This just happend..........
Motorcyclist Killed In Dover Crash
ADVERTISEMENT
TBO Staff Report
Published: March 1, 2008
DOVER - A motorcyclist died after his Harley Davidson slammed into a trailer being pulled by a pick-up truck last night.
Jimmy McIntosh, 38, was taken to Lakeland Regional Medical Center where he later died, the Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office reported.
The crash happened about 5 p.m. at McIntosh and Tom Gallagher roads.
According to the sheriff's office, the pick-up truck was headed south on McIntosh and slowed to make a left turn. As it was turning, McIntosh ran into the utility trailer the truck was pulling.
The truck driver, Christopher West, 50, of Louisiana, was not injured. He was cited for a right-of-way violation.
Reader Comments
Posted by ( Bulldog ) on March 1, 2008 at 8:14 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
The worst you get for turning left into oncoming traffic is a "right-of-way violation?" That is absurd. Many drivers pulling trailers forget they have extra apparatus behind them but they pull out into traffic anyway. Traffic having the right-of-way must slam their brakes because the idiot thinks he's cleared the road but still has 14 feet of trailer behind him blocking traffic. At least add "moron" to the citation.
Report Abuse
Posted by ( kmspots ) on March 1, 2008 at 8:33 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
If the cyclist would have been a passenger in the truck w/trailer and the driver violated a right of way and the passenger killed, then he would face charges of vehicular manslaughter. No justice for the cyclist. My condolences to his family.
Report Abuse
Posted by ( llk ) on March 1, 2008 at 9:16 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
RIP Rider.
If the man hauling the trailer was at fault a simple citation is a bunch of BS. To add icing to the cake, the guy isn't even from here. So sad
Report Abuse
Posted by ( anymouse ) on March 1, 2008 at 9:31 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
ever hear of defensive driving?
Report Abuse
Posted by ( loneal77 ) on March 1, 2008 at 9:57 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
My heart goes out to the family. Yes the truck driver was at fault and was careless in the mistake he made. Lets remember this was an accident, not intentional. So while a small fine may seem unjustified the guilt he will have to live with is far greater. We has human must learn to accept accidents happen and people make mistakes. Again, my heart goes out to the family of the gentelman that died. This is my opinion and I hope you respect that as I do all of yours....
Report Abuse
Posted by ( DoodleBugg ) on March 1, 2008 at 10:12 a.m.
(This comment was removed by the site staff.)
Posted by ( DoodleBugg ) on March 1, 2008 at 10:13 a.m.
(This comment was removed by the site staff.)
Posted by ( DoodleBugg ) on March 1, 2008 at 10:14 a.m.
(This comment was removed by the site staff.)
Posted by ( DoodleBugg ) on March 1, 2008 at 10:15 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
you people are flat out sad.............
Report Abuse
Posted by ( DoodleBugg ) on March 1, 2008 at 10:19 a.m.
(This comment was removed by the site staff.)
Posted by ( DoodleBugg ) on March 1, 2008 at 10:21 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
and all you Mark Lundsford worshiping pieces of crap.......
when it comes out the Truck Driver was NOT at fault........we'll see if you chime in then....
Report Abuse
Posted by ( DoodleBugg ) on March 1, 2008 at 10:22 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
and before you start your cakeholes running ...........I RIDE A MOTORCYCLE
Report Abuse
Posted by ( depdad ) on March 1, 2008 at 10:22 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
To kmspots: Vehicular manslaughter is not charged if it's just a civil violation like this one. It's extremely unfortunate that someone was killed as a result of this failure to yield. Unless the State Attorney's Office upgrades this incident to a criminal infraction instead of a civil one, there will be no vehicular manslaughter. It's a very sad situation, none the less.
Report Abuse
Posted by ( New_Business_Owner ) on March 1, 2008 at 10:29 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Very mature DoodleBugg, very mature.
Report Abuse
Posted by ( smmarkfan ) on March 1, 2008 at 11:03 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Condolences to all involved.
I have mixed feeling when it comes to vehicle accidents that end in a death. It is a darn shame, of that there is no doubt. However, it is an "ACCIDENT". Unless there are mitigating circumstances, (IE. intoxication, willful disregard of traffic laws, etc.), I see no reason to charge someone with a crime. Accidents happen.
This being the case, I will not attempt to pass judgment here as all of the facts have not been presented. I cannot imagine how the driver of the truck must
have felt when he realized the motorcyclist was dead/gravely injured. It must have been horrifying!
Remember folks, this could happen to any one of you. If your child/spouse/parent/friend was involved in an accident that killed someone, would you not be supportive, soothing, understanding, even defensive? How about showing a little humanity (read CLASS) here?
