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Old 03-04-2014, 11:17 PM   #11 (permalink)
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They're not. I just checked up on my Mom's '15 LTZ Tahoe order. I even added the $1700 radar/adaptive cruise control and navigation. Also the additional $ for the Crystal Red 3-stage paint.

$64K, should be shipping soon.
That's a 2wd, which would get it closer to $68k if it were 4x4.

Nevertheless, doesn't matter what the MSRP is, if there isn't 18- 22% off MSRP it isnt that great of a deal. 16% off MSRP is as low as I would go and not feel cheated.

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Old 03-05-2014, 08:41 AM   #12 (permalink)
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In past deals with this dealership, we should end up at the sticker price +/- 200 or so OUT THE DOOR.

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In past deals with this dealership, we should end up at the sticker price +/- 200 or so OUT THE DOOR.
I realize sales taxes are probably 9% or more and the vehicle license tax is also pretty high in CA. However, you should still be $3000-5000K less than sticker OTD.

As long as the person making the deal is happy, that's all that matters.Everyone values deals differently. I am not trying to make an apples to apples comparison, as there are too many variables.
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Old 03-05-2014, 12:06 PM   #14 (permalink)
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After getting nowhere with Midway Chevrolet and Sands Chevrolet locally over the last four weeks on pricing for both a Duramax and a Tahoe, I finally contacted Dave Smith Motors in Kellogg, Idaho last night for the Tahoe only. They were quick to cut to the chase and give me a price and very courteous and professional on the phone.

Basically, on a loaded 2015 Tahoe with MSRP of $68k+ they were giving me a sales price of about $63k+. They said that their invoice was $64k+, they were giving me most of the holdback at $1500 ($2000 minus $500), they had some fees of around $390, and some window tint and paint sealant for around $300.

I really appreciated how quickly Dave Smith Motors responded and gave me the cost breakdown. My primary issue with the deal is that GM isn't offering any money back, which I think needs to be at least $2500-4000. I am also not sure that the invoice price is that high, I would have expected in to be $60-62K and not $64k. I'll have to research that more. Dave Smith does offer some discounts if you are with Farm Bureau (possibly Farmers if I am mistaken) or USAA insurance.

I am highly disappointed in the responses I have gotten from Midway Chevrolet and Sands Chevrolet, especially when I told them I was prepared to spend $110,000 to get the Duramax and Tahoe I am after. I can't even get basic pricing and they don't even seem to care to make a counter offer to my offer. Whether it is a loaded Duramax or Tahoe, these are worth approximately $52-56K all day long depending upon exact options. I have gotten those type of deals on the last 8 vehicles I have owned in the last 27 years. That included new models just hitting the dealer lots.

Bottom line for me is that, if GM doesn't get serious and get their prices in line with competitors, for the first time in my life I will go shopping for a Ram. My Dad and brother have pulled great deals on three new Rams from Aberdeen Chrysler in Aberdeen South Dakota. Much like Dave Smith Motors, you work a deal on the phone in short order and they will deliver the vehicle right to your door. My Dad lives 8 hours from them and has never seen the dealership and spent about $110k on a well equipped 3/4 ton and a loaded 1 ton dually, both diesels.

Wake up GM, we bailed your sorry arses out. How about rewarding our loyalty with some competitive deals.
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Yeah, around there.

Looking back at my sales papers, my dually was $51,058 sticker. I was OTD $48,660.
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Yeah, around there.

Looking back at my sales papers, my dually was $51,058 sticker. I was OTD $48,660.

That's the kind of deal I am after and I have have routinely gotten before.

Our sales taxes and vehicle license taxes are around 10-11% depending upon where the dealer is located. The one way to reduce that is by trading, so the sales tax is less the trade. So even if you get a middle of the road price for the trade you end up with a pretty decent OTD price.

I know I will get there when the inventory gets strong and the 14s are flushed out. I hope it is isn't 6 months or I may lose my patience.

