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UHHH... A whole lotta dangerous, stupid, fines and liability rolled up into one.
 

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Yeah, sounds like trouble! But it is impressive.
 

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I didnt read the thread but I call B.S. I highly doubt the canadian border patrol would let him in with that much of an overload. One of our club members had to buy a new truck in the states when he drove out to race Jackson Hole because the border patrol said they wouldnt let him back in.
 

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People don't realize how stupid they make themselves look when they claim to (or actually DO) overload their vehicles.

I've seen 1/2 ton frames crack from being loaded to 2000lbs on ONE occasion. Of course, the crack doesn't appear until months later.
 

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Read the whole thing ... sounds pretty legit to me. He has a link to his web site with pictures of the rig loaded.
 

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That guy is a serious dumba** for hauling that much.
 

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That guy is a serious dumba** for hauling that much.
Have you ever been in a situation where you HAD to do something ... there just wasnt a viable second option? He was going from Texas to Alaska ... it would have been very, very expensive to have someone haul it for him and to time consuming to make the trip 2 or 3 or 4 times with smaller loads.
 

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Have you ever been in a situation where you HAD to do something ... there just wasnt a viable second option? He was going from Texas to Alaska ... it would have been very, very expensive to have someone haul it for him and to time consuming to make the trip 2 or 3 or 4 times with smaller loads.
better expensive than dead or in jail
 

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better expensive than dead or in jail
Yup.

Anyway I ddn't believe him, that much weight would break those lousy dodge frames... lol :rolleyes:
 

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What an idiot. Imagine if he had to stop quickly if someone pulled out in front of him? How did he not blow up his tranny?

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He posted pics of the load. What is there not to believe? I am sure that the trailer had a hell of a set brakes on it with 12k axles.
 

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At that weight, the tongue wt. would exceed the axle/tire/rim ratings on the rear axle. Here's the math...you decide:

Gross Wt. stated: 43,000
Est. Wt. of D3500: -6,800
Trailer Wt.: 36,200
25% Tongue Wt.: 9,050
Est. Wt. on Rear Empty:+ 3,000
Rear Axle wt. loaded = 12,050

Standard rear axle on Class 3 is 8,550 (DRW) or 6,500 (SRW)
Standard rear axle on Class 4 is 11,000 (13,500 optional)
Standard rear axle on Class 5 is 13,500 (15,000 & 19,000 optional)
Standard rear axle on Class 6 is 15,000 (19,000 optional)
Standard rear axle on Class 7 is 19,000 (21,000 & 23,000 optional)
Standard rear axle on Class 8 is 21,000 (23,000 & 26,000 optional on Single & 34,000, 40,000, and 45,000 on Tandems)
Standard rear axle on Dodge = Weightless!

(Ref: http://eogld.ecomm.gm.com/dmdindex.htm)

2002.5 eth 4x4, drag comp, mach 4's, twins, fuel boost pyro, 315 bfg's, carter pusher, arb bumper with 10.5milemarker winch, rancho 9's, class 5, york compressor with tank, rip's exhaust, true speed, inline pac-brake, headache rack, air bags, b&w gooseneck, sthbnd con fe, arp head studs, swapped in 4.10's, eaton e locker for dana 60, arb locker for dana 80, 508 hp-june 05
Ok....let's say his mods have pushed the 5.9L Cummins into the 14L Torque Performance Range (Getting to 50 MPH on the Alaskan Highway's mountain passes), The goosenck ball (2-5/16") would have to be rated at or above 36K...where did he get his from? Not from Reese, RWS, or many of the other common brands I can find at my local stores. Max is 6,000 tongue wt. and 26,000 trl. wt. is marked right on them. Then there is the cross sectional strenghts of a pick-up truck's frame rails and the hardware that attaches to the gooseneck ball plate. GM/Ford/DC all pretty much use the same 12,000 lbs Cross Sectional Strength steel in their Class 2-3 pick-ups. The Class 4 have 40,000 lbs CSS with optional 80,000 (8mm), Class 5-6 are 80,000 (8mm), 7 are 80,000 with option for 110,000 (9mm), and 8's are 110,000 lbs.

For those that don't know the difference this means: The hardness of the steel times its thinckness equal the amount of pressure the steel will take in flexing before it looses its shape, in otherwords the amount of pressure it takes to permanently bend the metal where it does not return to its original shape when the pressure is removed.

Ref: http://www-5.dodge.com/vehsuite/VehicleCompare.jsp

SPECIFICATIONS 2006 RAM TRUCK 3500

Capacities/Weights
Model / Drive ........... Sport /4x2 ... Laramie / 4x2 ... ST / 4x2 ... SLT / 4x2.
Box Size .................. 8 Ft ... 8 Ft ... 8 Ft ... 8 Ft .
Payload Capacity [lb].. 4400 ... 4330 ... 4480 ... 4400 .
Towing Capacity [lb] .. 10550 ... 10500 ... 10650 ... 10550 .
[standard]
Towing Capacity -[lb].. 15850 ... 15700 ... 15900 ... 15850 .
- Max. Properly Equipped / Manual Trans.
Base Curb Weight [lb]
- Manual Trans........... 6609 ... 6609 ... 6564 ... 6609 .
- Automatic Trans....... 6250 ... 6320 ... 6172 ... 6250 .
Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR) [lb]
- Automatic Trans....... 11000 ... 11000 ... 11000 ... 11000 .
- Manual Trans........... 11500 ... 11500 ... 11500 ... 11500 .
Gross Combined Weight Rating (GCWR) / Properly Equipped [lb]
- Maximum ................ 23000 ... 23000 ... 23000 ... 23000 .
THAT SAYS 20,000 lbs OVERWEIGHT for an OPTIMIZED 1-Ton!!! More, with an '02 3/4-ton.......

Sorry to use logic to bust a myth, but these days pictures can be photoshop'ed to make your son's Mattel pedal car look like it's towing Mount Rushmore, so one has to ask if the story is logical, before believing someone else's picture proof. I was not there, I can't refute his statement, but I DON'T HAVE TO BELIEVE IT EITHER.

RF
 

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If it’s true he is the luckiest SOB on the planet, but it's probably not.
 

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I believe the guy. He said 50 was his top speed flat and best conditions. I think he even said he was doing 20 up the hills.

They also did some math over there, and concluded that he was something like 350 lbs over rated on each tire.

Check again
 

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I run loaded heavy all the time
Load 9 tons hay
truck #7300
trailer #6150
Make this trip every third day about 300 miles all up and down in AZ go slow take your time
 

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He may have done it, but I really doubt it. I've driven that road half a dozen times or more, even towed 8k up it once. Im here to tell ya, its hard on stuff, even if you dont haul ass.

I towed a 76 chevy pickup on a 7000 lb trailer up that road, from Southern Idaho to South Central Alaska. In 5 days and 3600 miles I just about totaled that trailer. (bent rim, and three completely wasted spindles and hubs the 4th probably failed shortly after I sold it) My average speed was something like 45 mph. The truck I towed it with was never the same ('00 half ton chevy with 5.3) the tranny was slipping by 70k and the rear end blew up. Brakes went out shortly there after, and the rear suspension was sagging. Not the same caliber of truck by any means, but Definately not the same caliber load!
 

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My GN ball is rated for 30 tons=60,000 pounds. Look at the pic guy......that much steel...If you will look at his truck it is not sagging bad at all which suggest that the truck is not too badly overloaded with pin wight. Trailers are under rated for safety. A 26k trailer will usually handle 38-40k maybe.
 
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