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Old 07-04-2018, 03:30 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Oh, forgot to add that I run the Air Ride 5000 bags with 15psi while pulling my 5th wheel. Trailer sits a tad nose-high, but truck remains nice & level. Manual valves to each bag. Works just fine for me.

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Old 07-04-2018, 06:20 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Not sure why some of you are getting defensive - I "get it" - some of you guys like the looks of a truck riding higher than stock, and as such, are willing to assume what is involved to modify your front suspension. Should have just stated that at first. Yes, I agree - each to his own.

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Old 07-04-2018, 08:43 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Most of us level/lift guys go with taller tires, this gives more clearance for the differential.
Example: My tires are about 3 1/2” taller than stock.
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Old 07-08-2018, 12:41 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I had the Firestone bags on my 2007.5 and had zero issues. Plan on putting a set on my 2017. I see a new 5th wheel in my future. For the price you can't go wrong.
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With or without a lift the airbags will help to support the load and in our case, with a bunch of tongue weight (16k# 5th wheel) actually ride better. I assume this is from leveling out things and restoring the steering geometry. For trucks in the past I've used FS bags but nothing wrong with the AR's. The new truck will get separate bag filling but it is truly not needed, my others have been ran thru a "T" to allow both bags to fill the same.
You'll just have to play with how much air for what you are towing & +/- 5-10# when empty
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Without bags towing the driveshaft is not aligned, you could have a slight clunk, the front could float around a bit.
With bags your bringing the rear back up close to stock and transferring some weight back to the front, driveline back towards a closer alignment.

I should have taken a picture of mine yesterday when I hooked up with having 2700-3000 lbs pin weight without the bags aired up and with air, but I didn’t think about it, besides it was hot outside.

I did measure hooked up with 60psi in my bags.
Stock my front is about 1/2” lower than the rear before I hook up.
Hooked up with 60 lbs in my FS bags the front was about 5/8” higher, than the rears.
Without bags if I remember correctly there was about 3” difference front to rear, rear being 3” lower than the front.
Airbags is the smarter way if you tow, and you will not loose the ride when empty, like you would with leaf spring modifications.
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I use Air Lift air bags. This is my second truck with them.
When towing the tongue weight is 1,300 LBS., and there's about 1,000 LBS of cargo in the bed. The truck remains level, but the rear can be bouncy at times.
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What air pressure are you running in your bags when towing ?
Usually when it’s a little bouncy in the rear, the psi is a little low even with a trailer.
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What air pressure are you running in your bags when towing ?
Usually when itís a little bouncy in the rear, the psi is a little low even with a trailer.
12-15 LBS with a trailer and load; 7-8 LBS without a trailer and an empty bed.
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I’d suggest bump up the psi a little at a time when loaded.
Maybe start at 25 then go from there, until your satisfied.
My car hauler had about the same tongue weight I ran about 50 psi.
I’m looking for ride stability better front steering control over being level.

No less than 5psi is recommended when empty not only for the rides sake, so if 7-8 is good for you, then stay at those settings.
For anyone questioning the minimum, it’s because air has moisture which will help bags longevity, less chance of them cracking inside out.

I’ve mentioned this before, I have the AirLift Load Controller II which has a 5 psi solenoid in-line so it will always maintain no lower than 5psi.
Unless a leak shows up, then the air pump will just continually run until you pull the fuse, then fix the leak.

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