I like the fact no lines are cut in the installation of this product. Is there any way to install a lift pump in with this and still not cut anything? Suggestions?

I have lift pumps on my truck and cutting isn't required. you have a couple options. i've seen people use the TTS pumps after my filter as their bracket mounts near the connection point where the outlet of my kit taps into.

on my truck i did it a bit different- i come out the tank, then go into 1 lift pump which is screwed into the inlet of my filter head. then i have a single pump mounted on the TTS bracket which is next after the filter kit. it then uses the QD fitting to connect to where i normally connect my kit if there wen't lift pumps. so its entirely doable.

the major difference is i have 1 pump before the filter and one after, as oppsed to having both of them after. i made this new filter head very stout so you can hang a pump from the inlet if you wish.

I have lift pumps on my truck and cutting isn't required. you have a couple options. i've seen people use the TTS pumps after my filter as their bracket mounts near the connection point where the outlet of my kit taps into.

on my truck i did it a bit different- i come out the tank, then go into 1 lift pump which is screwed into the inlet of my filter head. then i have a single pump mounted on the TTS bracket which is next after the filter kit. it then uses the QD fitting to connect to where i normally connect my kit if there wen't lift pumps. so its entirely doable.

the major difference is i have 1 pump before the filter and one after, as oppsed to having both of them after. i made this new filter head very stout so you can hang a pump from the inlet if you wish.

Thanks for explaining how one might attach lift pumps to the Nictane filter system. Now that I have the Nictane installed, my question(s) are 1. why are lift pumps necessary, and 2. why are they used in pairs? 3. are they necessary for a mostly stock vehicle, or highly modified ones?

I appreciate the feedback,This may be my next project. And congratulations on the Diesel Power challenge!
Chris

Check out my garage link,

I have relocated my Nicktane Filter forward of the fuel cooler with my own custom made brackets.

Dual lift pumps push through the Nicktane.

T;) NY

Thanks. I do think if you run the TTS or Kennedy pumps that you should have at least one of them before the filter to keep it pressurized.

I appreciate the feedback,This may be my next project. And congratulations on the Diesel Power challenge!
Chris

I just hung a KD single under that flat cross member plate between the driveshaft and tank. Took about 10" of hose to get from the sender to the pump then ran the disch hose back across the tank to the Nicktane filter inlet. Then I ran the hose from the Nicktane outlet to the QD by the cooler with the supplied QD fitting.

I may just run the one before the filter, have to see how the cash flows. Thanks everyone

which way would be better to run them both before the filter or one befor and one after if i am going to be running bio in my i will be useing all the way from 20% to 100%

Thanks for explaining how one might attach lift pumps to the Nictane filter system. Now that I have the Nictane installed, my question(s) are 1. why are lift pumps necessary, and 2. why are they used in pairs? 3. are they necessary for a mostly stock vehicle, or highly modified ones?

I would be interested in the answer to this question as well. Can anyone shed any light on this as I am ready to buy a Nicktane and want to do it right.

TIA

the little blue pumps aren't good suckers, so ideally it would be best to have them both before the filter. i've had both before and now have one before and one after. both scenarios work fine but if i were doing it over again i would probably put both before. the pumps may (and i only say may) not last quite as long (but they have a very long life anyways) if they are before the filters but i would still put at least one if not both before.


I would be interested in the answer to this question as well. Can anyone shed any light on this as I am ready to buy a Nicktane and want to do it right.

TIA

Thanks for explaining how one might attach lift pumps to the Nictane filter system. Now that I have the Nictane installed, my question(s) are 1. why are lift pumps necessary, and 2. why are they used in pairs? 3. are they necessary for a mostly stock vehicle, or highly modified ones?

Hey Nick, could you answer this one to? I installed the Nictane kit and no pumps. It seems to work great!!! Do I need to get pumps and if I do, why? Then which ones if I do. I am just curious as to that. I plan on keeping my vehicle stock as long as possible as far as tuners etc.

Thanks,

you don't need the pumps. they help keep positive pressure on the low-pressur gear pump that feeds the cp3 which gives us a bit more fuel to play with for making power.. however it won't affect the performance of a stock truck. it will make your filters get used up a bit more evenly but IMHO they aren't necessary. if you want to add one for good measure just get one pump and not two as you won't need the second one.

Hey Nick, could you answer this one to? I installed the Nictane kit and no pumps. It seems to work great!!! Do I need to get pumps and if I do, why? Then which ones if I do. I am just curious as to that. I plan on keeping my vehicle stock as long as possible as far as tuners etc.

Thanks,

you don't need the pumps. they help keep positive pressure on the low-pressur gear pump that feeds the cp3 which gives us a bit more fuel to play with for making power.. however it won't affect the performance of a stock truck. it will make your filters get used up a bit more evenly but IMHO they aren't necessary. if you want to add one for good measure just get one pump and not two as you won't need the second one.

Thanks Nick !!

