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Old 01-07-2011, 11:12 AM   #11 (permalink)
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fords "american fully in-house" engine is assembled in mexico and our "japanese" engine is assembled in the usa, lolz.
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Old 01-07-2011, 03:35 PM   #12 (permalink)
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the only things that come from japan on our engine are the raw head, crank, and rod castings. When I say "raw" I mean raw, like the cranks dont have any journals machines on them, the rod caps havent been split, and the heads dont have any bolt holes drilled in them. The pistons are from Federal Mogul.

Everything else is balanced, machined, assembled, blocks cast in the US, everything else cast, and tested here in Ohio. And when I say tested, I mean actually hot tested. Every single duramax engine that comes off the line is started and ran on a dyno to check for rated power output, dynamic compression, temperatures, leaks, and oil pressure.

Ford and Dodge (cummins) dont do that. All they do is spin the rotating assembly cold with an electric motor and say "ummmkay we got oil pressure, ship it".

You say the ford is just "assembled" down south. I didnt know ford made all of their engine parts here in the US and then shipped them down to mehheeco to just be bolted together.

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Old 01-07-2011, 04:42 PM   #13 (permalink)
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the only things that come from japan on our engine are the raw head, crank, and rod castings. When I say "raw" I mean raw, like the cranks dont have any journals machines on them, the rod caps havent been split, and the heads dont have any bolt holes drilled in them. The pistons are from Federal Mogul.

Everything else is balanced, machined, assembled, blocks cast in the US, everything else cast, and tested here in Ohio. And when I say tested, I mean actually hot tested. Every single duramax engine that comes off the line is started and ran on a dyno to check for rated power output, dynamic compression, temperatures, leaks, and oil pressure.

Ford and Dodge (cummins) dont do that. All they do is spin the rotating assembly cold with an electric motor and say "ummmkay we got oil pressure, ship it".

You say the ford is just "assembled" down south. I didnt know ford made all of their engine parts here in the US and then shipped them down to mehheeco to just be bolted together.

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Ben.....the guy's a TROLL. Doesn't know squat and loves to show his ignorance whenever he can.
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Old 01-10-2011, 01:37 PM   #14 (permalink)
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the 2012 Chevy Sonic (replaces Aveo) will be built in Lake Orion, MI
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GM is not moving truck production overseas, or anything else for that matter. Silly internet rumor at best.

Oh, and Isuzu is leaving the D-max JV....so we can quit hearing the "Japanese" engine crap, although it hasn't been really true for quite a while given the amount of GM development in the recent iterations.
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i'm glad to hear that izuzu is gonna be off the d-max. i did read that article about gm in china, thats prob why i heard the rumor about gm moving completly overseas. it should all be Made in America! and we should all demand american everything! after all this is the greatest country in the world!
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Old 01-13-2011, 01:33 PM   #17 (permalink)
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i'm glad to hear that izuzu is gonna be off the d-max.
Why? They gave us a pretty darn good diesel engine if you ask me. Americans have made some pretty crappy stuff in the past too.

The last american diesel engine effort to go into a GM pickup truck = 6.2/6.5
the last japanese/isuzu diesel engine effort to go into a GM pickup truck = duramax

GEE which one would 99.999995% of the people on this forum choose, if cost werent an issue. Even the most pigheaded redblooded american idiot would still choose the duramax, regardless of where half its design came from.
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What I'm getting at is that you need to be mad at Uncle Sam for not raising trade barriers and tariffs to ensure that businesses stay here....
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.... After being bailed out by the USA, and repaying back those loans in stride, GM has alot in my opinion indebted to the American people and its workforce.
So how's GM stock doing for the share holders, retirees, investors (like me), who lost 3/4 of it's value? That will never be ''paid back''. Glad I got out when I did!
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the issue is not where it was designed, its where the majority of the truck will be built. i agree the dmax is the best diesel on the market, and will prob stay as such for a long time, just check out the article in this months Diesel Power Powerstroked gets dumped on, even after the new upgrades that ford made. i'd be glad that izuzu would be off because maybe it'll be cast in America, and the jobs will stay here. it should still be the same awesome motor, what reason do they have to make any major changes?...other than maybe getting it much improved fuel milege/...
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i'd be glad that izuzu would be off because maybe it'll be cast in America, and the jobs will stay here.
the block is cast here, all final machining is done here, and complete assembly is done here. Come on, I think thats just about as "american" as you are going to get in todays global economy/production farming-out.

The cummins and powerstroke have way more foreign components than the duramax does.

If you want something that is actually truly "100% american" then build a time machine and go back ~70 years.

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