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Old 05-15-2008, 10:16 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Not attempting to be a member of the weight police, but before I got my DMax, I had a Frd 250. Bought it new to tow with, followed their tow guide as both I and the RV dealer understood it, and then the trouble began. Severe front to back jerking while attempting to tow. RV dealer said many others were towing the same trailer with the same model truck with no problems. Took the problem to Frd and their answer was that I was 500 lbs over the GVWR of the truck and if I kept towing that trailer, they would void my warranty. To shorten the story, I traded the Frd with 4500 miles on it for the truck in my sig.

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Old 05-15-2008, 10:55 PM   #12 (permalink)
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limit? limit is what you make it to be in order to carry you and your family to a safe destination, i don't give a red ant's *** what the manufacture says, they always write sh*t to protect warrant isues. so if you trust your horse than run how how you like!!!!!

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Old 05-16-2008, 12:29 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Towing Weight

To evoorng's post. I seem to remember seeing GM towing guide at a dealer, that said a 2500HD Duramax "Gross Combination Weight Rating" GCWR is 22,000 lbs. Load your truck to the max of 9,200 (the door plate rating) and then you would be ok with a 12,800 trailer. If the trailer has a 13,800 plaque on it, I would suggest to weight it rigged, loaded and ready to go. You would have to have all the tanks full of water, take all your 100s of pounds of tools, the generator, and three weeks of food stuffs to get to 13,800. On a 13.8 rated trailer I usually weight in at about 11,500.

The greater challenge is to get the pin weight light enough to keep the truck within it's weight rating. The truck limit is harder to meet, the axle limits seem to be good. The driver axle limit is about 6000 lbs if I remember correctly. Check the door plate on your truck. I'm usually at 6,000 on the drive axle, 4000 on the front, 800-1000 over on the truck total. Nothing a bit of air bags doesn't take care of. Don't get too light on the pin or the trailer will wonder all over the road.

Touch wood.........never seem a highway weight scale sign call in recreational vehicles. But if your in a accident only the operator (driver) gets charged for have an unsafe vehicle on a public road.
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Old 05-16-2008, 04:40 PM   #14 (permalink)
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...16k on the 5ver...but make sure you get your non commercial class A if the 5vr your lookin at is a trip axle CHP is all over everyones ARSE with that right now muff hugga!!
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Old 05-17-2008, 12:13 AM   #15 (permalink)
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You may want to check the drivers license requirements for your home state/province, and the state/province of registration of the truck and trailer. Many only need a car type drivers license, while others may base requirement on weight or length, or number of vehicles in the combination. I'm not sure if the minimum requirements of some states/provinces would be accepted in California when just visiting.
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Old 05-17-2008, 02:01 AM   #16 (permalink)
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The biggest thing I would watch for is your axle/tire weight limits. I drag around a 40' fiver that weighs 13k empty and dry. loaded and wet I can have 17.5k legal. And then there is the matter of the sea-doo's that I hook on the back of that. Fully loaded I am 26,000. But I am legal on all my axles and 3' short of being too long. And too long is over 75'. Its a heavy load, but all is well and I take my time. Its just the 7-9 mpg that hurts the most.
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Old 05-17-2008, 11:42 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Load it up ready for a trip. Full fuel and all. Then stop at a truck stop weigh station and find out what each axle load is. You'll have proof in writing and peace of mind with the family on board.
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Old 05-18-2008, 11:24 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I always go by weight per axle not GVW or GCWR because my truck is an 88 1ton it's GVW is only 9200 pounds and the truck weighs more than that with the welder and flatbed and a full tank. I am more worried about bendinig that old dana 70 than I am of anything else, and breaking the rear sping perches off the frame has been a problem for me I have had to weld then mount back on the factory rivits couldn't handle what the rest of the truck could. I just drive as safe as possible. Hopefully no-one readinig this has seen "HOW TO BREAK A TRUCK" in truck uses because that is what happens when you are overloaded bad and then throw a temper tantrem you just have to respect your load and let your truck do it's thing.
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Old 05-24-2008, 08:51 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Don't worry about that D70HD. I asume you're refering to an old style 88 1ton? We have one with a lengthened frame,14' flatbed and it almost daily hauls 4500-5000lbs around the ranch,all winter long. Haven't bent or broken anything from the cab back,just ahead of the cab .


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I always go by weight per axle not GVW or GCWR because my truck is an 88 1ton it's GVW is only 9200 pounds and the truck weighs more than that with the welder and flatbed and a full tank. I am more worried about bendinig that old dana 70 than I am of anything else, and breaking the rear sping perches off the frame has been a problem for me I have had to weld then mount back on the factory rivits couldn't handle what the rest of the truck could. I just drive as safe as possible. Hopefully no-one readinig this has seen "HOW TO BREAK A TRUCK" in truck uses because that is what happens when you are overloaded bad and then throw a temper tantrem you just have to respect your load and let your truck do it's thing.
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Old 05-26-2008, 10:54 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I tow a 34' 5er that is 10,000 lbs dry. I asked the dealer about limits. They looked out at my truck and laughed. They thought it funny that I was worried about overloading anything when I had a Duramax sitting outside.

I've not had any trouble in a year of use, so I guess all is well.

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