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RVER
07-19-2006, 07:42 PM
Went for the 50,000 mile transmission fluid and filter change. when I returned my mechanic says ,"Wow", your fluid smelled really burned and was almost silver in color there was so many pices of metal in the drained fluid. " He flushed it and put new filter and fluid it in and replaced the magnet of course on filter.
I said to him, so maybe I should do another flush and replacement of fluid and filter at 75,000 miles" and he said " Ya, if it goes that far". YIKES that worries me.
I pull a fifthwheel about once a month for about 100-150 miles each way so this Alison tranny should not be self destructing. I think there is a 100,000 mile warranty on it but I would rather have a good tranny and not have to argue with the dealer that the tranny is self destructing who knows if he has a good mechanic to rebuild the tranny. Sh-t! Help"

bernie165
07-19-2006, 08:48 PM
Tranny is under the 3 year/36000 mile, so you have been long out of warranty, but I would not sweat it. Fluid always comes out of these trannys with the shiny specks, at least in my experience with fluid changes on the D/A's (I currently service 7 Allisons on D/A's and all of them , the fluid looks the same - darker almost purpleish with shiny mettalic look) What I would look for is large pieces of metal on the magnet. For peace of mind, pull the pan and check that magnet and the bottom of the for large debris. If it is clear, drive it. And for what it is worth,like 90 bucks total, put the long version of the internal filter and Allison deep pan - buys you an extra 3 quarts. Just need to give an Allison dealer the numbers off the passenger side of the tranny. Of course all of this my 2 cents - good luck!!:grd:

RVER
07-23-2006, 07:11 PM
This is a Allison Tranny which I believe has a 100,000 miles warranty. I am worried the dealer is not going to believe my mechanic so will have to wait til it fails which if it is going to do that should do it before 100,000 miles but do not want to get stuck in east snowshoe with a tranny frozen.
The mechanic said the magnet was FULL of METAL pieces on top of the filter but did not take down the pan as it is only to be done when rebuilding a tranny.
I can concerned.

zr2yz125
07-23-2006, 07:16 PM
... but did not take down the pan as it is only to be done when rebuilding a tranny.
I can concerned.

This is BS. I dropped my pan at 3k when doing my initial get-all-the-factor-fluids-out service. I put a new pick up filter in then too.

Mike L.
07-23-2006, 08:14 PM
I question the reported metal in the pan as that is very rare and I question the silver fluid. Think maybe I question your mechanics integrity. The dealer will not believe this and neither do I.
mike

knighte
07-24-2006, 11:09 AM
GM dealerships are only allowed to go so far on working on a Allison Transmission. I would suggest running the truck normally for another 10 - 20k and then have a pan service performed by a Allison shop. Check your yellow pages or contact Allison for the location of one of these facilities. There you will deal with only the truth and pertinent information from the factory trained staff and management.

There IS 100 k warranty. Good Luck.

dmaxalliTech
07-24-2006, 11:16 AM
I think your converter is living a shortened life.

bernie165
07-25-2006, 10:25 PM
I am confused, all my paperwork that came with the truck says 3/36 on the tranny,Allison or not. I would loveit to be 100K but I am sorry, I do not have anything from GM stating such. Can anyone clarify????

dmaxalliTech
07-25-2006, 10:33 PM
Your trans regardless of what it is, is only covered for 3/36. Dealers can "goodwill"warranty up to 5/60

bernie165
07-26-2006, 02:44 PM
Thanks Eric, that was always my read as well. The goodwill thing does work well sometimes, threatening to the stealer that you will call 1-800-I hate GM because you are not satisfied with the stealer usually gets the stealer's attention cus it knocks down their service rating.

blkgmcHD
07-26-2006, 09:13 PM
no no no the motor and the drive trane the trany is under warranty for 100,000 miles and just found out the injectors for 200,000 miles so with that said you need to change your external filter evey 20,000 and the magnet will have some small metal particals on it that is normal. your back door mechanic has no prior experience with thies trans so I would not go back to him.

