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Old 02-21-2016, 06:27 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Given my truck in sig, 4.56 gears 37 inch tires and a tick under 7500lbs, what would be the best turbo to use?
My truck is a trail truck/ street truck and when on the trail I'm either crawling in 4 low under 10 mph or its in 4 high foot to the floor in snow or mud.
Street driving is normal and highway it will cruise nicely at 75
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Old 02-21-2016, 10:53 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Given my truck in sig, 4.56 gears 37 inch tires and a tick under 7500lbs, what would be the best turbo to use?
My truck is a trail truck/ street truck and when on the trail I'm either crawling in 4 low under 10 mph or its in 4 high foot to the floor in snow or mud.
Street driving is normal and highway it will cruise nicely at 75


For off-road, and crawling I would think you would want a "smaller" turbo for boost on demand even at low speed, low RPM. The turbonators recommendation or like a HX35 with 14cm or ported and knife edged 12cm turbine housing. Or if boosting high and using an intercooler I would recommend the 14cm HX40 with 10-blade turbine and a low trim compressor (like 58-60mm inducer, 86mm exducer).

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Old 02-21-2016, 11:47 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Then as usual it turns into a pissing contest and if I state what my and others experience has been with that POS turbo people get defensive.
Partially your own fault if people are getting defensive due to your wording; Calling it a "POS turbo" and saying its a "waste" of money. Obviously, its still an upgrade from stock so not a waste per say. Just maybe not the most efficient way to increase performance on depending on user needs. Best to just list numbers and not your opinions. The reader will form their own opinions off the numbers and/or personal testing. With mine being a DD, mpg increases are one priority for me. 68-70mph is 2k rpm with my gearing and tire size so the *** isn't out of the picture for me yet.


It seems there is noone who has installed Heath's turbo?
For the price and coming from Heath, I'd expect some healthy gains.
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Partially your own fault if people are getting defensive due to your wording; Calling it a "POS turbo" and saying its a "waste" of money. Obviously, its still an upgrade from stock so not a waste per say. Just maybe not the most efficient way to increase performance on depending on user needs. Best to just list numbers and not your opinions. The reader will form their own opinions off the numbers and/or personal testing. With mine being a DD, mpg increases are one priority for me. 68-70mph is 2k rpm with my gearing and tire size so the *** isn't out of the picture for me yet.


It seems there is noone who has installed Heath's turbo?
For the price and coming from Heath, I'd expect some healthy gains.
You probably want to axe the 12cm housing suggestions if you want to decrease cruise boost and squeeze more economy. It's almost always in boost on mine.
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I don't know of anyone who's installed Heath's turbo yet. His website claims that it'll give you a 35hp/70tq increase over stock. I don't buy into his claims because I've yet to see a dyno sheet from him proving these numbers. Also, his price is a little steep considering you can get a good HX35/HX40 or even a lightly used @TT, get a good tune, and install them for less than he's asking for the turbo alone. Just my opinion.

That's not to say that his turbo is bad however. I just haven't seen anyone who's run one nor have I seen results.
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Partially your own fault if people are getting defensive due to your wording; Calling it a "POS turbo" and saying its a "waste" of money. Obviously, its still an upgrade from stock so not a waste per say. Just maybe not the most efficient way to increase performance on depending on user needs. Best to just list numbers and not your opinions. The reader will form their own opinions off the numbers and/or personal testing. With mine being a DD, mpg increases are one priority for me. 68-70mph is 2k rpm with my gearing and tire size so the *** isn't out of the picture for me yet.


It seems there is noone who has installed Heath's turbo?
For the price and coming from Heath, I'd expect some healthy gains.



I'll consider your newbie status and leave you to your own devices.


Learn the hard way and have fun blowing your money.


That turbo has no business on a 6.5. Like stated many times it sucks down low due to the exh. housing being to big and the only reason it works at all is that the compressor is so small that it makes some boost above 2,200 rpm when the wheels finally get moving. I could never get more than 18 lbs. out of it at 3,800 rpm and max fueling.


That turbo is a total mismatch on both ends, good luck with your search and if you try the [email protected] you won't feel bad because you haven't had anything but a stock turbo to compare it to so it would be like having suck light compared to totally sucks which is what the stocker is but you may like it.


Tom, Jim, Jeff and others will attest that there are better turbos out there. It's not the worst turbo out there, stock takes that honor.




P.S. sorry about the wording, just getting the truth out one post at a time.


I don't know why I even care because it's your money and there are enough threads out there to help you not make that mistake so maybe you are purposely stirring the pot, I don't know or care anymore.


Go buy an [email protected] and post your results for all to see, then maybe they can sell a 1000 more of them.
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You probably want to axe the 12cm housing suggestions if you want to decrease cruise boost and squeeze more economy. It's almost always in boost on mine.