I normally keep a vehicle between 4 and 5 years, it will be 9 years in May for my Duramax and 8 years in August for the Tahoe. My Duramax is still awesome in all respects, so I'll hate to see it go in some ways - but somebody will end up with a nice rig for a decent price.

The Tahoe has never been mechanically an issue, but I have a pile of cosmetic issues inside and out. Many of the control faces and door handles are peeling; the paint on the plastic trim is faded and peeling, the dash is cracked, the vinyl on the center console is cracked, one of the third row seat latches is broken, the leather is stiff as a board and never did soften up after use, etc. Some of this was fixed once under warranty, but occurred again, some happened after warranty and they would not fix it. They should knock off another $5000K just to make up for that crap.
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That's the kind of deal I am after and I have have routinely gotten before.

Our sales taxes and vehicle license taxes are around 10-11% depending upon where the dealer is located. The one way to reduce that is by trading, so the sales tax is less the trade. So even if you get a middle of the road price for the trade you end up with a pretty decent OTD price.

I know I will get there when the inventory gets strong and the 14s are flushed out. I hope it is isn't 6 months or I may lose my patience.

I normally keep a vehicle between 4 and 5 years, it will be 9 years in May for my Duramax and 8 years in August for the Tahoe. My Duramax is still awesome in all respects, so I'll hate to see it go in some ways - but somebody will end up with a nice rig for a decent price.

The Tahoe has never been mechanically an issue, but I have a pile of cosmetic issues inside and out. Many of the control faces and door handles are peeling; the paint on the plastic trim is faded and peeling, the dash is cracked, the vinyl on the center console is cracked, one of the third row seat latches is broken, the leather is stiff as a board and never did soften up after use, etc. Some of this was fixed once under warranty, but occurred again, some happened after warranty and they would not fix it. They should knock off another $5000K just to make up for that crap.
Having a tire shop for 20 years....I don't like it at all when a person comes in and tries to TELL me how much their tires should cost. So, I don't "haggle" with my dealership. I know they are giving me the best price for everyone concerned. I never expect anyone to LOSE money on a deal.

As I mentioned earlier, as long as I am right around or BELOW sticker OTD, I am pretty happy. The dealer I deal with spends ALOT with my wife (sales manager of a local TV station). Therefore, since they put money in MY pockets, I have no problem putting some in THEIRS.

Back to holding on to vehicles - I started out similarly at the 5 year or so mark. Then I really liked my last dually and ended up keeping it for 9 years. So, from now on, I ORDER my vehicles. Unless they just happen to have EXACTLY what I want on the lot - I get the same price whether I order or buy from inventory. So, I might as well order specifically the vehicle(s) I want. Especially since I will KEEP it for a decade or so.
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Axe if you can you may want to hold off for a few month unless your really looking for something specific I just bought my 2014 sierra and due to the 2015 already in production I was able to get some good discounts on my truck was a 58K truck walked out the door 50K with everything, still pricey but they weren't budging on 2015 I didn't want one even if they did budge the Tahoe's, Yukon's look good but the new 2500's look like a superduty front end and a big bulky interior I love my SLT interior, anyway good luck finding what you want theyre out there
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Yeah, I am not going to get in a real hurry unless I sell my truck or the wife's Tahoe locally. At that point, I may swallow my pride and pay a higher price.

I would work a deal on a 2014, but I did not care for the interior of the 2007-14s due to cheap materials and lack of seating comfort. That has kept me in these two vehicles nearly twice as long as I would have normally kept them.

Prices will come correct when the lots fill up. I travel a lot for work, so I can end up getting a vehicle most anywhere in the Western US and be back home with it in short order if it is the right deal.
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The dealers around here seem to have a lot of the 15 Tahoes showing up and plenty of 14s still lying around. I see they are already offering 3.9% financing to get them moving. I can't see too many people buying them at this $65-70 price, without some rebate cash.

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