I personally have been involved in a motorcycle vs. car accident. I was on the bike, and it was completely my fault. I was very lucky not to be injured, and the poor lady I hit (who was sitting at an intersection with her signal on waiting to make a left turn) was absolutely DISTRAUGHT & OVERWHELMED with concern for me.
That having been said... PLEASE WATCH OUT FOR MOTORCYCLES. We don't stand a chance against 2+ tons of metal. And for fellow motorcyclists... RIDE CAREFULLY ON THE STREETS. You don't stand a chance against 2+ tons of metal!
Report Abuse
Posted by ( mrwright ) on March 1, 2008 at 11:21 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
So did the driver of the truck and trailer turn in front of the on coming biker or did the biker run into the back of the trailer?
Either way, you can bet there will a civil lawsuit over this deal...
Report Abuse
Posted by ( DoodleBugg ) on March 1, 2008 at 11:26 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
very well said (smmarkfan)..
Report Abuse
Posted by ( DoodleBugg ) on March 1, 2008 at 11:28 a.m.
(This comment was removed by the site staff.)
Posted by ( KatB ) on March 1, 2008 at 11:52 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Accidents may be just that, an accident. Unfortunately too many of us are just not paying attention to what we are doing while driving. We talk, eat, change CD's all while speeding, abruptly changing lanes and turning without signaling.
I'm sure the driver found at fault in this accident will be fined severely in the civil lawsuit but still, maybe laws SHOULD be stiffer.
I had a narrow miss myself a couple of weekends ago while on my Harley when a minivan turned right into my lane of travel without stopping. By the grace of God I narrowly missed, even then, only because I was paying attention, not because most of the drivers of vehicles do.
Think about your driving folks. It may save a life.
Kat
Report Abuse
Posted by ( smmarkfan ) on March 1, 2008 at 11:53 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Thank you DoodleBugg. By the way, I suggested all of your idiotic, abusive comments for removal. Perhaps you could learn a thing or two from my comments and writing style. (Just a suggestion...)
Report Abuse
Posted by ( rpagan1 ) on March 1, 2008 at 12:11 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Censorship blows!!! I would have liked to have read doodlebugg's comments, and then decide for myself if he makes sense or is an idiot. But now I'll never know.
As far as the crash goes, if the truck turned in front of the bike when the bike was right up on him...then the truck driver screwed up bad. But if the truck driver had time to turn and the bike didn't slow down anticipating that there might be a trailer, or a reason that the truck could not clear the road in time, then the motorcyclist was not being very observant. I ride a 2006 suzuki hayabusa...one of the most powerful and fastest sportbikes on the planet. But on the streets, I ride as if every car, truck , pedestrian, even other motorcycles, are all trying to kill me. I leave as much space as possible between me and other vehicles. I assume that the the car in the next lane can't see me, or is about to turn in front of me. I ride very defensively. I don't stunt or ride recklessly. I do occassionally speed a little bit, but not in traffic. I am not the perfect rider, but I'm still alive and accident free after 20 plus years of riding. It's easy to always blame the car or truck, it's harder to accept that as riders, we share the responsibility of safe driving. My condolences to the families of all involved.
Report Abuse
Posted by ( lolafalala ) on March 1, 2008 at 12:13 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Smmarkfan: Obviously you didn't read the story. The truck driver was cited for a right of way violation so this would be considered "willful disregard of traffic laws". Maybe you suffered some dane bramage when you hit the car. Just because you were at fault doesn't mean this guy was.
Report Abuse
Posted by ( DoodleBugg ) on March 1, 2008 at 12:19 p.m.
(This comment was removed by the site staff.)
Posted by ( denmar ) on March 1, 2008 at 12:42 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
It's unfortunate that motorcyclists get the short end of the stick when a crash happens, whether it be their fault or not. That's the chance they take every day when they get on a bike I guess. Precisely why I don't ride one.
Doodlebugg...I'm sure others appreciate your dining suggestions on here, but I'll stick with food, thanks. You can have my share.
Report Abuse
Posted by ( InAtlanta ) on March 1, 2008 at 1:21 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
There is so much information to this story that is missing. Was the motorcycle speeding? Was alcohol/drugs involved with either driver? If the driver of the truck was cited for a right-of-way violation, did he turn into the path of the oncoming motorcycle which broadsided his trailer? Or was the motorcycle also traveling south and the truck/trailer did not make the left turn quick enough and the motorcycle hit the back of the trailer? I hope TBO will post more facts.
