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Old 12-10-2016, 11:58 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Anyone from France?

There is someone from France posted in the 'other GM section' with a 5.7 diesel and is having injection pump issues and is having trouble finding parts or someone that can service em. Since us older truck people don't tend to venture out of our usual sections thought it may be worth asking here since the 6.2 and 5.7 were not much different. I'm sure he would appreciate any leads anyone can give him. He said he has had the car for 28 years and hates to get rid if it because a IP issue.

I'm sure Bosch dominates Europe but seems like some Stanadyne stuff had to make it over there.

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Since us older truck people don't tend to venture out of our usual sections thought it may be worth asking here since the 6.2 and 5.7 were not much different.
I am guilty of this, 99% of lurking and posts is in the 6.2 section, nut I have been checking the build and performance section, I try to stay anyway from performance section, I see the posts there and the wheels in my brain get spinning, saying that's cool I want to do that... maybe someday..

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Weeeellll a 6.2 and 5.7 have 3 things in common, you put oil in the pan, antifreeze in the block and it burns diesel.

The IP's are quite a bit different from each other but they can be found.

I found a coupla sketchy ones and 1 with 6 month warranty.

GM ROOSA MASTER FUEL INJECTION PUMP DB2825SH3811 2820118 5.7 CHEVY DIESEL Z | eBay


Stanadyne GM 5.7 V8 Diesel Fuel Injection Pump Assembly DB2825 PC 3742 | eBay


5.7L Chevy GM 5.7 GMC Diesel injector Injection Pump | eBay
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I know the 6.2 and 5.7 pumps are different but thought maybe someone from France may have some leads where he could look for someone to rebuild his pump. Did John Deere make it over there? What did Ford use there?
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I know the 6.2 and 5.7 pumps are different but thought maybe someone from France may have some leads where he could look for someone to rebuild his pump. Did John Deere make it over there? What did Ford use there?

Deere MADE it to the UK in the early 60`s
there`s several hundred deere dealers in France alone. My guess, there`s several independent re-builders as well. It might take some personnel effort to locate them
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Old 12-11-2016, 01:26 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Weeeellll a 6.2 and 5.7 have 3 things in common, you put oil in the pan, antifreeze in the block and it burns diesel.

The IP's are quite a bit different from each other but they can be found.

I found a coupla sketchy ones and 1 with 6 month warranty.

GM ROOSA MASTER FUEL INJECTION PUMP DB2825SH3811 2820118 5.7 CHEVY DIESEL Z | eBay


Stanadyne GM 5.7 V8 Diesel Fuel Injection Pump Assembly DB2825 PC 3742 | eBay


5.7L Chevy GM 5.7 GMC Diesel injector Injection Pump | eBay
Not to be argumentative, but I could add several things to your list. So as not to wear out my single typing finger, early-on failure of heads, head gaskets, pistons, cranks, rods. The red engine sounds very similar to the early 5.7`s.

My very first 5.7 was a 78 c10, new. Several since. Had a few 6.2`s early build, bought several early builds at auction for resale.

As for the injection pumps, a re-builder would look at them as more alike as far as design and function. ANY rebuilder that can handle a DB can do a 5.7 pump
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The pump with a 6 month warranty, also has an unspecified core charge (charge card must be on file) ???????????????????
I`ve sold cores to diesel specialists @ 150.00, so that 260.00 "rebuild"? (or re-sealed) could go to over 400.00
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Yes, there is no simple answer cause it maybe a reseal and be Ok or it might not... how bad do you want to keep driving a 5.7 in France....?


Yes, most any IP shop worth their license should be able to rebuild the IP but it depends on what happened to it. Broken input shaft is a time to get a good core and build that.
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Mine ate about 6ft of paper towel once. It idled funny for a minute, then let out one big black firey fart and smoothed right out.
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My being able to set at the computer and type is evidence that my wife has not cut off both my arms and used them to beat me into a coma, so no, I did not buy it!
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https://www.dieselplace.com/forum/63...ht-turn-3.html
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A couple oddities here. First, NEW discussions in the 5.7 forum !! Second, 2 Cadillac`s, a 79. and a 80, both with fuel distribution problems, both from the UK
Now, I "THINK" The one being discussed here is the one that sat for a few months and now won`t start. No real reason to think it`s the pump quite yet. Hard to get information from these guys, let alone any pictures
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Ya, air in the fuel system....

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Mine ate about 6ft of paper towel once. It idled funny for a minute, then let out one big black firey fart and smoothed right out.
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My being able to set at the computer and type is evidence that my wife has not cut off both my arms and used them to beat me into a coma, so no, I did not buy it!
Post up pics of your carnage!!!! and timing ....Click Here
To bleed or find an air leak, simply, here’s a few different ways..
https://www.dieselplace.com/forum/8492425-post11.html
https://www.dieselplace.com/forum/63...leak-6-2l.html
https://www.dieselplace.com/forum/63...ht-turn-3.html
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