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Old 01-02-2017, 12:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Towing 20' Containers - Advice Needed

Hey folks. I'm in need of some recommendations from some experienced "towers'".

Currently in the process of opening a storage facility which units are built out of shipping containers. I need to transport 300 containers about 1 hour from the container pickup site, to the location of the facility.

The companies selling containers offer shipping, but that's generally about $300 to $400 each. I'm confident I may be able to outsource this to a couple of tow companies for approximately $150 to $200 each, or maybe even slightly cheaper via some bids on uship (??). The initial bid of $400 x 300 units adds a lot to the overall cost of the project. I could purchase a truck, do many of the pickups myself, and outsource a bit, and come in under that.

I'm in need of a truck for the facility (just shy of 20 acres), and will need the truck to initially bring containers to the site now, and in the future. The plan is to start with 300 containers and grow to 600 within a couple of years, so we will basically be picking up a lot of them up front, and then steadily picking them up as we go...so will need to be able to pick up as needed.

Additionally, we will offer a large area of car, boat, RV, and heavy equipment parking, and will need to be able to plow the lot and handle any other needs that might arise for the business.

I'm looking for some advice on the options I've come up with.

Option #1 - Purchase something similar to a Ford F350 setup for a 5th wheel along with a gooseneck trailer. The container facility will load the container onto the trailer, and we will have a forklift to unload at our site. The F350 would have many uses around the site.

Option #2 - Purchase a flat bed / roll back tow truck, something similar to an F550 in size. (I don't see anything online regarding folks towing with their roll backs, but we would need to be able to put a plow on it and plow our lot. I don't see this being an issue but need to be sure that works).

Option #3 - ??

Since we need to purchase a vehicle for the facility, I would like to purchase something that can handle transporting containers so we have the flexibility to always go grab one as needed. Need to keep it under-CDL weight. The containers will always be transported empty.

I'm looking at option 1 or 2 plus also outsourcing some of the loads to local tow companies as we would like to get all 300 containers on site within 2 months, and it's going to be a lot of back and forth.

Thoughts or any other options I might consider?

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Theres a local company here that uses containers for storage, they use a pickup and a couple semis. They have Landol style trailers for each truck they use to haul the containers on.

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IMO you should have more then one truck. If you rely too much on one vehicle and that vehicle goes down you are screwed. Buy a new truck to haul and a back up truck that can plow or pick up containers if needed. If they are 20' you should be able to buy a big enough trailer to haul two at once. What about delivery? Are you delivering them someone as well? You need to be able to unload elsewhere without a forklift if so.
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Theres a local company here that uses containers for storage, they use a pickup and a couple semis. They have Landol style trailers for each truck they use to haul the containers on.
Thanks for the info. Where are you located? Do you know the name of that local company? Interested to check out their website.

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IMO you should have more then one truck. If you rely too much on one vehicle and that vehicle goes down you are screwed. Buy a new truck to haul and a back up truck that can plow or pick up containers if needed. If they are 20' you should be able to buy a big enough trailer to haul two at once. What about delivery? Are you delivering them someone as well? You need to be able to unload elsewhere without a forklift if so.
Good point, thanks. Our intention is to purchase one brand new truck (to be able to own it from the beginning, and maintain it properly). We definitely want hassle free up front and for some time. Having a 2nd used one is a great tip. I do currently own a newer F150, and I've been able to find one company that sells 20' specific container trailers that could be hauled with the F150. Wind resistance might really be an issue though from what I'm reading. However...I don't think hauling 50 miles one way should be too much of an issue. That might a good way to have a 2nd truck and trailer without actually having a 2nd truck...though I like the idea of having an older 2nd truck at the site, just in case.


I've looked at trailers that could haul two 20' containers, and the 350 and I believe 250 would be more than capable of pulling them...though I believe that would put me over the CDL limit.

I've got a good friend with a 2500 who could bumper pull (no 5th wheel capability on his truck). So could help pull a single container on the weekends.

Ultimately we need at least 1 truck at the site, so I would like to buy equipment we could use to save money on the delivery of the containers, around the site for work, and ultimately to continue to bring containers to the site as needed.
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I just got a 40' delivered. Company used a 40' gooseneck with hydraulic tilt bed pulled by a 1 ton dually.
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I just got a 40' delivered. Company used a 40' gooseneck with hydraulic tilt bed pulled by a 1 ton dually.
Awesome. Thanks for the info. Was hoping to keep it under CDL (and could with an F250 size and pulling one 20' container), but thinking I might need to get non-air brake CDL to be able to do an F350 size truck with a 40' gooseneck pulling two 20' containers.
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I would recommend a one ton and trailer for the 20'. Sub contract as needed for initial amount. If you can, get a 7 ft plow for your F-150

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Anything you put behind a new "F350" rated truck is going to require the need of a CDL. Total GVWR of the two vehicles will be over 26,001 pounds. Doesn't matter that the actual weight is less.
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Correct.

After speaking with our State Police, it was clearly determined that the F350 is out.

F150 or F250 it's going to have to be. Both will fit within the weight limits below CDL, and both will pull one container fine (2 for the F250).

They did mention that I do not need DOT#s in IL for this setup, but I do need to speak with the Illinois Commerce Commission regarding what they feel about me pulling my own containers from where I buy them to my site, and what regulations they think would apply.
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