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Old 04-02-2018, 08:36 PM  
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I am working on the 1994 K3500 6.5 diesel. Replacing ball joints.. I had the left fr

I am working on the 1994 K3500 6.5 diesel. Replacing ball joints..

I had the left front wheel bearing replaced not to awful long ago.

They screwed up. Apparently they did not get the grease cup on the half axle slid in properly and it was all folded over - which in turn ripped off the back of the seal.

Can I buy the grease cup for the half axle to replace it?

The seal does not look replaceable to me. I thought I had read before that those seals could be replaced.

By the looks of an old - half pulled apart bearing I have here - it looks like the inner seal is inside of the the inner half of the front wheel bearing on a 1994 K3500 4x4.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

My plan is to just pack the seal with grease, put it back together and run it until the bearing pukes.

On 2nd thought I may just fill the inside of the seal with caulk or The Right Stuff

But I really need the grease cup for the half axle to give it any chance of living for a while.

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Once again looking for torque specs.

Upper ball joint 4 bolts Ball joint to Knuckle 18 ft lbs.

Bearing and shield to Knuckle - 4 ea bolts 15 mm head 133 ft lbs ?

Upper ball joint 84 ft lbs

Lower ball joint 94 ft lbs.

Hub Nut 180 ft lbs.

Half axle to front differential - 6 bolts 15 mm head - Haven't found yet

Lower ball joint to steering knuckle - 4 bolts - Haven't found yet

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I'm not sure what you are referring to in first post, but second post I believe the bearing torque is 133 inch-pound, not ft-lb

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I'm not sure what you are referring to in first post, but second post I believe the bearing torque is 133 inch-pound, not ft-lb

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Has to be Foot lbs. 133 inch lbs would not be enough.

Torque specs for the 1994 K3500 and 1998 K2500 Suburban

Torque Specs for the 1994 K3500 and 1998 K2500 Suburban




Front wheel bearing to steering knuckle 133 ft lbs.




Half axle to bearing nut 35mm or 36 mm 180 Ft lbs.




Lug nuts 140 Ft lbs.




Half shaft to front differential 58 ft lbs.




outer tie rod nut 35 ft lbs




Starter bolts 35 ft lbs




turbo to exhaust 43 ft lbs




turbo drain tube 19 ft lbs




4L80E pan bolts 18 ft lbs.




Belt tensioner 37 ft lbs




alternator 18 ft lbs.
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The part I need is called the ring deflector in the book.

I called 3 stores and a dealer.

So far the only way I can get it is to buy a half axle and swap it.

In the 1994 book it is page 4C10 part #20

Is there a matching parts schematic with part numbers?

Or a description with the real O.D. and I.D. for that part. Mine is to mucked up to get an accurate measurement.

I will try getting measurements off the half axle tomorrow

If anybody has a half axle with this part in good condition, I would buy it.

Near as I can tell most half axles are returned for core charges.

I have 2 half axles off of gasser K1500's but they are smaller diameter

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4 bolts upper ball joint to control arm 18 ft lbs

Upper ball joint to steering knuckle - 75 ft lbs. Suburbans I found 85 ft lbs for the truck

caliper slider bolts - 38 ft lbs

outer tie rod end - 35 ft lbs

stabilizer bar link - 13 ft lbs

lower ball joint - 94 ft lbs.

pitman arm nut - 52 ft lbs

idler arm to center rod - 46 ft lbs

Upper A arm to frame 140 ft lbs

Lower ball joint to control arm nuts 52 ft. lbs.
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Ok, your right, the wheel bearing assembly Is 133 ft-lb, I was thinking the bearing sheilds, which I don't think the independent front suspension had.

And yeah, you'll need to order another half shaft- but here's the kicker, only GM factory ones "may" come it, no aftermarket ones do- even new ones, rebuild cores are hit and miss. I had to find one for a 1500 recently...ended up at a junk yard and pulled a busted axle out...paid more then I should have for a small part.

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Ok, your right, the wheel bearing assembly Is 133 ft-lb, I was thinking the bearing sheilds, which I don't think the independent front suspension had.

And yeah, you'll need to order another half shaft- but here's the kicker, only GM factory ones "may" come it, no aftermarket ones do- even new ones, rebuild cores are hit and miss. I had to find one for a 1500 recently...ended up at a junk yard and pulled a busted axle out...paid more then I should have for a small part.

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I've decided about my only route may be to do some measuring. Get the inside and outside diameters and make a trip to Motion Industries. If that is still what they call it. Might have to post on Facebook and ask first

If a I find a seal with the correct dimensions I think I can gut it and use it.
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Try these -
26037155 outer boot
front inner seal 15589666 seal = ACDelco 290-258 seal = National 710103
https://www.gmpartsdirect.com/auto-p...ont-axles-scat
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Try these -
26037155 outer boot
front inner seal 15589666 seal = ACDelco 290-258 seal = National 710103
https://www.gmpartsdirect.com/auto-p...ont-axles-scat
The part I am looking for would go onto part number 12. Looks kind of like a seal only no rubber

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