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Old 02-27-2014, 03:27 AM   #61 (permalink)
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Here in the US, I was driving a Semi right after Hurricane Katrina. I stopped at a truck stop that was selling red diesel and I got a letter stating that I paid the road tax. Otherwise It is the same.

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Old 02-28-2014, 01:41 AM   #62 (permalink)
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Here in the US, I was driving a Semi right after Hurricane Katrina. I stopped at a truck stop that was selling red diesel and I got a letter stating that I paid the road tax. Otherwise It is the same.
But Katrina was an emergency situation.....supplies HAD to keep moving. If some bureaucrat stopped relief supplies because of the wrong color fuel (and ONLY that), HIS/HER head would roll for sure!!!! Diesel is diesel (if ULS) and a diesel engine will burn both. IT does not care what color diesel it is "fed"....only us "people" care because of $$$$.

If you had NO road diesel available in an area that was in an Emergency, but had 20,000 gallons of dyed diesel and need supplies, equipment or what ever moved......I'm sure the declaration of emergency may cover it....(would have to check)....if life or death situation (ie bus to haul out during evacuation.....run it!



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Can you test for red diesel on your own?

I have a red diesel tank to fill up my equipment, but it keeps emptying WAY faster than it should. Is there a way I can test my employees tanks via the law enforcements "dipping" process to see if they're the ones stealing my diesel?
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How long to rid traces of Dyed Fuel

Any idea how long its going to take to rid the tank of detectable off road fuel? Buying wifes late Grandfathers 08 that he only filled with farm fuel. It is down to 1/8 of a tank, and I also need to replace the fuel filter so will fill it with road fuel before changing filter...

Just curious if a couple tanks will do the trick or as I've heard rumor that its detectable for a long time...
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Old 03-03-2015, 04:14 PM   #65 (permalink)
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I have a red diesel tank to fill up my equipment, but it keeps emptying WAY faster than it should. Is there a way I can test my employees tanks via the law enforcements "dipping" process to see if they're the ones stealing my diesel?
All they use, from what I have seen, is a LONG clear straw. They dip it in, cover the end and draw out fluid to see the color.

Legality wise, I don't know if you can search their vehicle. I'd suggest a lock for the pump tank. Unless you think it's happening during working hours when you are not there.


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Any idea how long its going to take to rid the tank of detectable off road fuel? Buying wifes late Grandfathers 08 that he only filled with farm fuel. It is down to 1/8 of a tank, and I also need to replace the fuel filter so will fill it with road fuel before changing filter...

Just curious if a couple tanks will do the trick or as I've heard rumor that its detectable for a long time...
An 1/8 of a tank is still quite a bit of fuel. If it were me, I'd run the truck till it stalled, then put in 5 gallons, run it till it stalls and then another 5 gallons. But that's me......

Or, you can park the truck front on blocks, stick a hose w/ a pump on it and pump as much dyed fuel out. Most of the fuel will go back and if you can position the hose to the back of the tank.....
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I have a red diesel tank to fill up my equipment, but it keeps emptying WAY faster than it should. Is there a way I can test my employees tanks via the law enforcements "dipping" process to see if they're the ones stealing my diesel?
Maybe a little inside tip (snitch) out to the corresponding authorities and I'm sure they will more than gladly help out.
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Personally I would just run it- it will take a little bit to get it out, but the odds of getting stuck is slim to none (unless you put yourself in a position to do so...ie, hotshotting loads, etc.).
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Dyed fuel dectiable?

Ok, so like I stated a couple posts earlier I needed to replace fuel filter on pickup I bought from wife's Grandmother. Everyone swore up and down that Grandpa used only farm fuel (off road fuel). So when I changed the fuel filter it was clear fuel... Not sure if everyone was wrong, or if he had run a couple tanks of road fuel in it, anyway I didn't see and red in it at all... Guessing that a scientific test could detect something, but not too worried about it now.
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Ok, so like I stated a couple posts earlier I needed to replace fuel filter on pickup I bought from wife's Grandmother. Everyone swore up and down that Grandpa used only farm fuel (off road fuel). So when I changed the fuel filter it was clear fuel... Not sure if everyone was wrong, or if he had run a couple tanks of road fuel in it, anyway I didn't see and red in it at all... Guessing that a scientific test could detect something, but not too worried about it now.

Any color but red, reddish. Some fuel I have seen has this yellow or green tint. If you put some fuel in to a clear jar and shine a light, you'll be able to tell better.

If you didn't see anything, then I say fill up the tank w/ road diesel. IF there ever was any red in the tank, it is possible that Grandpa ran a tank or two of road in it already or more.
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black Stanadyne PMD w/ #5-June 2013 / Dorman relocation kit, D-Tech PMD to bumper, #9 resistor- Jan 2013 / Carter Lift Pump, P74143 10-15psi, 32gph- Dec 2012 / Brought home Dec 17, 2012

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Grandpa may have had untaxed #2 that wasn't red. Farmers used to buy fuel from suppliers (delivered and filled in farm tanks) that was same #2 but we weren't charged the road tax. Too many would use these tanks for trucks as well as tractors so the feds came up with the red dye additive to designate "off-road" use fuel. It is also possible that grandpa has regular #2 delivered to farm for everything and took the tax break for farm use.

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