It only took 9 pages for everyone to start acting civil?
Ya gotta love that.
Juice I wish I could be there to watch you run again!!!
Best of luck man I hope you have a chance to stop by!!!
Me Casa is you Casa!!!! or something like thathttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif

Hey man, I've been acting civil all along - just ask me, I'll tell you! http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

It only took 9 pages for everyone to start acting civil?
Ya gotta love that.
J http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif

We call that trigger happy .... Shoot first ask questions later ..... http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

Gotta admit it was fun getting here on the 9th page at the DieselPlace ....

Got Juice => http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Thumbs Up.gif

Mac http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif

It only took 9 pages for everyone to start acting civil?
Ya gotta love that.
J http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif

We call that trigger happy .... Shoot first ask questions later ..... http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

Gotta admit it was fun getting here on the 9th page at the DieselPlace ....

Got Juice => http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Thumbs Up.gif

Mac http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif





Personally i was getting a kick out of all the times the page had been viewed.....3781 and counting must be a new record or somethinghttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gifEdited by: Got Juice?

I still stand that something was fishy. I am not calling Got Juice a liar at all, but the dyno was reading funny or maybe that style dyno just reads different? I will be curious what the ol Mustang spits out.....I think it will bring a healthy reality check.

i think it cool because i started the thread http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif


http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif- to all who participated

It ain't over yet. I hope he duplicates as well........BUT, what happens if he doesn't......will it be a dyno error....box was different....what? Where will the guardsmen be then........


Got Juice.....nothing personal, I am rooting for you......I just have my doubts. If you see the same results....I am sure Bully Dog will have a record sales week!!

I think it's cool everybody came around and put their feelings aside.

Big Dipper,
I agree - it's going to be VERY interesting when GJ or someone else runs this combo. The scenarios of what we could see and the very outspoken people most likely backpeddling, whether it be the naysayers or the defenders. Either way, many people will be enlightened, which is never a bad thing.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Thumbs Up.gif

I will be dynoing this weekend. OCT 18th @BD-Power that is for sure.


My edge box will also be different so the results will also be different.


slipping on a mustang dyno is not unheard of (too common for my taste), but i would not cry foul if my results end up being less. That said, i will be doing the driving to take out that variable, as it does seem that i can wring good performances from my truck.


Wish allison luck, not me!

It ain't over yet. I hope he duplicates as well........BUT, what happens if he doesn't......will it be a dyno error....box was different....what? Where will the guardsmen be then........


Got Juice.....nothing personal, I am rooting for you......I just have my doubts. If you see the same results....I am sure Bully Dog will have a record sales week!!











It will be great to try to back it up (on a diff dyno, with a diff juice :(, but oh well)


Having said that, it is good to see more adult posts here.... i might have to stay for a while after allhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif

544 and you are making changes?? That makes about as much sense as wiping before you poop.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

Quad, thats funny http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

544 and you are making changes?? That makes about as much sense as wiping before you poop.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif





true, but i want my juice to run the attitude....... in hindsight maybe that was not a good idea....oh well....too late to do anything about it.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gif

544 and you are making changes?? That makes about as much sense as wiping before you poop.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif





That is sum funny stuff !!!!!


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Mac http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gifEdited by: Mackin

I will be dynoing this weekend. OCT 18th @BD-Power that is for sure.


My edge box will also be different so the results will also be different.


slipping on a mustang dyno is not unheard of (too common for my taste), but i would not cry foul if my results end up being less. That said, i will be doing the driving to take out that variable, as it does seem that i can wring good performances from my truck.


Wish allison luck, not me!





Hey man, don't be making excuses yet!!! I'm counting on you (and the Allison). If the combo is hot, then you should at the very least be over 500. But for example, if you come out at 430, then I think everyone will be questioning the first run (you included). Good luck - looking forward to seeing the numbers!


Quad, that was funny.

544 and you are making changes?? That makes about as much sense as wiping before you poop.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif


We already pooped our pants when we saw the numbers at Piers' and now Juice is wiping up something he didn't like?


