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I believe that GM is keeping a eye on Ford , If Ford offers their diesel in the 150 in 2017 , GM will offer the 4.5 in med year 2017 or early 2018 .:gr_grin:
Yes unfortantly Wonder if they gonna wait for the 4.5L until the next Gen truck in 2019. then offer it with the 10 speed :rolleyes:
 

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I have to believe at this point that it would be much cheaper to bring it back to life that it would be to design a new engine. They were so far along with development I can't see any way, other than emissions compliance problems, that the 4.5 won't happen if they come out with a half-ton diesel. With GM playing follow the leader behind Ford, they will have to come out with a Diesel 1/2 ton. Ford could put lipstick on a pig and people would love it. Their marketing office is so far ahead of the game than the other manufacturers that it's starting to look silly at what they can get away with. How many people did not by the Cummins because it is in a Nissan? Likewise with the Ecodiesel because it is in a Dodge? The Ecodiesel did bring dodge a little closer to the top but anyone that goes on an Ecodiesel forum POLL Catastrophic Failures would probably shy away from buying one if they didn't already have one. A diesel in an F-150, now that will outsell both the Nissan and the Dodge offering combined and possibly have Ford dropping some of their other engine options due to lake of sales with them.
 
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I have to believe at this point that it would be much cheaper to bring it back to life that it would be to design a new engine. They were so far along with development I can't see any way, other than emissions compliance problems, that the 4.5 won't happen if they come out with a half-ton diesel. With GM playing follow the leader behind Ford, they will have to come out with a Diesel 1/2 ton. Ford could put lipstick on a pig and people would love it. Their marketing office is so far ahead of the game than the other manufacturers that it's starting to look silly at what they can get away with. How many people did not by the Cummins because it is in a Nissan? Likewise with the Ecodiesel because it is in a Dodge? The Ecodiesel did bring dodge a little closer to the top but anyone that goes on an Ecodiesel forum POLL Catastrophic Failures would probably shy away from buying one if they didn't already have one. A diesel in an F-150, now that will outsell both the Nissan and the Dodge offering combined and possibly have Ford dropping some of their other engine options due to lake of sales with them.

Id agree with all of this. Tired of GM Playing follow the leader. They need to get ahead of the game. Bring things out before other manufactures. Like the Colorado/Canyon Diesels. :thumb:

EcoDiesel from ram having issues don't surprise me at all.
 

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This should be going in the Express vans instead of the 2.8 4 banger
 

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A small hope

GM needs to get off their butts and lead again




CGI continues to be of real interest
Philip Ward, head of performance castings at GW, said: “We continue to develop our castings operations by investing in our facilities. This acquisition adds further high-level casting capability and additional skills and knowledge, providing another positive step as the technology leader in high-performance castings.”
Edward Grainger, photographed above, when asked if the company had supplied prototype cylinder blocks in compacted graphite iron (CGI) for General Motors’ Duramax 4.5-litre V8 and the Ford Motor Company's three-cylinder 1-litre EcoBoost engines, said he could not formally comment on specific work for specific OEMs, due to signed confidentially agreements, but he did add that "CGI continued to be an area of real interest for G&W.
 

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Edward Grainger, photographed above, when asked if the company had supplied prototype cylinder blocks in compacted graphite iron (CGI) for General Motors’ Duramax 4.5-litre V8 and the Ford Motor Company's three-cylinder 1-litre EcoBoost engines, said he could not formally comment on specific work for specific OEMs, due to signed confidentially agreements, but he did add that "CGI continued to be an area of real interest for G&W.
 

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OK GM Where is the half ton diesel FORD has one now too along with ram
 

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OK GM Where is the half ton diesel FORD has one now too along with ram
It might be as close as the Ford diesel. Mortimer has a source at this. "Ford's move raises one simple question: How will GM, the sleeping giant, respond? Will the 'new' 4.5-litre Duramax appear sooner rather than later? Another vee CGI diesel? The US rumour mill says the CGI Duramax will bow in summer 2018.

Auto Industry Newsletter: Ford fits 3-litre diesel to F-150 pick-up truck

If the Source is right we will soon hear more.:coolnana:
 
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