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Old 03-10-2010, 06:30 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Old 03-10-2010, 07:11 PM   #12 (permalink)
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DEF is IMO, one of the worst things GM could do. Atleast the DPF is designed to be left alone.

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DEF is IMO, one of the worst things GM could do. Atleast the DPF is designed to be left alone.
Shirley, you haven't been under a rock that long, have you? SCR emissions control is NOT GM's brain child. Nor is it in it's infancy, either.
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Old 03-10-2010, 11:40 PM   #14 (permalink)
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DEF is one of the best things, IMO. Its the reason the new trucks are going to get insane fuel economy while having over 100 extra ft lbs of torque on tap. You can have your cake and eat it to with the new LML's..
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Shirley, you haven't been under a rock that long, have you? SCR emissions control is NOT GM's brain child. Nor is it in it's infancy, either.
I know its not GM's idea, but Dodge met the emissions requirements without it. I don't know about Ford with the new 6.7.
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I know its not GM's idea, but Dodge met the emissions requirements without it. I don't know about Ford with the new 6.7.
yeah the dodge is also 50 less hp and 100 less ft lbs.

If the new dmax was derated to dodge power levels I bet it wouldnt need DEF.

The cab/chassis dodge's DO have DEF. Only the pickup trucks use the "$pecial" catalytic converter. So what does that mean? They get the same crappy fuel economy the 07-09 trucks did because they have to regen 3 times as often as the DEF-equipped trucks do...

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Looks like the heavy duty pickup trucks are no longer sensible to drive for the average joe who doesn't really need them.
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