATZ P3 the only unknown is how long they will last. I just recommended this tire to a buddy of mine in Montana and he just has 6 put on his 2015 Duramax dually, so hopefully he will give me a report soon. Other tires I have liked on my Duramax trucks have been the Cepek Fun Country, long lasting and good traction. I also like the Hankook RW11 snow tire and that is what I run on my wifes Tahoe with studs, great tire. I have had poor results with BFG KO's on diesel trucks, but I liked their traction. I don't have experience with the new KO2 on diesel trucks yet. I have always been a fan of General A/T's with the newest being the ATX, same center tread as before with a more open shoulder lug, this tire would probably be on my short list also. I also have a soft spot for M/T's and the Mickey Thompson MTZ and the Cooper STT Pro are two of my favorites. Another tire I will not recommend is the Michelin A/T2, they wear out too fast and traction is non existant. On the other hand, the Michelin LTX or the new Michelin Defender are super quiet and last a long time.
 

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Here are some of my recommendations, Falken A/T3, Hankook Dynapro RF10, Toyo A/T II Extreme, New Cepek Trail Country, Mastercraft CXT, Cooper ST Maxx, General ATX, Note: Cooper makes the Mastercraft and the Cepek
 

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Thanks Camilleri. Toyo has been one I’ve been really considering. I live in central Alabama so snow is non existent. A lot of guys I know run the BFG KO2’s but not enough time has past to see how they hold up and they are pricey. I’ve ran Generals on 1/2 ton trucks and they’ve lasted longer than a their warranty. The last set I had lasted 70k miles and still had 30% tread. The duramax I have had Michelin’s on it when I bought it and they lasted a while. The previous owner rarely drove it and the belts had seperated internally on the front tires so alignment was non existent until I rotated them to the back and left them there. I’ve always heard Nittos where very soft and wore out fast but their terra grapplers have lasted on 1/2 ton trucks, glad to know they don’t last on 3/4 ton trucks..I’ve got a buddy that owns a tire shop so I’m probably going to get him to order me the tires at cost. Saves a dollar.
 

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The Toyo in the size you want is an Extreme Version and they have a little more aggressive tread. Toyo has excellent quality. The big question is how much mud and type of mud you need to get through. Ask your buddy how many miles his customers are getting with their tires on diesel trucks. I don't want to say certain tires don't last, I contribute some of their early demise to the Wyoming highways where I am. Straight asphalt is much more forgiving.
 

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I’ll definitely ask him. I’m going by his shop tomorrow. Looks like Toyo is the choice. Thanks Camilleri, I really appreciate it.
 

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Asking what’s the best 10ply tire is about the same as which girl out of 50 is the prettiest in a beauty pageant.

Me personally I prefer Nitto’s, my first set that I bought was Tierra Grappler when it got time to replace them I went with Michlens MS2 they road a little better but was a woosie looking tire and a crap tire, they cracked around the bead with only 5k on them.
Replaced them with Nitto Tierra Grappler G2’s nice tire.
When I went with 20’s (wife’s blessing) with 50% life left on my G2’s, I went with Nitto Ridge Grapplers 295/55R20 nicest looking beefy tire I’ve owned and very quiet.
My 285/75R17 G2’s went on my 79 Chevy K20, mainly because I had old dry rotted BFG’s 16.5 rims they don’t offer 16.5 tires anymore except for special off road at $450 each.
Instead of shelling out $$$ for rims and tires I just put on what I had and like.
1st pic Ridge Grapplers my 3rd set of Nittos because I like them, 2nd pic G2’s
 

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Cooper st Max gets my vote. I have them on my 04 and 17,have 55k on the 04 and expect another 10 k.
 

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I liked the BFG A/T's, they got good mileage but you always rotating them (of course your supposed to), also ran General Grabbers, they suck grab alot of rocks. Ran a set of Cooper AT3's, great tire, shitload of miles on em, next set went with Cooper STMax, they need replacing now with right at 49k miles on them. I'm tire shopping but want taller wheels 18" or 20 but gotta figure out what tire size will fit stock height if I change backspacing
 

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53,000 miles and a few burnouts on my Goodyear duratracs and lots to go yet. Really like them. Not too loud on highway either


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Along these same lines does anyone have experience running the Falkon Wildpeak ATW3's in the snow and ice? I am about to have a set installed due to the great winter reviews they get but I notice the LT's use a different tread compound. I am concerned that will ruin their snow and ice traction. Just like the OP I have had a hard time finding LT specific reviews.
 

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Well, I just ordered a set of Toyo Open Country AT2 Extremes. Got them for $225 a tire...and that’s a 285/65r18 E rated. Cheaper than I can find on the net...
 

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Camilleri, my buddy told me he sells a good bit of the Cooper ST Max, Michelins(can’t remember which Michelin but it’s their highway tire) and the BFG KO2s. He does sell the toyos every now and again but they are kinda pricey and harder to get a discount on from his supplier, a discount is hit or miss for him so to speak. The KO2s are pricey on the web but there’s a BF Goodrich plant here locally and their tires are just cheaper around where I live. That’s actually what’s on my truck right now. They were already on the 18” rims I’m just put on and they seem like they’d have pretty good grip off road but they are loud on the highway. Going 60+ mph, I have to yell to talk to anyone riding with me..
 

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Well, I mounted up a new set of 295/70R18 Cooper STT Pro tires on my 2017 3500 and due to the offset of my wheels, they won't work! To tight into the fender at the rear at full crank. Luckily I only mounted one front and tested it. I will return these and have decided to try a newer tire. Mastercraft CXT and I will be sticking with a 275/70R18. I have a buddy that I recommended these to and he installed them last week on his 2015 duramax dually and so far he says these tires are awesome in the snow and mud.
 

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Well, I just ordered a set of Toyo Open Country AT2 Extremes. Got them for $225 a tire...and that’s a 285/65r18 E rated. Cheaper than I can find on the net...
Good price, they cost me 237.21 each.
 
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