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Old 11-08-2019, 01:43 PM  
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stock fuel filter question. Need help A.S.A.P !!!!

First let me apologize if this has been covered before. I am also new to the diesel world LOL
I have searched on here and haven't found exactly what i am looking for.

I have just bought a 1994 Chevy C3500 HD rollback with 125,000 miles on it
the previous owner has completely removed the stock fuel filter set up on top of the engine all that is left are the plugs.
They have just ran a fuel line from engine to the lift pump.
What would you recommend i do???
I do not think it would be smart to find and replace stock setup with fear they took of do to electrical issue
Thank you in advance for the help !!!!

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Replacing the stock Fuel filter manager would be a smart choice.
Considering your location you will need the fuel heater for the winter months.
You can also look into a Racor fuel filter setup with the fuel heater and water in fuel sensor.

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Replacing the stock Fuel filter manager would be a smart choice.
Considering your location you will need the fuel heater for the winter months.
You can also look into a Racor fuel filter setup with the fuel heater and water in fuel sensor.
Thank you for your reply
So I don't need the stock set up at all correct?
I'm very new to diesels I don't even know we're to start with looking for a new fuel filter set up lines sizes fitting and all.
I would guess install under the hood would be the best bet for warmth and easy access and all.

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Thank you for your reply
So I don't need the stock set up at all correct?
I'm very new to diesels I don't even know we're to start with looking for a new fuel filter set up lines sizes fitting and all.
I would guess install under the hood would be the best bet for warmth and easy access and all.

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The stock setup would be the simplest way to go.
You can find them on our supporting Vendor site, Rock Auto:
https://www.rockauto.com/en/parts/ac...el+filter,6200

If you purchase thru them be sure to use your 5% discount code when you order:
https://www.dieselplace.com/forum/68...13-2019-a.html
The stock setup includes the fuel heater and water in fuel sensor.

The info on how to apply the discount is within the link.

If you prefer not to go with a stock setup you can find an aftermarket filter setup like a Racor.
Just make sure that it includes the fuel heater and Water in Fuel Sensor and then you would just wire it in.
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TD-Max boost controller - Kennedy Diesel
OPS extension hose - Leroy Diesel
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The stock setup would be the simplest way to go.

You can find them on our supporting Vendor site, Rock Auto:

https://www.rockauto.com/en/parts/ac...el+filter,6200



If you purchase thru them be sure to use your 5% discount code when you order:

https://www.dieselplace.com/forum/68...13-2019-a.html

The stock setup includes the fuel heater and water in fuel sensor.



The info on how to apply the discount is within the link.



If you prefer not to go with a stock setup you can find an aftermarket filter setup like a Racor.

Just make sure that it includes the fuel heater and Water in Fuel Sensor and then you would just wire it in.
Ok thank you for all your help.
How would I go about testing the stock plugs under the hood to make sure it all works properly before I was to order the stock setup.
My fear is the old owner got rid of all original setup because of a electrical problem maybe .
But I don't know for sure if there is a problem it might all be fine im just not sure how it all works and how to properly test it all before I buy it. If it is all good then I'll just put stock setup back on it.
Again thank you for your help !!!

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Ok thank you for all your help.
How would I go about testing the stock plugs under the hood to make sure it all works properly before I was to order the stock setup.
My fear is the old owner got rid of all original setup because of a electrical problem maybe .
But I don't know for sure if there is a problem it might all be fine im just not sure how it all works and how to properly test it all before I buy it. If it is all good then I'll just put stock setup back on it.
Again thank you for your help !!!

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The best way to test the glow plugs is to remove them and individually apply 12v. to each one and watch them glow( using caution not to receive a burn injury).
The glow plugs should glow evenly. If you find any broken or not functioning properly then replace with AC/Delco brand.
Inspect the glow plug wires from the relay to each glow plug.
each wire connector should fit snug onto the glow plug and should not have any worn wire insulation or broken wires.

Test the glow plug relay.
You should have 12v going into the relay and with the help of a second person cycling the IGN key, test for 12v. from the relay to each glow plug.
You should also see the Wait to Start light on the dash with each key cycle.

If you do not see any of the above then replace the Glow Plug relay with AC/Delco brand.

Be sure to also check the FAQ page listed in red at the top of the 6.5L forum section.
It contains a lot of diagnostic and repair info and also a Parts List section of the most common part numbers needed for the vehicle.
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Diamond Eye 4" Turbo Back Exhaust w/2.5" Flo-Pro Crossover
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TD-Max boost controller - Kennedy Diesel
OPS extension hose - Leroy Diesel
Glow Plug Harness- PT Wiring Solutions
Glowshift Maxtow EGT,Boost, Fuel gauges
Boost & Fuel Pressure Bolts - Leroy Diesel
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PMD w/#9 resistor and Re-Location Kit, mounted to bumper - Leroy Diesel
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Are you asking about the stock plugs for the stock fuel manager? If so not a lot goes wrong with those especially on the truck end. Usually what happens is the sensors leak where they attach to the housing. They seal with an o ring. Sometimes the wires get damaged close to the sensors. If you are getting a new one none of those things should be a problem.
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Are you asking about the stock plugs for the stock fuel manager? If so not a lot goes wrong with those especially on the truck end. Usually what happens is the sensors leak where they attach to the housing. They seal with an o ring. Sometimes the wires get damaged close to the sensors. If you are getting a new one none of those things should be a problem.
Yes that is what I am asking about the stock plugs for the fuel filter management system want to make sure they all work correctly before I get the stock set up to put back on it.


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Old 11-10-2019, 10:54 AM  
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You could just get rid off the stock glow plug relay and get a decent relay to replace it, wire a button into the cabin for manual glowing.

As for the fuel filter, any setup that is rated for diesel fuel is enough, heater/waterinfuel sensor setup is overrated.

It is possible to get 6.5 started with only 4 working glowplugs and a good battery at -7.6 degrees Fahrenheit unless you use diesel that is not rated for the temperature.
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Going to order stock set up
What else am I missing ?
Like the t valve how does that hook up and route am I missing brackets or anything ?
Thank you so much for all the help guys it's really appreciated!!! 20191111_115121.jpg20191111_115115.jpg

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