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Old 01-28-2016, 05:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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5.7 Parts engines and Transmission question

Ok so there is two 5.7 diesel engines available. I have to pull them 156.00 each one is a 78 D block with pencil injectors and the other is a 80 D block with micro poppet injectors. Both I believe have external egr single stud air cleaners but I have to look again at the 80. I want opinion if I should pull either transmission for future diesel swap projects. Transmissions are $100. One thing is I would like to put a 5.7 in my 85 Pontiac Parisienne which has a Th200 but I dont think the 5.7 will bolt up theres a 305 in it now. Should I take one or both the transmissions from the diesels?

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Old 01-29-2016, 11:43 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Did you look and see which transmissions they had? A lot of the early diesels had 200's. In the 78 Cadillac service manual the 200 section was actually called the diesel transmission. Same car with the 350 gas got a 400. 350 diesel got a 200. So if Cadillac got 200's I would think an 88 could have had em too. Nice thing in that era the pans said Metric on em for the 200's.

Intake full of snow does not seem like a good thing.

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Did you look and see which transmissions they had? A lot of the early diesels had 200's. In the 78 Cadillac service manual the 200 section was actually called the diesel transmission. Same car with the 350 gas got a 400. 350 diesel got a 200. So if Cadillac got 200's I would think an 88 could have had em too. Nice thing in that era the pans said Metric on em for the 200's.

Intake full of snow does not seem like a good thing.
Didnt check the transmissions. Since dec 2nd do you think there could be pitting from rust or refreeze damage? I want to go pull the 82 on Tuesday with the transmission.
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Old 01-30-2016, 09:47 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I would be worried about the snow melting and getting into cylinders then sticking rings. At least it should not be real bad if its recent but you would want to tear it down or get it running pretty quick. We have had enough mild days that if that engine got any sun it could have melted.
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95 Burb K25 3.73's CRASHED 250K miles, looks to have been rebuilt at least once, stock, bad rust, DE exhaust w/walker muffler, 8' western plow.
81 Buick Riviera GAVE AWAY with the infamous Olds 5.7 diesel possibly still going strong.
15 VW Golf wagon, TDI. Did the buyback on my 13 Jetta TDI wagon so it was basically a trade up.
96 Burb K25 3.42's SOLD at 340K miles, told it was all original, close race between engine wearing out or body completely rust out.
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Well its definitely warm enough today. I may pass and buy truck parts.
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85 Cadillac Deville factory 4.3 Oldsmobile Diesel
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Looks like a pick & pull yard.
Cars sitting on the rims of those wheels always gives me pause when removing parts/
The least you want to do is pull the converters from the transmissions. My guess is there 200C `s. (unless replaced)
As far as the snow goes, before it for sure thaws, remove the air cross-over, vacuum as much out as much snow as you can. With a small flashlight and mirror look forward and to the rear down both sides of the manifold for evidence of ice or snow. If there was a thaw, and snow melted, the water would tend to flow to the rear of the intake. Remove either the glow plugs or injectors (both better) Warm the engine slowly, rotate engine by hand to see what you got!! Squirt a little fuel in each cylinder if you like.
Price is right, labor sucks
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Kinda sucks that some dork looking for carbs likely pulled that air cleaner off and possibly wrecked a possibly decent motor and then could not be bothered to put the cover back on. Also a sign that the yard just does not give a crap.
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15 VW Golf wagon, TDI. Did the buyback on my 13 Jetta TDI wagon so it was basically a trade up.
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Kinda sucks that some dork looking for carbs likely pulled that air cleaner off and possibly wrecked a possibly decent motor and then could not be bothered to put the cover back on. Also a sign that the yard just does not give a crap.

You are totally "Right on" !!
There are several pick and pull yards in my area, they base there pricing on core charge, and or, weight. They could give a crap on condition, application, or customer convenience. In my area, they have a listing posted with most all components, ie. Engine= $125.00 Transmission=$100.00 Driveshaft=$25.00
Doesn`t matter what it`s from, all the same. I removed several pieces of plastic trim material last time I visited to pull a TH2004R, The trim was $1.00 a foot, the pieces I removed were door panels, dash bezel, A pillar trim. The guy at the counter shrugged his shoulders and said (asked) FIVE BUCKS O.K.?
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I think there are people that make their living 'flipping' pick n pull parts.
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95 Burb K25 3.73's CRASHED 250K miles, looks to have been rebuilt at least once, stock, bad rust, DE exhaust w/walker muffler, 8' western plow.
81 Buick Riviera GAVE AWAY with the infamous Olds 5.7 diesel possibly still going strong.
15 VW Golf wagon, TDI. Did the buyback on my 13 Jetta TDI wagon so it was basically a trade up.
96 Burb K25 3.42's SOLD at 340K miles, told it was all original, close race between engine wearing out or body completely rust out.
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I think there are people that make their living 'flipping' pick n pull parts.
I dont but I did strip a 6.5 when I was there. Umm all 8 injector lines $5 which is what they charger for a "fuel rail" good deal.

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