I agree 14/16 is ideal on the hot side depending on use. It would depend on what size compressor is being used also.


1/2 lbs. at cruise [55/60] is ideal as you want to have some boost especially if towing or climbing a grade and not lugging waiting for the boost to come up.


When towing my camper I would set cruising boost running around 8/10 lbs. cruising and always had power on tap and didn't have to downshift to pull hills even at 70 mph.
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Old 02-22-2016, 03:06 AM   #68 (permalink)
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I spoke the truth on everything I posted in this thread.


I as well as Jeff, Jim and Tom and others here have only tried to put out the facts on what can be done to improve the 6.5 community.


We also have called each other out when the results are questionable. I'm calling you out.


There will always be something left on the table so to speak and what you have spoken of is of no consequence to the OP.


If high IATs are his biggest problems than he is still using a stock turbo and his EGTs are even higher.


Maybe if you contribute some meaningful info for the OP such as what is the best turbo that he should run and explain why and what is involved in doing so to make it work you could make his life easier.


Then you could back it up with data of your own to prove it.


Then he wouldn't have to read through all the turbo threads.


I could tell him what turbo to use and save him the time, but that would defeat the purpose of having to learn and make a choice for himself after seeing all the DATA, and the pros and cons of each choice.


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If you can tell him then just ficking tell him.

Screwing around playing games is a waste of time. Not everybody has unlimitied time to do the extra research. If you had time to make a reply and knew the answer to his question, then just answer the damn question,

Bunch of frickin jerks and assholes to know the answer to a question and instead of sharing the answer pretend your in frickin school or something.

If you know the answer to an asked question, just answer it - instead of telling the man to go do his homework before he goes out to play.

Maybe his hours are maxed out already. I remember when I was working as many as 26 hours straight and I had somebody tell me I had to check around for something - if they had been close, I would have caved their head in. Frickin pricks and idiots
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What is your gearing and tire size, because normally burbs came with 3.73s or even 4.10s, and relatively shorter tires than trucks. And are you running an upgraded PCM?
WOW, normal question and in a polite tone in this thread. You KNOW I don't mean you 94C1500. You have kept this civilized through out the thread and I thank you for the respect. I have 3.42 gears in my Sub with 235/85 tires. I live in a rural area and have no need to spin my tires or accelerate like an animal for the hell of it. Highway mileage and occasional towing are what I bought a new turbo for. I have not bought a new tune yet but want to this year. Unlike others, I will ask about other people's tunes and listen with a POLITE and OPEN mind.

EDIT: I plan on using a scanner to read my IAT temps this Summer to see whether to get water injection or water/air intercooler. YES, I will be happy to share the data when I have it
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If you can tell him then just ficking tell him.

Screwing around playing games is a waste of time. Not everybody has unlimitied time to do the extra research. If you had time to make a reply and knew the answer to his question, then just answer the damn question,

Bunch of frickin jerks and assholes to know the answer to a question and instead of sharing the answer pretend your in frickin school or something.

If you know the answer to an asked question, just answer it - instead of telling the man to go do his homework before he goes out to play.

Maybe his hours are maxed out already. I remember when I was working as many as 26 hours straight and I had somebody tell me I had to check around for something - if they had been close, I would have caved their head in. Frickin pricks and idiots


First off you need to get back on your meds and stop cussing. That only shows us you have nothing positive to contribute to the OP's question.


Second the info he stated originally wasn't enough to just come out and recommend the best turbo for his needs.


Third if you think back to when you got your 6.5 did you learn anything before modifying or just come on the board and have someone do everything for you.


It's better to make some decisions for yourself after doing some research on your own to see what is really best for you. It's best for anyone to find actual data if they can. There are many videos on youtube and elsewhere of 6.5 trucks and burbs running various turbos and combos.


There are also many threads on here with many different combos, gears trans, tire height, exhaust, towing light/heavy or not at all.


GET MY DRIFT....


How many sheep have bought a turbo or other part just to be let down because they didn't do some research before taking the plunge.

If I told him what turbo to run without getting the full background on what his plans are then it could be a mistake that costs him more time and money because he would either have to live with a bad combo or do it again.


I see it all the time on the buick board where people buy a ten second turbo and then can't figure out why their car only runs 11's or 12's.


You need to have all the right parts and knowledge [tune] to get the max out of the combination you have.


Fourth the only thing that I see maxed out is your temper, get it under control or someone might cave in your head someday.


People get killed everyday because of attitudes like yours. All it takes is running into the wrong person at the wrong time. You shoot off your mouth and they shoot off your head and suddenly you're pushing up daisies.

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