Juice, I know you don't stand still very long when you don't like something or want to change it, what was the reason? Part of the defueling you mentioned? I guess I don't understand the statement "you want your Juice to run the attitude".

"....oh well....too late to do anything about it.http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gif"


never too late my friend.....what version was it.....maybe I could help you out


"It will be great to try to back it up (on a diff dyno, with a diff juice :(, but oh well)"


don't back down now....this is what we have all been waiting for......I can see where the numbers will be a little lower on the mustang....but I don't know about 50 horses

"....oh well....too late to do anything about it.http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gif"


never too late my friend.....what version was it.....maybe I could help you out


"It will be great to try to back it up (on a diff dyno, with a diff juice :(, but oh well)"


don't back down now....this is what we have all been waiting for......I can see where the numbers will be a little lower on the mustang....but I don't know about 50 horses














Hot Juice Version 4.3 if anyone has one they would like me to try, send it on up


Ol Blue..... the attitude is an edge product for the juice that allows you to set defuelling between shifts/defuel for egt high limit and also allows you to change power l;evels on the fly....unfortunately you need your module updated to run the controller.... since i bought it at piers...well, i just want to plug in my new toy!

Ahhhhh.....It's a GM thang! :moon:

544 and you are making changes?? That makes about as much sense as wiping before you poop.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif


QUAD I am not the one full of poop here!





But at the very least i am being proactive about it (drive 11 hours to the nearest dyno event to back it up).....2 dyno days in less than a month...... and you plan to dyno when?....another month from now?..... how about next year?http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Dead.gifEdited by: Got Juice?

Whoa... GJ, you do know that Quad has the fastest DMax on here, don't you? iirc, it's 1/4 is 12.0x @ 119.xx... I'm not sure he's got very much to prove.


Your point about your efforts are valid though.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif

Whoa... GJ, you do know that Quad has the fastest DMax on here, don't you? iirc, it's 1/4 is 12.0x @ 119.xx... I'm not sure he's got very much to prove.


Your point about your efforts are valid though.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif





Hmmm. no i did not realize he had the fastest max out there... i was under the impression that Clint Cannon had that honour. Hard for me to believe it though (similar to not believing somone's dyno number perhaps?) ....sound familiar?


Just want Quad to understand that so long as he keeps crying foul about my run, i can so do to any claim he makes as well (should i believe any of his witnesses or are his timeslips borrowed?....timing error? lots can happen in a Q/M run ).... Not deliberately stirring the pot on purpose, but now maybe he will see my POV


Thanks for the encouragement Joe!

That was based on a post by M Tomac in this thread http://dieselplace.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=47&PN=1, but appears to have been editted, so I might be wrong.


As far as your POV, I think Quad was very fair in stating how he felt, but was clear that he wasn't calling you a liar. Let's not stir the pot too much - we just back to being frickin civil again!!! http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Evil Smile.gif

I can make 544 on 6 cylinders.


Why should I dyno? My customers have dynoed my stuff plenty of times. Heck my competitors dyno my stuff. I think I get questioned as much or more than anyone. If you are gonna make or claim big numbers you better learn to handle the heat. I actually kind of enjoy it now!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif I get withdrawl and have to sit around and think of something outrageous to say so I can catch hell!


I appreciate you trying to go back it up. I have dynoed the same combo you did....thats why I say that something was wrong. I think it was the dyno. Down here Dynojet is probably the most popular dyno, followed by Mustang and then Superflow. All of them read differently. I am assuming what you were using up there just reads different. I think that unfortunately you will be humbled on a Mustang.


I am not picking on you...I wished it was as easy as stacking 2 boxes together to get that kind of power! We are getting close, but still 40 or so away.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cry.gif

Clints truck is fast. I am not sure if we have the fastest truck or the most power. You won't ever see me making any claims.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif


I will tell you this....if you want to find out just how quick it is....I will drive up there and run ya. But we don't run for free. If you are interested let me know.


