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evoorng 05-14-2008 03:46 AM

ok!! is everyone over the limit
 
i bought a 2500 d-max thinking it will tow 16k ish legal. my book says it will tow 12k legal. its a 06 lly cc 4x4 i posted this on the towing section as well, but thought i would get more hits here. my gas tows 2k lbs less. why do i see almost every 2500 d-max towing 35-40ft trailers knowing its over the 12k lb limit. or am i missing something. not even the 3500 cc d-max will tow over 12k from what my book says. the most is 3500 ext cab drw at 16.3k

Hal Hughes 05-14-2008 07:16 AM

I believe the 12,000 lbs is for bumper towing. The 16K is for fifth wheel towing.

woodchuck2 05-14-2008 08:28 AM

The hitch "bumper towing" is 7500 straight pull, 12k with load handlers. I believe the 5er or gooseneck towing is 23k. Yes, i am over when pulling my mini-ex, the trailer/mini-ex weight a little over 11k but i drive it responsably since i have no load handlers. It tows just fine. My dump trailer tends to over weight too, again use caution.

robbieyukon 05-14-2008 11:36 PM

I try not to pull no more than 2.5 times the weight of my truck as a good rull of thumb. So seeing how my truck weighs about 6,000lbs i will try to stay under 15,000lbs. I only pull goosenecks too. The trucks handle them much better.

evoorng 05-15-2008 02:57 AM

so what is my limit towing 5th wheel and pull behind? 12k 5th wheel seens light but i could be wrong. ty again

mike3871 05-15-2008 08:53 AM

You're Going To Wake Up The Weight Police On Here. I Tow A 38 Ft. 5er At 11500 Empty And 15500 Gvw. All In All You Need To Figure Your Pin Weight On The 5er To See Where The Over Weight Factor Comes In. My Truck With Tool Box 5th Wheel And 2 Pass. And 45 Gallons Of Fuel Comes To 7800 Lbs. So Legally I Can Put 1200 More Lbs. On The Truck Itself But I Alway Put More. You'll Get A Lot Of Different Ans. On Here But See What You Truck Weighs And Do The Math. The Hitch Can Be Upgraded To A Heavier One If Need Be For The Bumper Pull.

Ramblinrodney 05-15-2008 09:04 AM

ok!! is everyone over the limit
 
I would have to say the percentage is high on at least one of the limits. Just off hand Pay load 2351#, Maximum trailer weight 14,200#, GCVW 22,000#, GVWR 9200#, GAVR FRT. 4670#, GAWR RR 6084#. Pay load gets me 2351# then you have to subtract fuel 182# passengers 5x150# =750#, accessories, hitch, nerf bars, fold-a- cover ,wood. cooler 100#. Now my pay load is down to 1319# and my pin wieght on my 5er is 2500# so I'm at least 1181# over on pay load weight. Thinking about getting rid of the cooler, maybe not. There will be a post after mine on all of the other forums about legality and its good to bring up.

signguy 05-15-2008 04:43 PM

Yes
 
I think it is safe to say a lot of us are not just over weight but way over- My rig is and frankly I don't loose any sleep over it- Mostly because the Duramax and Allison don't seem to mind either :)

I laugh at all of the people who worry about a couple hundred pounds over hurting these trucks. I am in the several thousand pounds over on all of the numbers-

Please don't take this to mean I don't respect folks who stay within the limits- I wish I was.

01Duramax6spd 05-15-2008 09:33 PM

I try to stay under 2.5X what it's rated at :eek: ):h.
Don't get concerned unless you get over 20K and then I just say use caution and good judgement.

woodchuck2 05-15-2008 10:12 PM

You have to watch you state laws for towing capacity/class of license too. Here in NY the laws contradict themselves with how much you can tow and what class license you need. This will also vary by the Officer who is writing your ticket too.


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