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Old 03-24-2016, 09:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ok Guys,

I need your help here. My cruise control went out again on my 08 2500. I replaced the brake switch and it worked for a while, but it stopped working again. What now?


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the wiring and/or the switch in the turn signal is also known to occasionally fail.

First look over the wiring in the steering column, see if any insulation has worn through.

Second, disconnect the harness for the turn signal and test it with a multimeter to see if the cruise button itself is sending the signal.

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What part number did you use? What brand?
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Be sure to replace brake switch with AC Delco brand. I replaced mine with aftermarket brand and had to do so every 6-9 months. Put AC Delco back in and no problems for 2+ years.
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Be sure to replace brake switch with AC Delco brand. I replaced mine with aftermarket brand and had to do so every 6-9 months. Put AC Delco back in and no problems for 2+ years.
I went and bought one from the dealer and it worked for about 3 months. I then went to an auto parts store and got one, and that didn't work at all.
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SWITCH. Stop Lamp Switch
GM Part Number: 15861245 $11.47
Any codes?
P0571, P0504
CEL light on?

Switch Test
1. Ignition OFF, disconnect the stop lamp switch.
2. With the brake pedal released, measure for infinite resistance between terminals A and B of the switch.

◊If resistance is measured, replace the switch.

3. With the brake pedal released, measure for less than 1.0 ohm resistance between terminals C and D of the switch.

◊If resistance is not as specified, replace the switch.

4. With the brake pedal applied, measure for less than 1.0 ohm resistance between terminals A and B of the switch.

◊If resistance is not as specified, replace the switch.

5. With the brake pedal applied, measure for infinite resistance between terminals C and D of the switch.

◊If resistance is measured, replace the switch.

Maybe look at this flow chart if you can find something.
DTC P0504
Circuit Description
The engine control module (ECM) monitors the stop lamp switch signal circuit and the torque converter clutch (TCC) brake switch/cruise control release signal circuit every 100 ms. The ECM monitors the status of the stop lamp switch signal circuit and the TCC brake switch/cruise control signal circuit to see if they match when the brake pedal is pressed or released.

DTC Descriptor
This diagnostic procedure supports the following DTC:

DTC P0504 Brake Switch Circuit 1-2 Correlation

Conditions for Running the DTC
The ignition is ON.

Conditions for Setting the DTC
The status of the stop lamp switch input to the ECM, and the TCC brake switch/cruise control input to the ECM do not match for at least 2 seconds continuously, for 10 occurrences. Each time the signals match then do not match a counter increments. When the counter reaches 10 the DTC will set.

Action Taken When the DTC Sets
When DTC P0504 is set the following will occur:

• The cruise control is disabled.

• The ECM will function as if the brake pedal is not pressed.

• The control module stores the DTC information into memory when the diagnostic runs and fails.

• The malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) will not illuminate.

• The control module records the operating conditions at the time the diagnostic fails. The control module stores this information in the Failure Records.

Conditions for Clearing the DTC
• The DTC will clear when the status of the stop lamp switch input to the ECM, and the TCC brake switch/cruise control input to the ECM match for at least 2 seconds continuously for both the pressed position and the released position.

• A current DTC Last Test Failed clears when the diagnostic runs and passes.

• A history DTC clears after 40 consecutive warm-up cycles, if no failures are reported by this or any other non-emission related diagnostic.

• Clear the DTC with a scan tool.

Diagnostic Aids
• Aftermarket trailer brake controllers must be disconnected before diagnosing DTC P0504 due to they could result in incorrect diagnostics.

• Check for intermittents and poor connections. Refer to Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections .

Step
Action
Yes
No

Schematic Reference: Exterior Lights Schematics and Cruise Control Schematics in Cruise Control

Connector End View Reference: Master Electrical Component List in Wiring Systems

1
Did you perform the Diagnostic System Check - Vehicle?
Go to Step 2
Go to Diagnostic System Check - Vehicle in Vehicle DTC Information

2
Turn the key On, engine OFF
With the scan tool, observe the Stop Lamp Pedal Switch parameter and TCC/Cruise Brake Pedal Switch parameter in the Powertrain, Diesel, Data Display, Eng Data Display menu.
Press and release the brake pedal.
Does the Stop Lamp Pedal Switch parameter and TCC/Cruise Brake Pedal Switch parameter display change closely with each other?
Go to Diagnostic Aids
Go to Step 3

3
With the scan tool, observe the TCC/Cruise Brake Pedal Switch parameter.
Press and release the brake pedal.
Does the TCC/Cruise Brake Pedal Switch parameter display change with the brake pedal position?
Go to Step 6
Go to Step 4

4
Turn OFF the ignition.
Disconnect the stop lamp switch.
Turn ON the ignition, with the engine OFF.
Does the TCC/Cruise Brake Pedal Switch parameter display released?
Go to Step 5
Go to Step 12

5
Turn OFF the ignition.
Connect a 10-amp fused jumper between the ignition positive voltage circuit of the stop lamp switch and the TCC brake switch/cruise control release signal circuit of the stop lamp switch.
Turn ON the ignition, with the engine OFF.
Does the TCC/Cruise Brake Pedal Switch parameter display applied?
Go to Step 15
Go to Step 8

6
Turn OFF the ignition.
Disconnect the stop lamp switch.
Turn ON the ignition, with the engine off.
With the scan tool, observe the Stop Lamp Pedal Switch parameter.
Does the Stop Lamp Pedal Switch parameter display Released?
Go to Step 7
Go to Step 10

7
Turn OFF the ignition.
Connect a 20-amp fused jumper between the battery positive voltage circuit of the stop lamp switch and the stop lamp switch signal circuit.
Turn ON the ignition, with the engine OFF.
Does the Stop Lamp Pedal Switch parameter display Applied?
Go to Step 15
Go to Step 11

8
Test the ignition positive voltage circuit of the stop lamp switch for an open or short to ground. Refer to Circuit Testing and Wiring Repairs in Wiring Systems.

Did you find and correct the condition?
Go to Step 18
Go to Step 9

9
Test for an open or short to ground in the TCC brake switch/cruise control release signal circuit of the stop lamp switch. Refer to Circuit Testing and Wiring Repairs in Wiring Systems.

Did you find and correct the condition?
Go to Step 18
Go to Step 14

10
Test the stop lamp switch signal circuit for a short to voltage. Refer to Circuit Testing and Wiring Repairs in Wiring Systems.

Did you find and correct the condition?
Go to Step 18
Go to Step 14

11
Test the battery positive voltage circuit of the stop lamp switch for an open or short to ground. Refer to Circuit Testing and Wiring Repairs in Wiring Systems.

Did you find and correct the condition?
Go to Step 18
Go to Step 13

12
Test the TCC brake switch/cruise control release signal circuit of the stop lamp switch for a short to voltage. Refer to Circuit Testing and Wiring Repairs in Wiring Systems.

Did you find and correct the condition?
Go to Step 18
Go to Step 16

13
Test the stop lamp switch signal circuit for an open or short to ground. Refer to Circuit Testing and Wiring Repairs in Wiring Systems.

Did you find and correct the condition?
Go to Step 18
Go to Step 14

14
Inspect for poor connections at the harness connector of the engine control module (ECM). Refer to Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections and Connector Repairs in Wiring Systems.

Did you find and correct the condition?
Go to Step 18
Go to Step 16

15
Inspect for poor connections at the harness connector of the stop lamp switch. Refer to Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections and Connector Repairs in Wiring Systems.

Did you find and correct the condition?
Go to Step 18
Go to Step 17

16
Replace the ECM. Refer to Control Module References in Computer/Integrating Systems for replacement, setup, and programming.

Did you complete the replacement?
Go to Step 18
--

17
Replace the stop lamp switch. Refer to Stop Lamp Switch Replacement .

Did you complete the replacement?
Go to Step 18
--

18
Use the scan tool in order to clear the DTCs .
Operate the vehicle within the Conditions for Running the DTC as specified in the supporting text.
Does the DTC reset?
Go to Step 2
System OK

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