We leave the times and number up to our customers. A lot of people have said that it is easy to build a fast one off truck. I somewhat disagree, but we assume if we can sell bolt ons to our customers and they are going fast then its not one off!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif It really doesn't matter how fast I go. When we are racing we usually only go as fast as we need to anyways.


So in short, you don't need to believe me.....but can you run 12.8? I would venture to say that he is not making 544 on #2 only.

I love this exchange please stir the pot some more. http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/15/15_4_105.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001)http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_1_2.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001)


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Edited by: DIESEL 5

It ain't over yet. I hope he duplicates as well........BUT, what happens if he doesn't......will it be a dyno error....box was different....what? Where will the guardsmen be then........








That is the whole point to all this mess.


I will still be here covering Juices back http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif Because he is my FRIEND!!!


Why else would a bunch of Dodge owners sign onto a Chevy site????


I should say a bunch of Cummins owners sign onto a Duramax site.


I am here because I felt my friend needed a hand reguardless of what he drives...http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif Hell I'd ride a Honda to Sturgis if he needed me to!! Thats what friends are for.


This Guardsman will be here!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Thumbs Up.gif

Got Juice has a body guard now?http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/384.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001)








Edited by: DIESEL 5

Clints truck is fast. I am not sure if we have the fastest truck or the most power. You won't ever see me making any claims.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif


I will tell you this....if you want to find out just how quick it is....I will drive up there and run ya. But we don't run for free. If you are interested let me know.


We leave the times and number up to our customers. A lot of people have said that it is easy to build a fast one off truck. I somewhat disagree, but we assume if we can sell bolt ons to our customers and they are going fast then its not one off!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif It really doesn't matter how fast I go. When we are racing we usually only go as fast as we need to anyways.


So in short, you don't need to believe me.....but can you run 12.8? I would venture to say that he is not making 544 on #2 only.








not with a stock tranny i sure as hail won't ...... what's your point?

I'm covering Hoss's back... http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

It would have been nice to have had the exact same Juice for some clarity. Any way to call edge and make sure you get the exact same program back?

It would have been nice to have had the exact same Juice for some clarity. Any way to call edge and make sure you get the exact same program back?





i doubt it :(


but i am still gonna dyno with whatever i get.... you can count on it!


besides, i am not here for the uberhp..... just to improve on my DMX and enjoy it!... most of the people i have met as far as the bombers go have been excellent people with whom i can laugh with, party with, talk to , share information with, and above all just have a damn good time!


That human part of the friendships made is worth far more than any piece of paper generated by a dyno ever could. And that is my bottom line!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gifEdited by: Got Juice?

My point is that there are people running mid-high 12's, not me by the way, and they aren't making 544 rwhp. Until just recently the only trucks in the 12's were CLint and Steve Cole(recently as well). Now there are a few guys, then all of the sudden you spend a $1000 and you can make more power than all these other guys?


Like I said, I am not picking on you, I have been on a million dynos, and made a million runs, with a gillion trucks.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif YOU ARE NOT GOING TO MAKE 544 on a MUSTANG, or a DYNOJET, or a SUPERFLOW. Whatever they are using up there calculates power differently? Maybe its Canadian Horsepower?


I am like any other gearhead, I would love to sit around and benchrace and BS with you. I would gladly offer and help in any way I could. Plenty of people here know me, and not people I told to come here, they will tell you the same. What irritates me is that a group of guys selling products (not you directly) want to come and make a scene with something that is basically impossible.


Yes it is virtually impossible, there is not enough fuel available. I could go into detail with ml of fuel specs, but I see no need for that.


Have a good time, share helpful info if you have some, and be realistic.


When you get back form BD dyno day come tell us how bad that dyno sucks.





Quad


http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

Dam Buddy you left no stone untouched in that one !!!! Nice closer ...


