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ottomatic
07-31-2006, 04:02 PM
Anyone have info on which is the best way or system to lower a 06 EC,SB Duramax Chevy 4X4. I don't ever plan to take off road. ( eventually plan to turn it into a "sleeper". I have an uncorked XR650R for off roading.
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Ruben Z
07-31-2006, 04:54 PM
How much are we talking about here? unless you remove some springs I dont see a real way to lower the truck without getting expensive. The truck has a tall frame, tall springs, big rear axle etc. Maybe sell it and buy a 1500 2x4.

afp1
07-31-2006, 05:13 PM
There are companies that make t-bar keys that allow 2-3" of lowering.

BigCountry
07-31-2006, 09:23 PM
Check out McGaughys or DJM. Both have 3/5 kits that will work with a 4x4.

6 Shooter
07-31-2006, 09:29 PM
When I wanna lower (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v631/cyal8tr/00MN6MYRoadsterRoute66-1.jpg), I just jump in da Corvette and go for a Road Trip! :grd:

BLK Smoke
08-01-2006, 03:20 PM
Add a lift because fat chicks cant jump

deereagtech
08-01-2006, 03:24 PM
WHy would you want to lower a diesel buy a car if u wanna lowrider;)

ottomatic
08-01-2006, 06:33 PM
WHy would you want to lower a diesel buy a car if u wanna lowrider;)

After spending 10 hrs a day in a jacked up diesel such as this http://www.machinerytrader.com/images/Machinery/fullsize/72946357.jpg
all others are just.............................trucks :rolleyes:

Besides the LBZ has the potential to be a vette and stang killer.

stxfarmer
08-01-2006, 07:45 PM
IMHO you need to use lowering torsion keys for the front and a 4 link airbag system on the back. When you lower the back you need to have something that will not allow any further lowering if you put weight in the truck, an airbag system does just this. If weight is not an issue then lowering shackles on the back will be fine.

BigCountry
08-03-2006, 10:21 AM
How's this for lower?
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h197/1LOWDIESEL/DSCF0579-1.jpg
:ro)

Ruben Z
08-03-2006, 12:27 PM
Poor truck. That looks retarded.

deereagtech
08-03-2006, 02:29 PM
Definatly havta agree with you 200%

stackedup
08-03-2006, 08:52 PM
i have a 05 2500 duramax its been lowered 6 inchs pm me if u want to know were to get ur stuff

BigCountry
08-03-2006, 11:31 PM
i have a 05 2500 duramax its been lowered 6 inchs pm me if u want to know were to get ur stuff

I want all the info you've got. I Need Pics!:cool2:

rankingadam
08-04-2006, 12:37 AM
:badidea: this thread is terrible lower a duramax-:t come on.

CwF
08-05-2006, 10:35 AM
For my first, I'll start here! I too want to lower my 06 2500. Oh ya, I also think it is a legit think to do. Ya see, the stock suspension is optimized for nothing, yet does well with alot of weight. Empty, it leaves alot begging for change.
I see alot of lifted trucks driving around empty with their crappy rides and smiling pilots, and I think its pretty stupid. A gasser 2500HD? Come on, what kind of mixed up truck is that?
The GM's easily have the most to work with in creating a PLEASANT diesel 4X4. The front IFS is superior for OTR duty. The Duramax and Allison are supurbly refined and out perform ALL gassers in every category including efficiency.
So, lowered, to the owners intended use, seems an obvious choice. Stackedup's truck looks excellent. I would guess, if he did it right, it rides, handles, corners, and TOWS much better than stock, and simply embarrasses anything lifted. For the record, I consider cranking the bars a hack, but I'm ignorant on the results so far...IMO this truck is not the best choice for serious off road duty. I know a little about that...
I will be looking into the 'keys' to lower the front. Still cant figure out the wheel/tires choices. The AirLift bags or complete Road Tamer looks to solve the rear end issues? I'm not sure on the results, but removing a leaf and a longer rear shackle may be the quick cheap fix for the rear. It is a truck that I'll use for some hauling and towing, so adjustability in the rear is required. Are there any adjustable solutions for the front???
My 150 mile loop consist of 70% highway, 20% fireroad, and 10% town. I range form 5500-12000 ft. but the LBZ D/A took care of that issue. So the stance, reduced spring rate with increased damping, is my first priority.

