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I'm sorry to announce a shipping delay. First of all let me state that if anyone here objects to what will likely be a week to two delay before I can ship, I will gladly refund your check if you so request.


The reason for this is an on the fly engineering change. Initially I was going to use an push nut(retainer for non threaded rod) that looks like this



I thought this would hold the Clevis in place tight enough to retain it. Problem is that I couldn't get it in stainless. When I went to install the first finished set onto my truck, I took off my prototypes. I began to flex the pieces back and forth. After a few minutes I stressed it enough, it popped off. This made me quite leary of possible problems with these. I immediately called Hoot and had him do the same to his. His stayed on, but I'm still uneasy about using these.


So I decided to replace it with this






which is a press on retainer ring for non threaded rods. It will give me a 360 degree clamp action vs the two prongs on the flanged push nut. The Clevis at 3/8" should take an incredible amount of stress, but should something cause your gate to flex the straps too much(not likely but still a possibility), the hats could pop off. This just wasn't acceptable to me, plus the new press ring is available in a stainless material. These should provide the security I(and we) all want and need. The catalog also claims these can be used where a groove(for a C-Clip) or a hole(Cotter Pin) cannot be used, although I have no stress rating for it, my guess is that it's less likely to pop off since it must be pressed on.


Now this isn't as pretty as the flanged cap, I'm also going to add this to complete the finished look






This part has a few more flanges for grabbing and is also available in stainless. Not that at this point it will do more than cover the pin end, but I like the more professionally crafted look.





So what all this means is that I need to order some more parts since these weren't in my original plans. I don't expect to receive them until late next week with the Holidays.


This will also have a minimal effect on pricing for the next batch roughly a $1 a set. It's roughly $30+shipping for these two components with enough to make 25 sets(the original caps were $17 with enough to make 50 sets). It's a small price differential, but since I go back to everything in a stainless material I think it's worth it both for safety and for longevity. Obviously for those that already sent me checks, there will be no adjustment on your end. Just one of those things I need to suck up for development costs(if anyone needs 90+push caps I'll let them go cheeeeeep). <IMG onMouseOver="this.style.cursor='hand'" onMouseOut="this.style.cursor=''" alt='Click on image to open in new window' onClick="window.open('smileys/Ermm.gif', 'Image', 'toolbar=0,location=0,status=0,menubar=0,scrollbars=1,resizable=1');
 

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A developmental burp for the better!
 

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No problem!



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WHAT? You want to make it BETTER? I don't know about that.
No problemo, Rick - you are really making efforts "above and beyond the call" on this little "hobby project!" When you get there you get there and I really appreciate your honesty and integrity in the whole process.
 

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Well although I'm making little money on this, I just hope that when these do finally ship and one of you guys happen to be in my neighborhood to stop by and buy me a beer.


This project went from fun to work in a flash. I don't regret getting myself into(at least not yet). At the least I hope I don't get sued!
 

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Thanks for the continued effort and development. The parts look great! Can't wait.


Merry Christmas!!
 

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All good things take time. I will wait as long as it takes. Your effort is beyond the call of duty.
 

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Ditto
 

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If you need any help let me know. I'm free 27th threw the end of the month. Edited by: JakeGMCHD
 

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Victory Red said:
Well although I'm making little money on this, I just hope that when these do finally ship and one of you guys happen to be in my neighborhood to stop by and buy me a beer.


This project went from fun to work in a flash. I don't regret getting myself into(at least not yet). At the least I hope I don't get sued!

Maybe a lawyer here could give ya a standard disclaimer like Edge and others have if you go extreme on your program.


CYA----military lingo.





Hey, is my set in that next batch
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Lemme know.





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Tony,


While I'm not concentrating on the second run as of yet(because the first ones haven't shipped as of yet
), I can honestly say there will be a second run if not a third and so on.


I pretty much expected the responses I've gotten so far, but I hate the fact I'm running behind schedule.


Jake I appreciate the offer but I'm doing the finish work at my employer and once again the liability crapola pops up.


Isn't there a lawyer type somewhere in the anals of these pages that can give a brother a hand???



I truly hope this is my last delay on this project. Hopefully these will be worth the wait for everyone.


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VR,

I hope I'm in on the second run as well. Any Improvements you make, feel free to pass it on in the price, I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say You should not have to take the hit on this. I also commend you on your hard work and efforts to provide us with a high quality product, in what spare time you may have.


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Well I never tried to make this a money maker for myself. The only reason I'm even making a few bucks is to pay back myself for the materials I've already vested in. With the initial sets I'll break even if my math is any good, with the futures, well it'll take a lot of these to buy myself an attitude, but maybe a deep tranny pan may be in the future.


I'm still planning on doing some type of pre-ordering with the next batch to try and cover everyone here. While I think these are a nice replacement I don't expect to sell more than 100 sets, and mainly to the hardcore users of their tailgates. So it'll be a short run train, but hey won't we all be cool with shiny tailgate straps on our new trucks???
 

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Thanks for doing the right thing.


Enjoy the Holidays, no rush, family first and no lawyers needed here.
 

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Take your time .... NO hurry on my end ... really appreciate the effort you are making ...



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Rick,


I'll be in Tomah WI, actually Ft.MCcoy for winter testing on or around the 10th of Jan for three weeks. If that's near you I'll pop for that beer.
 

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Well that's actually around 160 miles away from me, but hey if you're free on weekends, it's a short jaunt to Kennedy's place from where you're going to be.


I could always plan a weekend for a little GTG and hand deliver yours. There's quite a few WI people on this forum now. Maybe a little diesel party. Any weekend in that time is good for me except for the weekend of the 19th(my wedding anniversary).


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It looks like my replacement parts will arrive at my doorstep tomorrow. Anyhow, I can't promise to get out all sets this weekend, but with any luck on Friday I'll try to pound out 10-15 sets and start getting these out to you. With the holidays you never quite know what can happen, but I'm still keeping my fingers crossed to mail all initial sets out before the end of year and start taking orders for the second round early in January.
 

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Ok, Victory;





What is it you are making? Cost & benefit? Always interested in good stuff for my truck. I assume VR Straps is the name of the product?


BTW, have you designed a good logo for your product so folks can put "VR Straps" on their sign?






Good Luck,
 

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Stainless Steel tailgate straps to replace the weak cables.



Rick.....

Might be good to revise the name to VR Stainless Tailgate Straps.Edited by: hoot
 
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