Mac http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

Energizer bunny post! http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif

I think I will call Mr Aaron and see if they send back the original or just send a similar box back. I have several juices and would be glad for you to have one of those altered for the attitude. Taking the chance to loose a piece of such a lethal combination does not make a lot of sense. I would be glad to swab loan or give you one of mine to use for the attitude. Just give me the old juice. I would love to see this repeated but Im still real skeptical. Lets keep the original pieces together if we can so to keep down the inevidible excuse "well If I just had that old juice things might be different". Im going to be traveling today and will call edge. gj pm me or email to dvgamble@bellsouth.net. I should be back in the office tommorrow.........daveEdited by: sdaver

Maybe its Canadian Horsepower?


Have a good time, share helpful info if you have some, and be realistic.


When you get back form BD dyno day come tell us how bad that dyno sucks.





Quad


http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif





#1"Canadian Horsepower" indeed..... is that in the same vein as "American Intelligence" or is it "Quad Mentality?"....if so please do go on!


#2 I always have a great time


#3 this will be my 4th time to BD and i already have experience on their dyno, so i would know, far better than your experience if it would suck or not.


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Got Juice I guess I understand you that your don't care about big hp? I can't imagine anyone else making that kind of power and settling for whatever edge would send them back. They would have had to pry it from my cold dead fingers. Still seems fishy all the hype then you come back with an iron clad excuse. Oh well I wish you well on another big #.

DIESEL PLACE ADVISORY!!!!!!!! I HAVE HAD A POST DELETED IN THIS THREAD. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Angry.gif ANYONE CARE TO EXPLAIN???? IT WAS MADE PRIOR TO ----15 October 2003 at 5:10am ------- THE NEXT POST THAT WAS MADE AFTER MINE WAS MADE THEN.

Must be the CAPS filter we just installed. All posts written in CAPS get wiped. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Wink.gif

First do yourself a favor and do a thorough search on the site using some words in your post. I know I haven't deleted any posts in this thread. There is almost no moderating action done in the last few weeks other than in the war room.

Maybe a post or topic getting moved but that's it.

Maybe Mackin saw it since he posted after that timeframe.

Edited by: hoot

Got Juice I guess I understand you that your don't care about big hp? I can't imagine anyone else making that kind of power and settling for whatever edge would send them back. They would have had to pry it from my cold dead fingers. Still seems fishy all the hype then you come back with an iron clad excuse. Oh well I wish you well on another big #.





Hey, who slapped your pp this morning.... i did not spend 260.00 on an edge attitude controller to not run it. I am still dynoing this weekend so we will see what number comes up fair enough? even with the big number i did achieve it isn't useable from my POV (high EGT's, tranny reliability!?!?!?)....i USE my truck to tow with on a daily basis, it is my ONLY form of transportation and i rely on it to make a living.


This is going nowhere fast . I posted 544.I Dynoed 543.3 on one dyno for one day! AFAIC i have nothing more to prove to people who call it BS or label be as an excuses kind of guy. It ain't called bragging if you can back it up, and the paper on it is posted here. You wanna get personal/physical.....come over here and back your mouth up or alternatively spend the money, run the combo i did and then post YOUR RESULTS. Prove ME wrong..... just try to do it this year. I will travel 11 hours to dyno and sacrifice 3 of my work days to do it.

DIESEL PLACE ADVISORY!!!!!!!! I HAVE HAD A POST DELETED IN THIS THREAD. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Angry.gif ANYONE CARE TO EXPLAIN???? IT WAS MADE PRIOR TO ----15 October 2003 at 5:10am ------- THE NEXT POST THAT WAS MADE AFTER MINE WAS MADE THEN.

Whatever your post was feel free to post it again if you don't see it.

I didn't see it ...Nothing was after Quad's post this mourning ....

Stop trying to snag the attention from the subject ....Peanut put the content back ...

Mac http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif Edited by: Mackin

Peanut,


We didn't delete any of your posts. Everybody has been getting along so well i haven't even thought about the delte button... maybe your CAPSLOCK key got in the way of the "submit post" button?


http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif

Peanut butter fingers.....