Nick, Is this a TTS that screws directly to your filter head?

on my truck i did it a bit different- i come out the tank, then go into 1 lift pump which is screwed into the inlet of my filter head.

I'm going with this pretty soon. I think I could swing the cost of the 2 pump setup.
With a 120 HP downloader and an MP8 or EDGE will I need 1 or 2 TTS pumps?

i would probably get two if you can afford it just to be safe.

I'm going with this pretty soon. I think I could swing the cost of the 2 pump setup.
With a 120 HP downloader and an MP8 or EDGE will I need 1 or 2 TTS pumps?

it comes out of the tank, goes into one of the pumps, then the fitting on the outlet of the pump screws onto the filter head. the second pump is mounted on the bracket the kit came with (by the cooler)

Nick, Is this a TTS that screws directly to your filter head?

i would probably get two if you can afford it just to be safe.
Thank you Nick. Chris

The KD pump will fit with a little creative plumbing, there isn't much room under there so not many variations on how to hang it.....

Gonna have to plumb it off the mounting base and fanagle it in there, but it can be done....:cool:

A few questions. I want to install the Nicktane fuel filter and twin TTS lift pumps on my LBZ. Can i install both without cutting any fuel lines, or dropping the tank? Nick, do you have the stock pickup in your tank? Will i get any check engine lights or any wierd truck behavior? How easy to change the Nicktane filter? Thanks in advance for your help.

Congratulations Nick on winning Diesel Power Challenge :ro)

HI,

you don't need to cut any of the fuel lines. you just remove the OEM line and replace it with the line supplied in the kit.

dropping the tank depends on the yeah of your truck. you don't need to lower it unless your truck is a 2004 LB7. anything before (2001-2003) or after (2004.5 LLY+) doesn't require dropping the tank.

i have a TTS pickup in my tank but i'm pushing my motor more than most. the kit doesn't require a modified pickup if that's what you mean. I have the TTS pumps on my truck and don't get any fuel pressured related codes. i've tried serveral lift pumps and on my truck (they all seem to act different) anything over 9psi causes it to lope at idle. the TTS pumps only make about 6 psi.

changing the filter is easier than changing the OEM filter.


A few questions. I want to install the Nicktane fuel filter and twin TTS lift pumps on my LBZ. Can i install both without cutting any fuel lines, or dropping the tank? Nick, do you have the stock pickup in your tank? Will i get any check engine lights or any wierd truck behavior? How easy to change the Nicktane filter? Thanks in advance for your help.

Congratulations Nick on winning Diesel Power Challenge :ro)

Another question I just thought of. With the Nicktane and dual TTS lift pumps will the procedure for changing the OEM underhood fuel filter change? Will I be able to prime the system and bleed air out? Will the TTS lift pumps allow flow through if they are not on? Thanks in advance.

you can do a couple things for the oem filter- you can wire up the priming wire in the TTS electronics so you can run the pumps w/o the truck running, or you can just use the priming pump as the pumps will flow through when off. i've ran my off before for testing and it runs fine.

Another question I just thought of. With the Nicktane and dual TTS lift pumps will the procedure for changing the OEM underhood fuel filter change? Will I be able to prime the system and bleed air out? Will the TTS lift pumps allow flow through if they are not on? Thanks in advance.

so are the lift pumps not always on when your truck is running? do you just turn them on when your going to run it hard? would it hurt to have them on all the time?

Mine is on as soon as oil pressure hits 5psi, so yes basically on all the time, but I am only running a single.

on my white truck they are both on always. on the red one i use the TTS electronics and i think the first one runs all the time the engine is making oil pressure. the second one is activated on boost.

so why go through the trouble of hooking up an oil pressure switch if its basically always on? cant you just hook them to an ignition source?

Safety measures, that way the fuel pump doesn't fuel any fire incase of a major wreck...

if the engine isn't making oil pressue (ie not running) but the ignition is on the pump doesn't run.

so why go through the trouble of hooking up an oil pressure switch if its basically always on? cant you just hook them to an ignition source?

i got ya. saftey first

It's been a long time since I started this thread (8-25-06) and I just now ordered my pumps :( . Nick; Seems like I looked in your garage a little while ago and the pics of the TTS setup were gone and looks like a different setup was in use. If I'm right could you post the pics of the TTS install if you still have them ? I'm really inclined to install them as the instructions say but I also want to get the most performance out of my investment. Thanks for all your help, Chris

I'm not sure which pics you are talking about, but i don't have the truck here to take photos of.. i looked through my pics on my computer and don't see any. right now i've got on pump hanging off the inlet to my filter head. the other pump is mounted to the bracket supplied with the tts pumps. i originalyl had both pumps on the tts bracket and wanted to see if i could notice a difference moving one pump to the filter's inlet as technically i think it should be better. i could never notice a difference either way.

That's the pictures I was talking about. I don't see them anymore. Figured the aeromotive setup was the custom fuel setup and it replaced the TTS. But if you think they work just as well either way I'll just install them by the instructions and go from there. Thanks Nick.