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Old 12-31-2010, 11:24 AM   #1 (permalink)
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gm no longer american?!?!! WTH

i heard that gm has plans in the works to move production oversees. has anyone heard more about it? how would feel about driving a non american truck? idk about all you guys, but if gm goes oversees i have purchased my last gm...i love my 2010 3500hd, and the duramax is the best motor...but ill have to start driving an american truck, as much as i hate to say it, id look at fords. the powerstroke blows, yet it is american. i want to know what everyone thinks and feels about this, and what do you all know about it?

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Old 12-31-2010, 03:57 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I think you had too much eggnog at xmas or started early for new years eve. There are a bunch of gm haters out there.

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Old 12-31-2010, 04:34 PM   #3 (permalink)
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As it stands now, there's more "American" in my Komatsu and Volvo equipment, than there is in my GM trucks. What's the big deal about GM moving? The current Gov't and all the previous generations have made it conducive for all manufacturers to build elsewhere, and, so long as that continues, Gm may have to build overseas to survive.

What I'm getting at is that you need to be mad at Uncle Sam for not raising trade barriers and tariffs to ensure that businesses stay here.

It's almost as if all the politicians have stakes in foreign countries and foreign corporations.

**** free trade. It costs more to build here because we have a higher standard of living (among other things such as better quality of life due to "some" EPA regulation enforcement). You wanna build something overseas that we can build here, you should have to overcome high trade barries to do business here, period.
Don't think that for a moments that there aren't high tarriffs on american built products that are sold in China, Japan, Asia, etc....
BUT, we are so deep into foreign dependence that you can't just turn it off or around, just like that.
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Old 12-31-2010, 04:38 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Going overseas is the fastest way to get rid of the overpayed uaw workers and start making a profit.
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Old 12-31-2010, 11:23 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Ford's new 6.7L Powerstroke diesel engine is made in Mexico.
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Old 01-02-2011, 06:00 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Woah there not everything on the internet is true. It is if you believe it. After what has just happened with GM in the past couple of years, moving production would be a dumb idea. No way would it make sense to build plants overseas when they can re-tool and refubish factories that they have owned for 50, 60, heck 70+ years. Just about every US market car is made in the US or Canada, maybe even a couple in Mexico. Same goes for their powertrains. The Duramax may have been a GM/Isuzu thing but the motors are built here. After being bailed out by the USA, and repaying back those loans in stride, GM has alot in my opinion indebted to the American people and its workforce.
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Indebted < In Debt.

I believe in Capitalism, so it often makes sense to go where the cheap labor is. And, while I think Free Trade is right, in principle, heymccall is right in stating that other countries practice Protectionism quite readily against the US.

GM already builds trucks in Canada & Mexico. That will likely continue, as will compact car importing. You can fit a lot more of those kei-car imitators on a ship than you could 3500DRWs.

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i know some....

i know some of everything comes from oversees, i just hate to think that the majoritiy of the truck could be forgien, i consider canada and mexico apart of america, albe it North American. i hate Toyota, i think the usa should make a 50% import tax on goods, and lower the export tax, but that screws the world up. make it easier for american companies while not ticing off the forgien ones. we should protect our GM and Ford but GM needs to stay in the good old USA if they want me to buy trucks from them, its that simple, i refuse to buy any forgien vehicles. trucks inculded. Gm was born in America and should stay American. sell overseas sure, import some parts okay, but build the product here. I can agree that the Union workers are overpaid, work it out, or simply hire non union, most of it is done by robots these days anyway. the duramax to the best of my knowlege is currently build in canada, to me thats okay. The truck is assembled in the USA. Lets keep it this way. Would any of you buy a toyota? The issue is the government, clearly, yet the system is broken, and idk how it can be fixed, all i know is whenever i have a choice i buy Made in the USA, even if it means spending a little more money, because i know the extra money will stay in america!
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Ford's new 6.7L Powerstroke diesel engine is made in Mexico.
fords "american fully in-house" engine is made in mexico and our "japanese" engine is made in usa, lolz.

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