HELL IM NOT TRYING TO STIR THE POT OR TAKE ANY HEAT OFF OF JUICE. JUICE IS A BIG BOY AND HAS SOME BIG SHOES TO FILL, I WANNA SEE IF HE CAN DO IT AGAIN AS MUCH AS ANYONE. AFTER COMMING IN LASTNIGHT AND SEEING ALL OF THE POSTING THAT HAD WENT ON IN THIS THREAD SICE MY LAST VISIT TO THIS GREAT SITEhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif. I SIMPLY MADE A POST STATING "DO ANY OF YOU EVER WORK, I CANNT BELIVE HOW MANY POSTS HAVE BEEN MADE SINCE IVE BEEN OUT. AND I ADDED, MAYBE I NEED TO GET WIRELESS NET SERVICE MY JOHN DEERE TO KEEP UP WITH THE DEVELOPMENTS IN THIS THREAD.





NOTHING BIG OR EARTH SHATTERING WAS POSTED. I CAN THINK OF ALOT OF OTHER POSTS IVE MADE THAT MIGHT BE MORE SUPSEPTABLE TO BEING DELETEDhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Evil Smile.gif JUST WONDERING WHAT THE DEAL IS IS ALL. MAYBE ITS JUST A TYPICAL COMPUTER GLITCH LIKE SOME OF YOU FEEL JUICES DYNO NUMBERS ARE LMAO

Dude, quit YELLING! http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif

HUH??????? I CANNT YEAR YOU!!!!!!!!!!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gif

GJ I understand wanting to play with the new toy you bought but I would have made edge promise to return it with the exact same programming.


I would be happy to prove or disprove your #'s if you would believe me. I understand if I come up with much lower #'s then we would need another truck on another dyno to be sure but even then would you believe there was a problem that day or that your truck is just better than the other 2?


As for the personal deal, I never attacked you personally. I did state several possibilites for the error but never claimed to know which one it was.


As for the physical deal, I never said or mouthed anything to call for that but since your brought it up I DON'T need a bodyguard.Edited by: CPMac

PEANUTGRWR,


Just when all the boys were playin so well together and you go and leave yourself wide open for someone to say, Oh, I see! He's deaf & ....! http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/23/23_1_15.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001) You don't want to go giving farmers a bad name now do ya?


BTW, Are you on here all day?





http://www.smileycentral.com/sigpc=ZSzeb009 (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb009)

Got Juice I guess I understand you that your don't care about big hp? I can't imagine anyone else making that kind of power and settling for whatever edge would send them back. They would have had to pry it from my cold dead fingers. Still seems fishy all the hype then you come back with an iron clad excuse. Oh well I wish you well on another big #.





No Excuses at all. simple fact that i bought the controller to use, not to sit an admire something not working...as to dynoing a lower number on a different dyno we will see, but i am not gonna be upset if it is lower, because i have run on many different types of dyno's and they all seem to hover around 10-15 hp different.


Fishy is your opinion that you are entitled to, but it is my $$$ on my truckand i will run what i see fit when where and how i want.

I never attacked you personally. I did state several possibilites for the error but never claimed to know which one it was.


As for the physical deal, I never said or mouthed anything to call for that but since your brought it up I DON'T need a bodyguard.





If someone directly or indirectly were to call me a liar, i would respond in either of 2 ways. 1 never speak to them again or 2 give them a fat lip.


i do not need a bodygaurd, but when 20 people say no way and were not at the event, i can bring to bear 100 that were there, witnessed the run and though they are friends definately not lie for me for any reason. if i or the run was FOS they would so indicate it .


You doubt the run , that is your perogative. You were not there so you feel obligated to attack the results because your truck was not there for comparison.... still an ok thing to do. You switch tactics to blame the host of the event or the dyno operator, not cool. The personal attacks / alluding to being called a liar is another thing entirely. FYI Mark@V/A ran with me in the truck with programming their DMX would not hold...but mine did...i guess i just have a flier.


You want the results of my next dyno.... you can read about it. You want info on my next mod (after the tranny) forget it. Most of you are so involved in finding potential excuses on me or my truck you have become one yourselves.