RVER
07-27-2006, 08:39 PM
Mike L and BLKGMCHD My mechanic is a truck mechanic/diesel mechanic. He said when he got the filter off the magnet was totally filled with metal pieces but also the fluid had metal pieces in it which concerned him since he works with Alison and other trannys and have never seen so much metal in the fluid. Said he expects to see the metal on the magnet, that is the purpose for it but not in fluid so much as what my truck had in it.
Someone ? Dmaxallitech mentioned my "converter" is living a shortened life. What is the converter, what is its purpose and now to test that?
The Allison transmission is warrantied for 100,000 miles so have time but do pull a fifthwheel about 1-2 times a month that is within the GVWR, GAWR etc. and pull for 400 miles round trip at most usually.
This tranny does not skip etc so feels fine but do not want to be stuck in east overshoe when it craps out.
My mechanic is not disreputable, he said for me to bring to the dealer because he was disturbed by the look of the fluid.

Clyde in Colorado
07-27-2006, 10:32 PM
[quote=blkgmcHD;1205627]no no no the motor and the drive trane the trany is under warranty for 100,000 miles and just found out the injectors for 200,000 miles :blahblah:
NOT! Hello?

Firefighter
07-28-2006, 10:59 AM
RVER: Do you have an extended warrantee? If you do not, you are covered until 36,000! Please pay attention.:D

knighte
07-28-2006, 01:33 PM
:stirthepo :stirthepo :stirthepo RVER: Do you have an extended warrantee? If you do not, you are covered until 36,000! Please pay attention.:D

I don't know if there is a difference between HD 2500's 3500's and the Medium Dutys BUT my factory warranty STANDARD from the FACTORY IS 100,000!!!!!

HOWEVER this is not the issue being discussed here!!!



The "converter" being discussed is the torque converter that mounts between the transmission and the engine flywheel. These converters rely upon centrifugal force and the resulting hydraulic pressure to lock in. Converters are used to protect the transmission from the direct hammer of the engine's momentum during shifting. Any description from any certified mechanic that includes the words "chunks of metal" is BAD. Please do yourself the favor of seeing a Allison Transmission Company Store.


:sorrysign

RVER
07-28-2006, 03:23 PM
Ok, I will try to find an ALLISON Tranny sStore although not sure any around here but will give it a great try to find one.
The Allison tranny in the Duramax engine is a 100,000 mi warranty for those who are yelling it is 3yr/36000. The book that came with it and the vehicle says it.

Firefighter
07-28-2006, 04:28 PM
:stirthepo :stirthepo :stirthepo

I don't know if there is a difference between HD 2500's 3500's and the Medium Dutys BUT my factory warranty STANDARD from the FACTORY IS 100,000!!!!!

HOWEVER this is not the issue being discussed here!!!



#1 : I am not trying to stir the pot here. If his book says his ally is covered to 100k then I guess it is. I was merely echoing what DmaxalliTech had stated.
#2 : Go back and read from the beginning of this thread and you will see that it is in fact part of what is being discussed here.

:Wedgie:

knighte
07-28-2006, 04:32 PM
No worries here is a Allison Company Store in your backyard:

New England Detroit Diesel-Allison, Inc.
Distributor

90 Bay State Rd.
Wakefield, MA 01880
Phone: 781-246-1810
Fax: 781-246-1218


Anytime you live in areas with high population you have lots of trucks. Lots of trucks mean lots of transmissions and transmission stores. There are a total of three Allison Company Stores within 100 miles of Westwood MA.

knighte
07-28-2006, 04:46 PM
#1 : I am not trying to stir the pot here. If his book says his ally is covered to 100k then I guess it is. I was merely echoing what DmaxalliTech had stated.
#2 : Go back and read from the beginning of this thread and you will see that it is in fact part of what is being discussed here.

:Wedgie:

I KNOW its being discussed... THAT is why I said it wasn't the "ISSUE."

When has any Allison been sold by GM with a D-MAX that didn't come with a 100,000 mile FACTORY warranty????

Ford has done this since '99!! GM wouldn't have even considered offering less in the marketplace when introducing a new powerplant and transmission in their NEW HD trucks. Look, I don't know for a fact if 100,000 mile warranties were always offered for GM... But I do know for a fact I have yet to meet a DMAX Ally owner without a 100k warranty. The point is:rant: :rant: :rant: that this is not the ISSUE of the thread.

