: Sorry boys and Walt
manyholes 08-22-2006, 02:09 PM hey guys just wanted to post a retraction about an earlier part in my sig about Walts exhaust system on my truck with the hangers, i had got my exhaust hung at a shop in edmonton, cant think of the name but they're on 75 st. they welded these hangers to the system that failed, ive been talking to walt about warrenty and sent him the pictures that were posted on here and he stated that the hangers were neither supplied by SSDiesel nor installed by SSDiesel, his system didnt have any hangers welded on it, i made a mistake on my end about a good system so sorry bout that guys. ill make sure of everything next time.
I do have to comment on walts customer service tho, he has offered to help me fix my pipes with whatever he can thats reasonable for an issue that isnt his. so steaksauce go ***** yourself. thats all i got to say guys
CanadianRigger 08-22-2006, 03:04 PM My guess would be to go back to the shop that frigged it up then and tell em to correct it asap!
WTG on setting everyone straight!
wagonwheeler 08-22-2006, 04:57 PM Thanks for the clarification.
Are the provided hangers typically clamp on? My system should arrive tomorrow and I didn't figure on pulling out the MIG but can if necessary.
Also, do these systems come w/ a donut gasket for the downpipe at the turbo? If not, who's got a NAPA number for one?
TIA
Chaser
Stingray454 08-22-2006, 05:07 PM Also, do these systems come w/ a donut gasket for the downpipe at the turbo?
The downpipe at the turbo doesn't have a donut gasket. The connection is gasket-less, and uses the special stainless steel band clamp. The only issue is the bolt that holds the band clamp on tends to strip easily when loosening it for some reason, even though there is no corrosion from being SS.
The only donut gaskets are on the crossover pipe where it connects to the exhaust manifolds. If you bought a replacement crossover pipe, it usually doesn't come with new donut gaskets - I got mine at the dealer.
joispoi 08-22-2006, 05:21 PM Thanks for the clarification.
Are the provided hangers typically clamp on? My system should arrive tomorrow and I didn't figure on pulling out the MIG but can if necessary.
Also, do these systems come w/ a donut gasket for the downpipe at the turbo? If not, who's got a NAPA number for one?
TIA
Chaser
If you got the ssdiesel exhaust system, you're going to need to do a little work on those hangers. I cut the hangers off the stock exhaust and welded them to the supplied clamps from ssdiesel. Not too difficult, just figure a little extra time for that.
96GMC6.5L 08-22-2006, 05:43 PM Thanks for setting that straight with everyone. Truly appreciated.
Jacob
jifaire 09-01-2006, 11:25 PM Thanks for the clarification, Manyholes.
I'm glad you found a good shop to work on your truck, without driving to Calgary (or testing out CR's Mig skills!@!!!)
If you guys are getting together for beer (REAL Canuck Beer... eat your hearts out, my American friends), gimme a PM ... I'll some down and buy a bunch.
Hoping to be there next weekend, anyway.
Ciao@!
CanadianDiesel 09-02-2006, 12:29 AM i hear beer, where at?
gmctd 09-02-2006, 12:00 PM You're absolved - but, as pennance you must give a brief description of Willie's Puddle, BC...............
CanadianRigger 09-02-2006, 02:42 PM I've been there (Williams Lake, BC), nothing special, good fishin in the area though. Used to live 60 minutes south of there before i decided to see what all this hype about working in the oil patch was. Planned on spending 5 years in Alberta..... It's been over 25 now!
gmctd 09-02-2006, 02:58 PM Williams Lake, eh? Somehow doesn't sound as interesting as Willie's Puddle.
Intriguing, the way places up there still go by the names given by the miners\panners\diggers\pipe-fitters.
Fred482` 09-02-2006, 05:04 PM the bolt that holds the band clamp on tends to strip easily when loosening it for some reason, even though there is no corrosion from being SS.
The reason is that the bolt is small ("1/4") and fine thread. It is also subjected to a lot of heat. This adds up to an easily stripped fastener. :o:
HighSierra86 09-02-2006, 10:34 PM just a note for those installing the ssdiesel exhaust: i instaled mine with no welding at all. All you need to do is a little custom bending of the supplied hangers. i was very happy with the entire system.