To the members with whom i have talked to, thank you for the insight and the advise, give me a shout anytime.


I'm outta here....good riddance to bad rubbish


Moderators please disable my account.


Thanks


GJ


PS King D it was worth a try anywaysEdited by: Got Juice?

I DON'T need a bodyguard.

Need???? He does not need a bodyguard the point was he has friends willing to stand behind him!!
Even if he does drive a chevyhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif

Too badhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Disapprove.gif I was looking forward to a duke it out not ear biting

Too badhttp://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Disapprove.gif I was looking forward to a duke it out not ear biting


Same here, Got Juice I hope you change your mind ! http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4_2_6.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001)








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GJ - Now you're leaving? http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cry.gif - How are we ever going to know what your numbers are this coming weekend..?? I for one am waiting with baited breath! (tic tac, anyone?, anyone?) http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif - See I knew this thread would loose it's horse power (no pun intended http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Wink.gif) http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Evil Smile.gifEdited by: blowingsmoke

Yeah, this is kinda pathetic. GJ - you got some thin skin. This IS the internet after all. No one here has outright called you a liar (but I'm too lazy to go back through and make sure). Some people have openly stated they think there was an error, etc - everyone has opinions. Your truck recorded those numbers - fine. No one here (since page two maybe) has doubted that. Most have been doubting if it can be duplicated on either your truck or another. With all that sceptism, you go and change one of the variables and can't see how it comes across as an "excuse". I think many of us are surprised why someone with an unbelievable/awesome stack would risk screwing with it for the sake of added functionality, when for all intensive purposes, the Hot OJ is all the Ally can take anyways!!! Your intentions of using the Attitude make sense, but won't you kick yourself if you go and dyno 430 with essentially the same stack and "wonder" if the different Juice made the difference or if there was a problem the first time around? The carnivores that be the internet will be all over it, whether it be the Duramax enthusiasts here, or on the Cummins Page. The guys with the Cummins may not have given you the grief the first time around because they may not know the Duramax as well as most here, and have taken it at face value without an understanding of the real requirements to make that kinda power. Your setup making the numbers you did seem beyond normal. Your failure to be objective about it and recognize that it could be just your truck or an error, is simply silly. An error is possible, regardless how good the operator was!!!


I'm 100% supportive of you/your setup, but from everything I've read on this and other forums, my honest opinion is that your setup is NOT going to be duplicated, at least not on a different truck. I hope it will, but sometimes you gotta make a logical judgement, and mine is that based on what I know I think it won't be repeated. I sincerely hope it does, as I've stated sincerely before, cuz it'll tell me what I'm spending on next.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif Again, I hope it's the stack, but the engineer in me says it ain't.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Disapprove.gif


You wanna complain about people being mean/personal - I think you've been as or more personal than most others. Just an outsider here who's only trying to get the data on the page - honest opinions always have to be welcome, regardless whether they're what we want to hear or not.

To all those that have driven the poor guy away, hurt his feelings, (and in the spirit of Halloween)


KISS MY PUMPKIN!!! http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif


http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/image001_pumpkin_design.jpg

GJ - Now you're leaving? http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cry.gif - How are we ever going to know what your numbers are this coming weekend..?? I for one am waiting with baited breath! (tic tac, anyone?, anyone?) http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif - See I knew this thread would loose it's horse power (no pun intended http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Wink.gif) http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Evil Smile.gif





He'll be posting his #'s at http://www.nwbombers.com sometime after the 18th. Come on over for a visit - your all welcome! No need to register for most of the forums.