OIL SMELL and METAL CHUNKS and SHAVINGS Censored ARE!!!!

Look, your a good guy with some great equipment, and we all like you.
I was simply trying to limit the :offtopic: conversation as it was detracting from the gentleman's problem.

Mike L.
07-28-2006, 05:16 PM
I KNOW its being discussed... THAT is why I said it wasn't the "ISSUE."

When has any Allison been sold by GM with a D-MAX that didn't come with a 100,000 mile FACTORY warranty????

Ford has done this since '99!! GM wouldn't have even considered offering less in the marketplace when introducing a new powerplant and transmission in their NEW HD trucks. Look, I don't know for a fact if 100,000 mile warranties were always offered for GM... But I do know for a fact I have yet to meet a DMAX Ally owner without a 100k warranty. The point is:rant: :rant: :rant: that this is not the ISSUE of the thread.

OIL SMELL and METAL CHUNKS and SHAVINGS Censored ARE!!!!

Look, your a good guy with some great equipment, and we all like you.
I was simply trying to limit the :offtopic: conversation as it was detracting from the gentleman's problem.

You need to chill out and cut the yelling out first.:rolleyes: All Duramax 2500hd and 3500hd came with 3 year 36K warranty unless you had an extended warranty. As far as the metal on the magnet; they always have metal on the magnet. I questioned the metal in the fluid because it is rare and I do not trust many transmission men. You should let the mods do their work and stay out of it.

blkgmcHD
07-30-2006, 12:36 PM
[quote=blkgmcHD;1205627]no no no the motor and the drive trane the trany is under warranty for 100,000 miles and just found out the injectors for 200,000 miles :blahblah:
NOT! Hello?

ya the injectors are under for 200,000 miles just call your dealer or bosh. I know cause my brothe has his 01 dully in the dealer for injector problems the extended it not to long ago

blkgmcHD
07-30-2006, 12:39 PM
just let you dealer look at it. Its under warranty. next time get a sample of the smelly metal filled fluid. and keep the filter so the dealer has some thing to look at when come to them with the problem.

knighte
07-30-2006, 03:25 PM
You need to chill out and cut the yelling out first.:rolleyes: All Duramax 2500hd and 3500hd came with 3 year 36K warranty unless you had an extended warranty. As far as the metal on the magnet; they always have metal on the magnet. I questioned the metal in the fluid because it is rare and I do not trust many transmission men. You should let the mods do their work and stay out of it.

As for the warranty 3 / 36k on ALL - absolute crap.

You are right, metal on the magnet is normal.



I call a Cease Fire!!:)

tad83k
07-30-2006, 07:36 PM
I cant believe you guys buy these trucks without knowing every little detail on warrenty!! 3 year/36k bumper to bumper, 7 year/100k powertrain. Fact not fiction my boys, go look it up if you so desire!

Mike L.
07-30-2006, 08:22 PM
I cant believe you guys buy these trucks without knowing every little detail on warrenty!! 3 year/36k bumper to bumper, 7 year/100k powertrain. Fact not fiction my boys, go look it up if you so desire!

Prove it.

dmaxalliTech
07-30-2006, 08:48 PM
Here is what is covered by the emmisions warranty on the trans. This info is straight from GM. Not hearsay.

Transmission Controls and Torque Management

Manual Transmission Clutch Switch

Park/Neutral Switch

Torque Converter Clutch Solenoids

Torque Converter Clutch Switch

Transmission Control Module **

Transmission Fluid Temperature Sensor

Transmission Gear Selection Switch (Diesel)

Transmission Internal Mode Switch

Transmission Pressure Switches

Transmission Shift Solenoids A & B

Transmission Speed Sensors

There is nothing in GM documents that indicate the Allison transmission is covered beyond the 3/36 warranty just like any other GM Hydramatic transmission. Give me the VIN of the vehicle in question and I'll prove it yet again.

With Mike L.'s comments, I double dog dare ya....

