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Old 05-05-2010, 11:47 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I was debating on getting a used GMC 2500HD Extended Cab, but from all the enhancements of the 2011, and hopefully I can get an employee discount number + rebates, it may be best to purchase a new one.

I'm interested in the Extended Cab so it will be sometime in August, which would be great timing for me because both my existing truck and car will have to sell first. That will be my down payment money

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Old 05-05-2010, 03:33 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Ive seen two at the Ford dealer here in Southwest Missouri south of springfield. They have had them for a month now and Ford motor co. was there to help release them.

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Old 05-05-2010, 07:06 PM   #23 (permalink)
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The local ford dealership has two and they haven't sold one yet. I also just saw that someone dynoed a new 6.7 and it put 310 to the ground. For some reason I think the lmm put more to the ground than that but I am not sure.
310rwhp stock???

i think the LMM put 310 or 315 to the ground stock ( i may be wrong) but that is sad for ford if thats all they put down being rated at becuase they put alot of money and time in that motor and their still 3yrs behind the dmax now say the new LML put down 340rwhp stock then that would be quite impressive compared to the ford
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check out this stuff on the torque vid..... http://www.fordvehicles.com/2011Supe...uel-efficiency do yall notice anything funny about this vid? and i know our trucks are alot quicker than this
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I was told today that we should see the first transport full of LML's in the beginning of july
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check out this stuff on the torque vid..... http://www.fordvehicles.com/2011Supe...uel-efficiency do yall notice anything funny about this vid? and i know our trucks are alot quicker than this
I notice 2 things in that video. 1st, the dodge apparently didn't have any oil pressure. 2nd, the Ford was accelerating through the starting line whereas the others were steady at 30 prior to the start. And it would appear that they chose 30 mph to make sure the Chevy was immediately after a shift point.
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Old 05-05-2010, 11:10 PM   #27 (permalink)
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I notice 2 things in that video. 1st, the dodge apparently didn't have any oil pressure. 2nd, the Ford was accelerating through the starting line whereas the others were steady at 30 prior to the start. And it would appear that they chose 30 mph to make sure the Chevy was immediately after a shift point.

i didnt notice the speed thing, but i do now thx but what i noticed was the tow haul was off on the duramax witch i think makes pulling a trailer slower ( to me) and on the ford by the rpm's the tow haul had to be on
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on the trailer sway test I guarantee they shut off the silverado's stabilitrak, which has been available since 2009. Dodge still doesnt have any form of electronic stability control, and Ford didnt get it until 2011!!

OK NO, sorry ford, the 2009-2010 stabilitrak isnt directly marketed/intended to control trailer sway like the 2011 silverado's stabilitrak is designed for, but STILL...if they had left stabilitrak on for that "fair" test, I guarantee it would have controlled trailer sway better. Not as well as the ford (because like I said, the 2009-2010 stabilitrak on the GM HD trucks was only designed to properly control a truck alone), but It would have done better than fords test would have suggested.

and how the ford engineer says "nope, not offered on chevy or dodge!!". If he really wanted to be fair and not sit there yapping like a fat hillbilly, he SHOULD have said "well the silverado does have electronic stability control (they had it 2 years before ford did), but it does not incorporate trailer sway control technology". That would have been perfect...tells the truth, but also, to keep ford happy, makes it look like they still have the edge.

Trailer sway control and stability control are like brother and sister...for ford to say "the 2010 silverado does not have anything like this" is retarded.

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on the trailer sway test I guarantee they shut off the silverado's stabilitrak, which has been available since 2009. Dodge still doesnt have any form of electronic stability control, and Ford didnt get it until 2011!!

OK NO, sorry ford, the 2009-2010 stabilitrak isnt directly marketed/intended to control trailer sway like the 2011 silverado's stabilitrak is designed for, but STILL...if they had left stabilitrak on for that "fair" test, I guarantee it would have controlled trailer sway better. Not as well as the ford (because like I said, the 2009-2010 stabilitrak on the GM HD trucks was only designed to properly control a truck alone), but It would have done better than fords test would have suggested.

and how the ford engineer says "nope, not offered on chevy or dodge!!". If he really wanted to be fair and not sit there yapping like a fat hillbilly, he SHOULD have said "well the silverado does have electronic stability control (they had it 2 years before ford did), but it does not incorporate trailer sway control technology". That would have been perfect...tells the truth, but also, to keep ford happy, makes it look like they still have the edge.

Trailer sway control and stability control are like brother and sister...for ford to say "the 2010 silverado does not have anything like this" is retarded.

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Ben, I will correct you a little bit. Even with Stabilitrak on, the vehicle would have behaved the same way. The trailer oscililating does not generate enough lateral acceleration make Stabilitrak active. I would say this testing is legit but, I'm sure they won't compare 2011 vs. 2011. I would hope that Chevy marketing does.

Trailer sway is one of those systems that is not real fun to test or calibrate.

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Old 05-06-2010, 03:55 PM   #30 (permalink)
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My LML is on Order

My Preliminary Order Detail was pulled on 4/29/10.

Crew cab Long bed.

Like others said before, you can order, you just cant get a price on it yet.....

I will have a Clean Sweet 2008 3/4 Ton Suburban up 4 sale as soon as i get a delivery date on the Pick up.

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