LOOK THIER ARE LOTS OF POEPLE HERE THAT HAVE GIVEN HIM HELL THAT HIS COMBO WONT WORK AND HES DREAMING. BUT, HAS ANYONE ELSE TRIED IT AND TAKEN IT TO A DAYNO???? HES THE ONE TRYING TO PROVE HIMSELF!!!! AND THAT IS WRONG, IF YOU DONT BELIEVE HIM THEN YOU SHOULD BE THE ONE TRYING TO PROVE HIM WRONG. HES MADE A STATEMENT AND BACKED IT UP WITH A DYNO SHEET. I HAVE NO CLUE IF IT IS CORRECT NOR DO ANY OF YOU. SO, BEFORE YOU GO AND ACCUSE HIM OF MAKING UP A STORY OR NOT TELLING THE TRUTH, OR EVEN NO KNOWING HOW TO RUN HIS TRUCK ON A DYNO WHY DONT YOU TRY THE SAME COMBO FOR YOURSELVEShttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clown.gif Edited by: PEANUTGRWR

GJ I never called you a liar. For the record I believe you are telling it just as it is. I do wonder why you let go of a potentially awesome combination but that is the difference between you and me. I am fairly positive I know what the error was and I don't care if the error ever gets revealed, all I want to know is if there wasn't an error. You driving to another dyno event is more than you need to do to prove yourself I agree but weren't you going anyway? I have tried to get it through your thick head that there were several possibilities for an error and a few of them suggested you were a phony or liar but I never said that was the case only a possibility. I also wasn't accusing the shop you were at or the dyno operator only stating that they were a possibility or that the dyno doesn't read consistent with the dyno's everyone else uses. I have read that the brand dyno in question is considered generous. Go ahead and run off again that shows what you are really made of. I'll be right here waiting for some more proof.

way to go boys, pissed him off not once but twice, what a fourm, i really would some how like him to suceed, just to here your replys, http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cry.gif

So what did we get out of this topic?

GJ dynoed 544RWHP. It was witnessed by many and confirmed by Piers.

Those who did not witness it (including me) are skeptical about the ability to repeat the numbers.

GJ says he will re-run but not with the same boxes.

Those who did not witness it (including me) are now even more skeptical.

GJ runs off with his tail between his legs and the Dodge boys invite everybody over to their forum.

Is that a fair summary?

Edited by: hoot

Oh! - and no one liked my Pumpkin!! Yeesh - you try to lighten the mood.. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

I liked it......the pumpkinhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/5A1_hmm3grin2orange.gif......and yes hoot thats is a fair summary........seems over the weekend I got an email of another not so fair summary.......but this is not the place to discuss it Ill be in touch.....dave

Oh Come on Dave - do you realize how curious I am now???


B-Smoke, the pumkin was great!!!

I WANNA KNOW WHAT THE NOT SO FAIR SUMMARY IS DONT YALL???????????????http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif

BD's dyno WILL be a formiddable opponent, and will likely produce more realistic numbers. It seems to read just a few HP higher than what I typically see, but they are at a much lower elevation as I understand.

IF THEY BOTH ARE AT SEA LEVEL HOW IN THE HELL CAN THE ELEVATION VARY???????????????????????????????????????http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Geek.gif

HOPE HE HAS A LIFT PUMP TO COMPENSATE FOR THE ELEVATION DIFFERENCEhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gifhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gifhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gifhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gifhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif

IF THEY BOTH ARE AT SEA LEVEL HOW IN THE HELL CAN THE ELEVATION VARY???????????????????????????????????????http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Geek.gif


Please re-read my post.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif


There are a number of variables. What I typically see at my 1300' high humidity air will not be consistent with a seal level test. Also, the calibration of the dyno. While the Mustang can be very consistent, the Mustang numbers will vary from dyno to dyno...

the Dodge boys invite everybody over to their forum.






I resemble that comment.... http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gifEdited by: Big Russ

SURE WISHED JUICE WASNT PISSED OFF SO YALL WOULD KNOW WHAT HIS TRUCK DOES TOMARROW http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

maybe his mom will know

YEA POSSIBLE SO, MAYBE SHE WILL LEAVE HER ROOST AT THE NWBOMBER SITE AND COME REPORT TO US

I'd say around 100HP less...