I have not eaten tonite, so I will eat my words if need be, I'm going to fire the grill up since I dont see it happening.

knighte
07-30-2006, 09:22 PM
Still researching here it is... YOU are HALF right in the case of Medium Duty:

On Allison Transmission

3 Years

UNLIMITED MILES

No Charge Parts
No Charge Labor
All Components Covered Under Limited Warranty

Just an appetizer so far I'm afraid.

dmaxalliTech
07-30-2006, 09:29 PM
Since the basis of this thread is on the 2500 series truck, which is a light duty truck, my focus is on a light duty truck. I am not concerned with medium duty's at this point.

Hotwater
07-30-2006, 09:43 PM
Here is what is covered by the emmisions warranty on the trans. This info is straight from GM. Not hearsay.

Transmission Controls and Torque Management

Manual Transmission Clutch Switch

Park/Neutral Switch

Torque Converter Clutch Solenoids

Torque Converter Clutch Switch

Transmission Control Module **

Transmission Fluid Temperature Sensor

Transmission Gear Selection Switch (Diesel)

Transmission Internal Mode Switch

Transmission Pressure Switches

Transmission Shift Solenoids A & B

Transmission Speed Sensors

There is nothing in GM documents that indicate the Allison transmission is covered beyond the 3/36 warranty just like any other GM Hydramatic transmission. Give me the VIN of the vehicle in question and I'll prove it yet again.

With Mike L.'s comments, I double dog dare ya....

I have not eaten tonite, so I will eat my words if need be, I'm going to fire the grill up since I dont see it happening.


No one can back down from a double dog dare!
Sorry. I watched Christmas story too many times

Wolford
07-30-2006, 09:44 PM
Alli is covered for 36000 miles, all you guys that think otherwise are just having wet dreams, sorry.

knighte
07-30-2006, 09:45 PM
OKAY... WE'LL all have to settle with appetizer only.

The warranty on all Allison 1000 series transmissions regardless of use or vehicle installed in (includes 2500,3500,4500,5500) are cover by a 36 month Unlimited Mile warranty. The 36 months begins the day the vehicle changes title from GM Authorized Dealer to that of a purchaser. ALL COMPONENTS ARE COVERED. The GM Hydromatic Transmission in only covered for 36 months or 36,000 miles.

This information is available under the Medium Duty Warranty Line-item and not under the standard vehicle portion of the website. The warranty applies to all Allison transimissions as the warranty is offered by Allison and not GM. The 1000 Series Allison is available in all DMAX 6600 powerplant trucks as an option.

The 36,000 mile limitation is a big deal as I have 18 months warranty remaining on my 2004.5 trucks 3 year warranty, by I already have 70,000 miles on the truck!!

NOW THAT WE'VE ALL HAD A BLOW UP!!! Can we :Handshake and move on.

Wolford
07-30-2006, 09:46 PM
[quote=Clyde in Colorado;1207924]

ya the injectors are under for 200,000 miles just call your dealer or bosh. I know cause my brothe has his 01 dully in the dealer for injector problems the extended it not to long ago

This is only for the 01 and 02 trucks.

knighte
07-30-2006, 09:53 PM
OKAY... WE'LL all have to settle with appetizer only.

The warranty on all Allison 1000 series transmissions regardless of use or vehicle installed in (includes 2500,3500,4500,5500) are cover by a 36 month Unlimited Mile warranty. The 36 months begins the day the vehicle changes title from GM Authorized Dealer to that of a purchaser. ALL COMPONENTS ARE COVERED. The GM Hydromatic Transmission in only covered for 36 months or 36,000 miles.

This information is available under the Medium Duty Warranty Line-item and not under the standard vehicle portion of the website. The warranty applies to all Allison transimissions as the warranty is offered by Allison and not GM. The 1000 Series Allison is available in all DMAX 6600 powerplant trucks as an option.

The 36,000 mile limitation is a big deal as I have 18 months warranty remaining on my 2004.5 trucks 3 year warranty, by I already have 70,000 miles on the truck!!

NOW THAT WE'VE ALL HAD A BLOW UP!!! Can we :Handshake and move on.