CanadianRigger 09-02-2006, 11:19 PM Tell that to this guy. (http://www.scam2.com/showthread.php?p=543)
Seems he has a little trouble with this system for some reason and to my knowledge has never purchased one.
I've been waiting for over a day now to be called a troll, i feel so left out now! :muahaha:
Joey D 09-03-2006, 12:16 AM I had a problem with the SSdiesel supply exhaust as well. I called Walt a few times about it and while he insisted it was my motor mounts sagging causing the downpipe to hit the frame but he sent me a new downpipe quickly which had the end where it changes to 4in welded on at a different angle to allow it to not hit the frame as much. I was unhappy with the hangers and the fit and after some time of messing with it I cut it off and run just his downpipe and 4' of pipe and thats it. I never bothered to call him after he sent me the downpipe so my loss I guess.
I had much better luck with the 4in BD exhaust I had on it before. It rusted out after 4 new england winters, due to the citys and states running way to much salt on the roads
jifaire 09-03-2006, 12:24 PM I've been waiting for over a day now to be called a troll, i feel so left out now! :muahaha:
Sorry CR - you can be a TROLL, too. It's sort of an exclusive club, I think.
Feel better now? :lol:
jimmyjack1 09-03-2006, 02:19 PM i also just put the 4inch exhaust from ssdiesel on my girlfriends truck, hangers suck had bend them to work right also ssdiesel advertises that exhaust as thiers when its really heartthorbs. I wish i knew that i would have just ordered i from them its cheeper i bet
jifaire 09-03-2006, 08:42 PM i also just put the 4inch exhaust from ssdiesel on my girlfriends truck, hangers suck had bend them to work right also ssdiesel advertises that exhaust as thiers when its really heartthorbs. I wish i knew that i would have just ordered i from them its cheeper i bet
Where did you find it, JimmyJack?
I am looking through the Heartthrobs catalogue, and can't find a 4" for the 6.5 TurboDiesel anywhere (maybe I'm reading-challenged)
They've got lots of stuff for gas engines, and lots of duals, but I can't see anything that's 4".
Primer 09-03-2006, 09:39 PM It's on the 4" & 5" Diesel Kits page down near the bottom. There is no link to it anymore it seems. Is it special order now?
gmctd 09-03-2006, 10:28 PM Very few vendors make their own products - it is called VAV, or value added vending.
Find a product with good markup, put your sticker on the box, name a price, and it becomes 'your' product.
That system may be sold by summit, jeg's, edelbrock, etc, and even some of your local speed shops - their price may well reflect any of various available options, or not.
While that allows you to find a price you're comfortable with, comparison shopping does not always guarantee satisfaction, because your 'comfortable' price may be the less-optioned product.
Stainless steel vs aluminized steel comes to mind, hangers welded on, or hangers supplied, or use the hangers offa your orig system, etc
Not even to besmirch the vendor, tho, even considering hype - it was your choice.
Caveat emptor, eh?
CanadianRigger 09-03-2006, 10:47 PM Very well said!
HighSierra86 09-05-2006, 11:54 AM i also just put the 4inch exhaust from ssdiesel on my girlfriends truck, hangers suck had bend them to work right also ssdiesel advertises that exhaust as thiers when its really heartthorbs. I wish i knew that i would have just ordered i from them its cheeper i bet
If you noticed, the hangers ARE bendable. I have yet to see and exhaust system where no bending was required. If anyone is having alot of trouble installing this system, then dont bother to do any other work on your truck. Take it to a shop and have them do it. Your lack of mechanical knowlage shouldnt put a bad name on a product.
Stingray454 09-05-2006, 01:46 PM If you noticed, the hangers ARE bendable. I have yet to see and exhaust system where no bending was required.
I didn't have to bend anything when I installed the Pinnacle exhaust system on my truck. I spent some time lining everything up right before clamping all the pipes together, but the result was no bending or modifications needed and a good fit.