CHECK OUT THE NEW POLL IN THIS FORUM AND POST YOUR GUESShttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clown.gif

On the far left side of your key board, there is a key labled Caps Lock. Turn it off! You are looking like someone using his computer for the first time.

I would have to agree with hdmax. Using all caps is very poor forum etiquette.


Quotes from other forums:


The first rule is that sending e-mail messages in ALL CAPS is yelling ...



ALL CAPS
INDICATE YELLING, AND NO ONE LIKES TO BE YELLED AT!


ALL CAPS, Spelling, Punctuation and Grammar Don't post using ALL CAPITAL LETTERS ... electronic
world, it means you're yelling and it's not good forum etiquette


THE USE OF ALL CAPS (LIKE THIS) IS EQUATED WITH YELLING


Etiquette and Rules: All caps are not kosher. This is considered yelling
in any electronic forum.


Well, you get the idea. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gifEdited by: Max Power

Hey guys give it up. Peanut has heard this many times on the other forum. He doesn't get it or does it just to piss people off.

Well, if he's doing it to piss people off, then it's pretty easy for all of us to ignore (him). If he doesn't get it, well then I dunno...


Kinda disappointing/annoying, however you look at it.

I would have to agree with hdmax. Using all caps is very poor forum etiquette.


Quotes from other forums:


The first rule is that sending e-mail messages in ALL CAPS is yelling ...



ALL CAPS





INDICATE YELLING, AND NO ONE LIKES TO BE YELLED AT!


ALL CAPS, Spelling, Punctuation and Grammar Don't post using ALL CAPITAL LETTERS ... electronic
world, it means you're yelling and it's not good forum etiquette


THE USE OF ALL CAPS (LIKE THIS) IS EQUATED WITH YELLING


Etiquette and Rules: All caps are not kosher. This is considered yelling
in any electronic forum.


Well, you get the idea. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif





AWWWW IM SO SORRY THAT YOU GUYS HAVE YOUR POOR LITTLE FEELINGS HURThttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cry.gif. ILL ATTEMPT TO DO BETTER, BUT I CANNT PROMISE YOU ANYTHING, OK? MAXPOWER YOU SOUND LIKE A BITCHING WOMAN, COMPLAINING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT DONT MAKE A DAMN. ARE YOU HORMONALhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clown.gif??
Edited by: PEANUTGRWR

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cry.gifhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Disapprove.gif POUTING CUZ JOE E IS GONNA IGNORE ME.

AWWWW IM SO SORRY THAT YOU GUYS HAVE YOUR POOR LITTLE FEELINGS HURThttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cry.gif. ILL ATTEMPT TO DO BETTER, BUT I CANNT PROMISE YOU ANYTHING, OK? MAXPOWER YOU SOUND LIKE A BITCHING WOMAN, COMPLAINING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT DONT MAKE A DAMN. ARE YOU HORMONALhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clown.gif??



Actually I could care less. No feelings hurt here. It really doesn't bother me a bit. I was just trying to inform you in case you were not aware (for your benefit not mine.) Obviously you are aware and you are just too ignorant go by the book.


Go ahead, continue typing in all caps. People will try to help you out in the future again and you will insult them again. In the end, your still the one looking stupid.


Edited by: Max Power

In the end, your still the one looking stupid.----------LMAO YOURE THE ONE THAT IS MAKING A STINK OVER POINTLESS BS. SO IF I WERE YOU I WOULD RETHINK THAT STATEMENT. LIGHTEN UP, IS THIS A DIESEL SITE OR A GRAMMER SITE?????????????? BONEHEADhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif Edited by: PEANUTGRWR

There is a certain amount of courtesy and consideration expected. You don't seem to understand this. Caps get hard to read and it is considered a form of yelling.





You clearly don't care and people have accepted it from you in the past. Doesn't mean everyone will or should.

I see I struck a nerve http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Evil Smile.gif Maybe you should think about that before you attack someone for innocently trying to help you out. Have a nice day.

Without taking sides... lets not go any further with this.

I'm gonna close this topic as it stands.

You are all free to open a new one and start fresh.