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**JCDiesel** · 04-02-2014, 08:04 PM

Going to look at a 85 caddy with a 4.3 in about an hour. Any advice as to things to pay attention to other than the normal would be appreciated! Thanks

**smackzed** · 04-02-2014, 08:53 PM

Ahh that's just a converted gas engine....junk

Now I see why you have the tow dolly on the sub

**JCDiesel** · 04-02-2014, 09:05 PM

Isn't it a 5.7 with 2 cylinders chopped off basically?

**JCDiesel** · 04-02-2014, 09:07 PM

GF wants it so trying to stay positive here. Plus just drove quite a bit to get it. Almost th ere. It has brand new tires so that's a plus. Not for a daily driver but more of a novelty.

**smackzed** · 04-02-2014, 09:23 PM

Whoa...you got a girlfriend who WANTS you to buy it???? I didn't know they existed

**JCDiesel** · 04-02-2014, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by smackzed

Whoa...you got a girlfriend who WANTS you to buy it???? I didn't know they existed

Bugging me for 2 weeks fir this car

57diesel · 04-03-2014, 03:45 PM

As a novelty and if its cheap and seems solid it may be worth it. I have looked at a few but they wanted too much and I really already had too many cars.

It is kinda a 5.7 with 2 cylinders missing. I believe the regular V6 was actually that. The transverse ones I think were better. Those had a different head bolt layout and several other improvements along with the different overall layout and mounts the transverse mounting required. If they would have got around to applying those improvements to the 5.7 they would have likely had a good engine.

They made a lot of changes to the electronics for 85 so I have heard there are some modules and such that are very hard to come by. Same thing for the V6 specific parts, there were never tons of them out there so not much reproduced. V6 diesel in a Cadillac was very rare being a one year only thing.

And to Smakzed, Really? A gas engine? I expect to hear that from people that don't know anything about diesels but someone who apparently has diesel experience? Yes there were issues and some of them related to them trying to use existing parts from the gas engines but it was far from a converted gas engine. The were a lot heavier than the gas engines. Used bigger main and rod bearings, had to have a place for the injection pump and drive. IF you are building a diesel engine to fit in cars seems like making it about the same size as the gas engines and using the same mounts as the gas engines may be a good idea? Same idea with the 6.2, they shared a lot of basic dimensions with the gas engines because they wanted an easy fit in the trucks.

**smackzed** · 04-03-2014, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 57diesel

And to Smakzed, Really? A gas engine? I expect to hear that from people that don't know anything about diesels but someone who apparently has diesel experience? Yes there were issues and some of them related to them trying to use existing parts from the gas engines but it was far from a converted gas engine. The were a lot heavier than the gas engines. Used bigger main and rod bearings, had to have a place for the injection pump and drive. IF you are building a diesel engine to fit in cars seems like making it about the same size as the gas engines and using the same mounts as the gas engines may be a good idea? Same idea with the 6.2, they shared a lot of basic dimensions with the gas engines because they wanted an easy fit in the trucks.

It was a joke. I think JC got it

My jokes have been falling flat lately

57diesel · 04-03-2014, 11:13 PM

Ahh.... Guess that is what I get for not hanging around the 6.2 section more.

So the real question is did he get it?

**JCDiesel** · 04-04-2014, 06:37 AM

Yep got it.

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57diesel Diesel Veteran Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: St. Paul/Minneapolis MN USA Posts: 5,411 iTrader Score: 0 reviews	As a novelty and if its cheap and seems solid it may be worth it. I have looked at a few but they wanted too much and I really already had too many cars. It is kinda a 5.7 with 2 cylinders missing. I believe the regular V6 was actually that. The transverse ones I think were better. Those had a different head bolt layout and several other improvements along with the different overall layout and mounts the transverse mounting required. If they would have got around to applying those improvements to the 5.7 they would have likely had a good engine. They made a lot of changes to the electronics for 85 so I have heard there are some modules and such that are very hard to come by. Same thing for the V6 specific parts, there were never tons of them out there so not much reproduced. V6 diesel in a Cadillac was very rare being a one year only thing. And to Smakzed, Really? A gas engine? I expect to hear that from people that don't know anything about diesels but someone who apparently has diesel experience? Yes there were issues and some of them related to them trying to use existing parts from the gas engines but it was far from a converted gas engine. The were a lot heavier than the gas engines. Used bigger main and rod bearings, had to have a place for the injection pump and drive. IF you are building a diesel engine to fit in cars seems like making it about the same size as the gas engines and using the same mounts as the gas engines may be a good idea? Same idea with the 6.2, they shared a lot of basic dimensions with the gas engines because they wanted an easy fit in the trucks. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter Add this post to your Facebook Profile Add this post to MySpace Stumble this Post! Google Bookmark this Post! Live Bookmark this Post! Diaric, jnlperformance and johnH123 like this. __________________ 98 Burb K25 4.10's 250K miles, new to me, pretty clean and stock. 95 Burb K25 3.73's CRASHED 250K miles, looks to have been rebuilt at least once, stock, bad rust, DE exhaust w/walker muffler, 8' western plow. 81 Buick Riviera GAVE AWAY with the infamous Olds 5.7 diesel possibly still going strong. 15 VW Golf wagon, TDI. Did the buyback on my 13 Jetta TDI wagon so it was basically a trade up. 96 Burb K25 3.42's SOLD at 340K miles, told it was all original, close race between engine wearing out or body completely rust out.
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57diesel Diesel Veteran Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: St. Paul/Minneapolis MN USA Posts: 5,411 iTrader Score: 0 reviews	Ahh.... Guess that is what I get for not hanging around the 6.2 section more. So the real question is did he get it? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter Add this post to your Facebook Profile Add this post to MySpace Stumble this Post! Google Bookmark this Post! Live Bookmark this Post! __________________ 98 Burb K25 4.10's 250K miles, new to me, pretty clean and stock. 95 Burb K25 3.73's CRASHED 250K miles, looks to have been rebuilt at least once, stock, bad rust, DE exhaust w/walker muffler, 8' western plow. 81 Buick Riviera GAVE AWAY with the infamous Olds 5.7 diesel possibly still going strong. 15 VW Golf wagon, TDI. Did the buyback on my 13 Jetta TDI wagon so it was basically a trade up. 96 Burb K25 3.42's SOLD at 340K miles, told it was all original, close race between engine wearing out or body completely rust out.
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