I think some people rush the job, get frustrated and impatient, bolt everything together prematurely, and figure out the hangers later, often requiring modification.
jimmyjack1 09-05-2006, 08:34 PM I have no problem in n***er rigging the make them work. My problem is i shouldn't have to bend hangers to make it work when i pay a couple hunderd dollars for it, second thing the kit for years 92-00 BUT the hangers only fit 92-93 and it say 94-00 you'll need to come up with something different. Then why the F*** do they ask me what year my truck is when i'm not going to get the right hangers anyway:wtf:
Joey D 09-05-2006, 09:02 PM If you noticed, the hangers ARE bendable. I have yet to see and exhaust system where no bending was required. If anyone is having alot of trouble installing this system, then dont bother to do any other work on your truck. Take it to a shop and have them do it. Your lack of mechanical knowlage shouldnt put a bad name on a product.
I don't want to get into trashing this exhaust more than I have to but without seeing what I delt with on my exhaust you have no clue in what your talking about.
My problems started with the down pipe with the end welded on at the wrong angle and only to prove my point was the replacement part I got from SS was welded at a different angle, made it better but didn't fix it completely. The hangers suck plain and simple and the fitment of the pipe sucks.
I was running the BD 4in before and replaced it due to rust and made a choice based on what I read here to go with SSdiesel. Maybe my idea of a good product that fits well and does not run 1/2 " away from the rear shock and hits the frame rail on the front is different from yours.
HighSierra86 09-06-2006, 09:26 PM I don't want to get into trashing this exhaust more than I have to but without seeing what I delt with on my exhaust you have no clue in what your talking about.
My problems started with the down pipe with the end welded on at the wrong angle and only to prove my point was the replacement part I got from SS was welded at a different angle, made it better but didn't fix it completely. The hangers suck plain and simple and the fitment of the pipe sucks.
I was running the BD 4in before and replaced it due to rust and made a choice based on what I read here to go with SSdiesel. Maybe my idea of a good product that fits well and does not run 1/2 " away from the rear shock and hits the frame rail on the front is different from yours.
It is plain to see that someone f***ed up with the downpipe on your system, which gives you reason to be p/o. i would be too. And as for the system being 1/2 away from the rear shock...right on. mine was the same way. Gave me cause to worry, but it never became a problem. I think what im getting at here is that you are working with a $400 (if i recall correctally) exhaust system, not a $700 kit. So in my eyes, i think the system was worth every penny of my money, even if it did require some alterations. Why exactally does it need alterations when its made specifically for one model truck? i dont know.
But as everything else goes, you get what you pay for. If someone was to make a $700 system for these trucks im sure it would prolly be better than this system. BUT in the meantime i guess everyone is gonna have to be creative with this one and make it work.
triwestoilfield 09-06-2006, 11:17 PM Any one in Northern or Central Alberta.Might want to check out Tims Muffler in Leduc.
Tim has done the exhaust work on all my p/u and cars. He has a heckuva shop and can make miracles happen under the hoist.
He does everything from pre-fab to bending and is reasonably priced.He does this stuff to support his Sprint Car racing habit.
IMO.
manyholes 09-07-2006, 09:57 AM thanks for the shop up aorund this neck of the woods triwest
gotdiesel 09-07-2006, 11:17 AM I installed my SSD 4" system about 2 weeks ago. Yeah the hangers are for
the earlier yr model trucks (I just cut the straps off).
The pipes fit up fine,the down pipe is .250" or so from the frame,
but the rest is clear. I have an inch or more from the
shock to the tail pipe. I cut my stock rod hangers off and reworked and
welded them to the supplied clamps (+ a 3" that I bought) and use the
stock rubbers in the stock locations. I have pics I just need to get them off the camera and into my computer and I will post them.
I am happy with the price and the product.
I am very mechanically inclined, as I am in the metal fab business, and have use of many tools and machines.
175 ton press will reshape any rod hanger that GM used on our trucks .:lol:
Greg
gmctd 09-07-2006, 01:01 PM 175 ton press could reshape your truck.......................
jimmyjack1 09-07-2006, 08:35 PM Just clearing things up about what i said i happy with the price , the fitment and really i love the the look but its just was the hangers. I guess half the reason i was so mad about it was, i geared up to do it in my garage (on my back) cut the stock exhaust off before opening the door all the way and lookin at the hangers first.but what guy does that:rolleyes:
Joey D 09-07-2006, 09:17 PM I just expected more for the price. I can deal with hangers sucking or not even getting them but pipe placement was poor. My BD exhaust had a great fit to all the pipes but the hangers sucked but with the pipes fitting so well I didn't mind as much.
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