neubauej
08-05-2006, 12:24 PM
I think for a dropped stance without getting crazy you would have to get a torsion bar drop kit and (as already stated) a shackle kit for the rears if weight is not an issue, or an airbag setup if it is. :) I wanna see pics when you are done! :ro)

stackedup
08-05-2006, 01:36 PM
if u want to see a lowered 2500hd check out my garage please leave a comment please remeber opinoins are like butts everybody has one and they all stink

neubauej
08-05-2006, 03:30 PM
I like the stance, it looks pretty good to me. :)

duramaxdavid
08-05-2006, 05:44 PM
Looks horrible. YOu need to loose the stacks.
How's this for lower?
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h197/1LOWDIESEL/DSCF0579-1.jpg
:ro)

BigCountry
08-05-2006, 07:46 PM
Looks horrible. YOu need to loose the stacks.

It's not mine, just a 450hp 900ftlb monster that's roaming the streets! Wait until he finishes it up, I'm sure it'll be one bad *** drag racing rig.

catch2otwo
08-05-2006, 08:34 PM
sweet truck big country. at least its different.

BlueOx03
08-07-2006, 05:34 PM
Different aint always good. I this case terrable. The guy claims 475hp and mid 13s with just a bully dog tuner and PPE boost controller....
He also claims that he talked to the editor of diesel power and they want to do a feature on it when it's done. I guess we'll see...

catch2otwo
08-07-2006, 08:27 PM
i dont get why you guys think its so bad. i personally would think its cool to lay frame when i park it, obviously he isnt driving around like that. whether or not its as fast as he claims is beyond me

BSeery
08-07-2006, 08:47 PM
When I wanna lower (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v631/cyal8tr/00MN6MYRoadsterRoute66-1.jpg), I just jump in da Corvette and go for a Road Trip! :grd:

Yeah, I got one of those too (red 1980). However, I still want to lower my 2003 2500 GMC so I can get in and out with ease.

So far it looks like you either replace the lower a-arms, the spindle and the t-bar at the front and remove the overload leaf and other work for the back.

stackedup
08-08-2006, 09:36 PM
i have a full air ride available it will lower comes with upper and lower control arms and everything else u need or there are plenty of other options but guys remember if u want to lower it more than 4" in the rear u will have to do a c notch if u want to slam it and still tow it will cost ya

BlueOx03
08-08-2006, 09:56 PM
i dont get why you guys think its so bad. i personally would think its cool to lay frame when i park it, obviously he isnt driving around like that. whether or not its as fast as he claims is beyond me

I aggree laying frame while parked is kinda neat. But having the assend of the truck draging around with the front sitting stock looks dumb. And yes he does drive it like that, he bags about ripping rol pans off of it on another forum...

catch2otwo
08-09-2006, 07:11 AM
ahh well in that case, thats kinda kiddish lol

BigCountry
08-09-2006, 01:45 PM
Yeah, that's pretty damn silly. He knows it looks retarded, he has all of the stuff to bag the front from what he says. So it won't be that way forever. It will me badass IMO when he gets done. For now, he's got the cali look going to extreme.:eek:

Sneeky Pete
08-11-2006, 04:57 PM
Well I personally like it alot.....Opinions are like butts and everyone is entitled to them.....

The *** draggin, drag of roll pans thing is a "Minitruckin" thing,and honestly even us true old school minitruckers think its childish as well.....

Im looking to lower my 06 DRW 4x4 Crew......I need it for towing...Im looking to get as low as possible with out affecting payload. Im also wondering how much lower I can get it stock and how I go about doing so...

