6.4 Powerstroke vs LBZ/LMM

duramaximizer · 10-19-2006, 11:59 PM

Which one would you rather work on/modify?

Check out this link for the new 6.4 Powerstroke if you want to see a cluster ****.

http://www.forddoctorsdts.com/bullet...344,47,Slide47 (6.4 Powerstroke)
http://gm.wieck.com/forms/gm/previewpage?029901 (LMM)

Can't get the images to show???? PM me if you can help.

jdugie123 · 10-20-2006, 09:35 AM

i think i would rather work on the durumax the powerstroke just seems way to cluttered

saratoga · 10-20-2006, 10:14 AM

What a plumbing nightmare.

dls64chev · 10-20-2006, 10:15 AM

Looks to be a pile just like the 6 peter. At least they made it bigger. Now they can replace 2 turbos instead of the one. Here comes Ford with another better idea.

davefr · 10-20-2006, 10:30 AM

What was interesting to me was the torque curve. The Ford starts at about 300 ft lbs @1000 rpm and doesn't reach it's 650 ft lb peak until about 2000 rpm.

The LMM Duramax starts at 375 ft lbs @1000 rpm and reaches it's peak of 660 ft lbs at 1600 rpm.

I'd conclude that even though the specs are nearly identical the Duramax would feel much more spirited in everyday driving conditions.

sledman · 10-20-2006, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by davefr;1363130;

What was interesting to me was the torque curve. The Ford starts at about 300 ft lbs @1000 rpm and doesn't reach it's 650 ft lb peak until about 2000 rpm.

The LMM Duramax starts at 375 ft lbs @1000 rpm and reaches it's peak of 660 ft lbs at 1600 rpm.

I'd conclude that even though the specs are nearly identical the Duramax would feel much more spirited in everyday driving conditions.

I concur.......

2006LBZ · 10-20-2006, 10:59 AM

Considering the new PSD is new, and the LMM isn't really any different than the current LBZ + some new emissions updates.... no way to make a fair comparison.

I'm sure the DMAX will be easier, but we've yet to have anyone touch the new PSD. Too much speculation just yet.... we need to sit back and actually get both of these on the road before we can actually answer these kinds of threads.

LONGHORN Dad · 10-20-2006, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by saratoga;1363094;

What a plumbing nightmare.

Is that an aluminum head on that Ford ?

kklonghorns · 10-22-2006, 04:39 PM

so ford tightened the rubber band on their windup toy

ockgator · 10-23-2006, 09:24 PM

Dual EGR coolers, Dual turbos, EGR oxidation catalyst, what a freakin nitemare for techs, glad I'm not a ferd tech.

What's the reasoning for a fuel cooler inside the engine bay? That's about the hottest place in the truck, must be water cooled. HEY MA... 200* FUEL

Should we start a pool on how much this engine will cost ferd? Closest w/o going over

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duramaximizer Diesel Master Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Edgerton, Ohio Posts: 1,353 iTrader: (0)	6.4 Powerstroke vs LBZ/LMM Which one would you rather work on/modify? Check out this link for the new 6.4 Powerstroke if you want to see a cluster ***. http://www.forddoctorsdts.com/bullet...344,47,Slide47 (6.4 Powerstroke) http://gm.wieck.com/forms/gm/previewpage?029901 (LMM) Can't get the images to show???? PM me if you can help. __________________ 2007.5 RCLB 4x4 WT LMM EFI and some missing parts. Dieselplace dun sold out. But so far no negative changes yet, so I'm still around. Last edited by duramaximizer : 10-20-2006 at 12:22 AM.*
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10-20-2006, 09:35 AM	#2
jdugie123 Diesel Master Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: San Antonio, Tx Posts: 2,563 Garage: active iTrader: (0) Lone Star Diesels Member	i think i would rather work on the durumax the powerstroke just seems way to cluttered __________________ 04.5 D/A MBRP 4" cool duals with muffler delete, volant air intake, EFI Live, Edelbrock 1792 fuel pump, PPE lift pump on VO tank, suncoast level IV, ATS copilot, nicktane fuel filter, 6" RCD, 37" BFG M/T KM2, 4.56 gears, bushwacker cutout fender flares, wet okolie set covers, MTX subs with a sony amp, full replacement front with 9.5K warn winch built in and rear replacement bumpers, B&W turnover ball both gooseneck and bumper hitch
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10-20-2006, 10:14 AM	#3
saratoga Diesel Master Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 3,449 iTrader: (0)	What a plumbing nightmare.
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10-20-2006, 10:15 AM	#4
dls64chev Diesel Technician Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 321 iTrader: (0)	Looks to be a pile just like the 6 peter. At least they made it bigger. Now they can replace 2 turbos instead of the one. Here comes Ford with another better idea. __________________ 06 REG cab/long box ZF6/lly(Sold) no kitty 4"down pipe PPE Xcellerator 225hp SBC SINGLE DISC/SMF 2008 Vortec Max, ext cab hp tuners tuned L3130kubota w/loader CRF450x honda Polaris RZR 800 Ducati 900 Monster Brotherhood of Handshakers #59
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10-20-2006, 10:30 AM	#5
davefr Diesel Technician Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 299 iTrader: (0)	What was interesting to me was the torque curve. The Ford starts at about 300 ft lbs @1000 rpm and doesn't reach it's 650 ft lb peak until about 2000 rpm. The LMM Duramax starts at 375 ft lbs @1000 rpm and reaches it's peak of 660 ft lbs at 1600 rpm. I'd conclude that even though the specs are nearly identical the Duramax would feel much more spirited in everyday driving conditions.
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10-20-2006, 10:59 AM	#7
2006LBZ Diesel Specialist Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Youngstown, Ohio Posts: 757 Garage: active iTrader: (0)	Considering the new PSD is new, and the LMM isn't really any different than the current LBZ + some new emissions updates.... no way to make a fair comparison. I'm sure the DMAX will be easier, but we've yet to have anyone touch the new PSD. Too much speculation just yet.... we need to sit back and actually get both of these on the road before we can actually answer these kinds of threads. __________________ 2009 F250 Crew 6.4 PSD 2011 Mustang GT 5.0 Conv.
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10-22-2006, 04:39 PM	#9
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10-23-2006, 09:24 PM	#10
ockgator Diesel Master Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ocklawaha,Fl Posts: 1,673 iTrader: (0)	Dual EGR coolers, Dual turbos, EGR oxidation catalyst, what a freakin nitemare for techs, glad I'm not a ferd tech. What's the reasoning for a fuel cooler inside the engine bay? That's about the hottest place in the truck, must be water cooled. HEY MA... 200* FUEL Should we start a pool on how much this engine will cost ferd? Closest w/o going over __________________ Rick 2002Chevy 2500HD cclb 8.1/Allison 4" rancho lift 315/75/16 Pro Comp M/T workhorse not trailer queen. Newest member of the family.. 07.5 C1500 ECSB 4.8 WT 28 year veteran of the "underhood" wars, 13 at Chevy dealer It's great to be a Florida Gator My pic is from inside the Swamp, Ben Hill Griffin Stadium at Florida Field 1996 2006 2008 Football Chompions 2006 2007 Men's BB Chompions
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