Report Abuse
Posted by ( icebrkr ) on March 1, 2008 at 2:27 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
If it were a sport bike involved, it would have been the motorcycle riders fault and witnesses would have claimed to have seen him going 180mph.. Yadda yadda! Cagers just don't give a crap what happens, they switch lanes because they feel like it-- with out even looking. No turn signal or anything. They're worse than motorcycle riders in and out of traffic. I was run off the road by a lady who didn't even look in her mirror. She just kept coming over into my lane until I ended up on the grass. I ride defensively. Always thinking someone is out to hit me. LOOK TWICE! Before changing lanes or turning left across traffic.
Report Abuse
Posted by ( chuckhill ) on March 1, 2008 at 4:44 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Congratulations, DoodleBug. I think you set a record. Even if you are intellectualy-challenged.
Report Abuse
Posted by ( mountainman104 ) on March 1, 2008 at 5:32 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
thanks for all the comments, i pray that none of you ever have to live thru the loss of a love one because of a mistake someone makes. the rider was my son.
Report Abuse
Posted by ( Seawolf ) on March 1, 2008 at 5:54 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
The problem today is that people assume driving a vehicle is thier right instead of a privilege.
And they think they are bullet proof.
Prayers to you and your family Mountainman. Sorry for your loss.
Report Abuse
Posted by ( Hernando ) on March 1, 2008 at 5:59 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
If the truck driver had been a teenager, and the victim a senior citizen, he would have been charged with vehicular manslaughter. It has happen MANY times before.
I and my cousin were victims of a senile driver in which the seniles wife died. He only got a $54 ticket. (He had to have assistance to see where to sign the ticket.) In the same intersection one week after my crash, a teen boy turned in front of a 70 year old man. the old man died. The boy spent a year in jail. Justice?? In Florida?? A JOKE!!!
Report Abuse
Posted by ( SOMETHINKS2 ) on March 2, 2008 at 12:14 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
According to the sheriff's office, the pick-up truck was headed south on McIntosh and slowed to make a left turn. As it was turning, McIntosh ran into the utility trailer the truck was pulling.
I AM SO SORRY FOR THIS MAN AND HIS FAMILY BUT READ THE CAPTION AGAIN I BELIEVE HE RAN INTO THE TRILAER
Report Abuse
Posted by ( kmspots ) on March 2, 2008 at 2:33 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Sometinks2 - Guess Again. "The truck driver, Christopher West, 50, of Louisiana, was not injured. He was cited for a right-of-way violation."
He did run into the traler, WHEN IT PULLED IN FRONT OF HIM. Read the story.
Report Abuse
Posted by ( ABBY_914 ) on March 2, 2008 at 2:35 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Many years ago up North, a friend was killed while riding his motorcycle. A young man made a right turn from the far left lane, while our friend was in the center lane going straight. His wife, then 7 months pregnant was devestated.
None of us were there, nor do we know the circumstances, or the speeds of either driver.
People chill...a life was lost, a family and friends mourn and the driver and occupants of the other vehicle are going to live with this for a long time to come.
Priorities.
Report Abuse
Posted by ( wfin2004 ) on March 2, 2008 at 8:38 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
anymouse- Your comments show your ignorance and your IQ. "Ever heard of defensive driving" is the most idiotic statement one could make regarding a motorcycle and someone who turns in front of him.
Why don't you just not post if all you can do is show stupidity?
Report Abuse
Posted by ( Desmo ) on March 2, 2008 at 10:15 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
I ditto RPagan1's comments exactly. RIP rider.
Report Abuse
Posted by ( jeremysgma ) on March 2, 2008 at 3:01 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
To Jimmy's parents - all our sympathy
and love go out to you. Jimmy and my
son played soccer together many years ago and I know the worst thing that could happen to me would be losing my son. It doesn't matter who's at fault -
parents, family and friends have lost an
important person in their lives. God
Bless - Lory Henderson and son Scott McColm
Report Abuse
Post a comment
(Requires free registration.)
User name:
Password:
(Forgotten your password?)
Comment:
Weekly Deals | Write to the editor | Subscribe/two weeks free | Place an Ad
Email ThisEmail Print ThisPrint AddThis Social Bookmark Button
ADVERTISEMENT
Most Viewed
* Sex Charges Against Actor Dropped
* Hillsborough County Fire Chief Facing Assault Charge
* Victim In Strip Club Shooting Dies
* Kidnapped Girls Found, Suspects Still At large
* Toddler's Elmo Doll Makes Death Threats, Family Says
Your Weather
Community Calendar
Search Events:
Your Photos
Latest Galleries
I-4 Crashes
by tbostaff
2008 Gasparilla Parade
by tbostaff
SNAP! Photos
Join the photo community and start uploading your pictures today.
Also In TBO.com
* News
* Weather
* Entertainment
* Sports
* Life
* Jobs
* Cars
* Homes
* Shopping
* Classifieds
Advertisement
Advertise With Us:
Online | In Print | Broadcast