The 4 link set-up seems pricy....Is there any other alternative? Why are the shakles not recomended for towing? Would seem to me that as long as they are made with same streangth metal they would be just a viable...Im no engineer...Care to enlighten?

Were can I score the parts to lower and bag the front if the 4 link is my only option on the back?

BigCountry
08-11-2006, 07:58 PM
Well I personally like it alot.....Opinions are like butts and everyone is entitled to them.....

The *** draggin, drag of roll pans thing is a "Minitruckin" thing,and honestly even us true old school minitruckers think its childish as well.....

Im looking to lower my 06 DRW 4x4 Crew......I need it for towing...Im looking to get as low as possible with out affecting payload. Im also wondering how much lower I can get it stock and how I go about doing so...

The 4 link set-up seems pricy....Is there any other alternative? Why are the shakles not recomended for towing? Would seem to me that as long as they are made with same streangth metal they would be just a viable...Im no engineer...Care to enlighten?

Were can I score the parts to lower and bag the front if the 4 link is my only option on the back?

Easiest way would be air ride tech strongarms click the link and scroll doll down to the "00-04 GM 1 Ton Dually" http://www.ridetech.com/productinfo/controlarms_trucks.asp
It will net you a mild 9" drop hahaha.

wealthywitetrash
08-11-2006, 09:12 PM
that truck is pretty trick just needs the front done and some rims and would be set must just be a cali thing.... thats wat i eventually want one dmax slammed scrapper style and one lifted like i have now... slam that bad boy

Sneeky Pete
08-11-2006, 09:35 PM
must just be a cali thing...




Ya I agree.....Im a California Native and been in love with lowered trucks since I was about 7..........Really...It must be a Cali thing :ro)


Thanks Big C.......But I do beleive a 9" drop would require a C-notch...Thus destoying its towing capability...So thats out,But I was thinking a combination of a few things would net that and maybe more with out disturbing the integrity of the frame.

Start with the 4-link and front control arms and spindles 4" there, remove the bushings between the body and frame 1" drop to the body there and a 9" Stock floor body drop :eek: and a 10" stock floor bed drop :eek: :eek:

Dont think that will quite lay frame but it should get the rockers pretty dam close to the ground when laid out and evenly might I add with out a C-Notch. I dont think all that work is worth not being able to lay rockers completely.....So I think I might be building my first lifted truck ;)

BigCountry
08-11-2006, 10:06 PM
No Idea how that would be possible, would think you would need a combination of stock floor BD and Traditional BD to acheive that amount of drop. But no matter how you look at it, laying rocker without puting your head through the roof of the cab would likely require a notch. Which I might add, people do all the time and still tow serios loads very safely. I would just back half the truck if I wanted to lay frame myself. And I would have no problems towing IMO. Not knocking your idea at all, I'd love to see it.

BTW- It's not just a cali thing:ro)

Sneeky Pete
08-12-2006, 10:19 PM
I dont know why I said stock floor.I knew the diffrence..Just a brain fart I guess...I meant a 9/10" traditional with out disturbing the frame.My point to all that was really thats alot of work to work around the frame..

I agree that a back half and a mild traditional body drop would be the best way to get the rockers on the ground and hide the ugly frame....But,I disagree about the integrity of the whole thing. Sure dragsters back-half all the time but their fully caged...Under extreme load that frame would not stay strait unless alot of attention was payed to that from the begining....So a C-notch...IMO would greatly hurt this trucks tow/pay load unless alot more than a notch was thrown in there

In the end...The trucks too dam new to cut up the floor and the frame just to lay out......If I had another 50k to throw at another truck maybe Id do it...But I dont...So a mild lift will have to do....Thanks for the info guys..

BigCountry
08-12-2006, 11:33 PM
In the end...The trucks too dam new to cut up the floor and the frame just to lay out......If I had another 50k to throw at another truck maybe Id do it...But I dont...So a mild lift will have to do....Thanks for the info guys..

Can't argue with that logic!:cool2: