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Old 02-08-2012, 07:28 AM   #11 (permalink)
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good or no good?

I currently have an older model Drawtite Activator II that I am have issues with (as stated in another thread)

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Old 02-08-2012, 11:50 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Amazon.com: Tekonsha Engineering 90885 Prodigy Brake Control: Automotive

good or no good?

I currently have an older model Drawtite Activator II that I am have issues with (as stated in another thread)
The Prodigy is the long standing favourite. I have one in my Trailblazer and it's been flawless. I've also heard great things about the newer Tekonsha P3.

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Prodigy, P2 and P3 use the same computer logic/inputs to compute the trailer brake output. The only difference is in the display. Prodigy/P2 are the "basic" display and the P3 has the improved user friendly display.

These are top of the line inertia based proportional controllers. The next step up is a Fluid Pressure reading brake controller like the MaxBrake and Brakesmart units plus the OEM integrated brake controllers.
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Prodigy, P2 and P3 use the same computer logic/inputs to compute the trailer brake output. The only difference is in the display. Prodigy/P2 are the "basic" display and the P3 has the improved user friendly display.
Yes, and no. There are differences, most notably petween the Prodigy (original) and the P2 - The most notable difference is the LED display is blue on the P2 where as it is red on the Prodigy. The second difference is that the P2 can be mounted at any angle, a full 360 degrees, where as the Prodigy needs to be between level and 70 degrees nose up. The third big difference is that the P2 can be used with electric over hydraulic systems. A couple minor changes include some inherited software and technology from the Tekonsha P3, their top-of-the-line controller. The P2 also offers reverse battery protection.

The p3 adds on the p2 features with a nice diagnostic and info LCD display, advanced settings for electric-over-hydraulic brake setup, and a few other niceities. It does have (surprisingly) more restrictive mounting limitations versus the P2, but it's unlikely to be an issue for most people.

I just bought a P3 from another member here, installed it yesterday, and am impressed so far. I haven't yet pulled the trailer with it, but will report when I do. (Edit: I've towed thousands of miles with this controller now and it is the hands-down BEST brake controller I have ever owned. I highly recommend it!)

Anyhow, the Prodigy you quoted is a good controller - entry level of the top-shelf lineup, IMHO, with the P2 being next, and the P3 at the top of the non-hydraulic proportional electric controllers.
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What about the old controller I have that you tap inline on the master Cylinder, and there is no electronics on it except the wires going to the trailer. Im curious how it would stack up to the modern stuff.
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What about the old controller I have that you tap inline on the master Cylinder, and there is no electronics on it except the wires going to the trailer. Im curious how it would stack up to the modern stuff.
They'e similar in theory to many of the newer ITBC's that also sense and base their braking effort on the brake pressure from the tow vehicle. Accordingly, they are far better than any timer based controller, but my experience with them in the past is that they are not as smooth as some of the newer electronic controllers.

They are certainly still serviceable though and arguably good controllers to still be using. A lot of people still swear by the more modern equivalents to these older style units, for that matter (BrakeSmart is one IIRC), but they are becoming less and less common as the electronic controllers run away with the market, and virtually identical performance without all the hassle of tapping into the master cylinder.
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Tekonsha voyager, proportional or timer ? It was in the truck when I bought it.

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Proportional electronic. Good controller. Not the best, but perfect for the needs of the casual tower.
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I have used both for pulling my 12k 5ver and I was shocked at the difference. The electronic seemed "jerky" while the promotional was not much different than simply touching the brakes as i would apply them to my truck. Almost like having 2 brake feet. The promotional is more similar to the same method of apply your brakes to your truck.

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