JUST IN CASE someone is getting ready to argue, check out allisontransmission.com and go to warranty and check my literacy. GM doesn't build, and they do not warranty it... ALL warranties are the responsibility of ALLISON.

dmaxalliTech
07-30-2006, 09:56 PM
FWIW, GM warranties the Allison trans when GM puts it in a GM truck. Go to any Allison Shop and ask them to warranty your trans in your light truck.. You will not get it. GM decides the warranty. Just like GM decided not to use the Allison NSBU switch cause it was to expensive, and how GM decided to put Dex III in it instead of Transynd which Allison specs, and how GM decided to use the short pan on it instead of the standard "deep" pan Allison used.

If its in a GM light truck, GM warranties it, and only for 3/36

Now, lets go have a cold one.

knighte
07-30-2006, 10:05 PM
FWIW, GM warranties the Allison trans when GM puts it in a GM truck. Go to any Allison Shop and ask them to warranty your trans in your light truck.. You will not get it. GM decides the warranty. Just like GM decided not to use the Allison NSBU switch cause it was to expensive, and how GM decided to put Dex III in it instead of Transynd which Allison specs, and how GM decided to use the short pan on it instead of the standard "deep" pan Allison used.

If its in a GM light truck, GM warranties it, and only for 3/36

Now, lets go have a cold one.

OHHH!!!!!! I HAVE GONE DIRECTLY TO ALLISON AND THEY DID WARRANTY MY TRANSMISSION!!!!!

It may look like GM is warrantying work, however every GM dealer will tell you that if a transmission rebuild is required your truck and your transmission are going to ALLISON!! For the other things dealers can do in-house.... ALLISON gets a bill!!!

Done it. Know it. Experience always wins over speculation!!

I'm tired of this ..... CAN WE BE DONE????!!!

Mike L.
07-30-2006, 10:05 PM
Don't ya just love it when Eric gets like this?:ro) :cool: You don't want to cross him after the BBQ and beer. :eek: ):h :D

knighte
07-30-2006, 10:07 PM
Don't ya just love it when Eric gets like this?:ro) :cool: You don't want to cross him after the BBQ and beer. :eek: ):h :D

Yeah... I'm figuring it all out. You guys are GREAT!! I'm having a good time here. Are You?

Wolford
07-30-2006, 10:15 PM
I dont think I would argue with guys that do allison work day in and day out.

dmaxalliTech
07-30-2006, 10:19 PM
OHHH!!!!!! I HAVE GONE DIRECTLY TO ALLISON AND THEY DID WARRANTY MY TRANSMISSION!!!!!

It may look like GM is warrantying work, however every GM dealer will tell you that if a transmission rebuild is required your truck and your transmission are going to ALLISON!! For the other things dealers can do in-house.... ALLISON gets a bill!!!

Done it. Know it. Experience always wins over speculation!!

I'm tired of this ..... CAN WE BE DONE????!!!:beerchug:

I'm done.


Your right, my 11 years in the dealership dealing with this everyday did nothing, my Allison training dont help, my extensive dealings with Allison transmissions means nothing, my direct ties with the three largest Allison dealers in Michigan means nothing either. In fact, the fact that I performed many warranty repairs AT THE DEALER and got paid BY THE DEALER mean nothing.

The fact that your dealer could not fix yours means your dealer cant fix it. I would be willing to bet it was just a sublet repair, guess who paid the Allison dealer? your dealer, who paid them? GM.:deal:

Again, :beerchug:

catmenace
07-30-2006, 10:33 PM
If Eric is anything like Mike, don't cross him!!

Mike L.
07-30-2006, 10:40 PM
If Eric is anything like Mike, don't cross him!!

When Eric and I get into it it usually costs me a lot of sheep. ):h

dmaxalliTech
07-30-2006, 10:40 PM
I've found that Mike and I are alot alike, I just dont know what he looks like, he talks funny though. I feel like I have a q-tip in my ear after talking to him...

catmenace
07-30-2006, 10:42 PM
Mike's bark isn't as big as his bite.

Mike L.
07-30-2006, 10:51 PM
I've found that Mike and I are alot alike, I just dont know what he looks like, he talks funny though. I feel like I have a q-tip in my ear after talking to him...

That's cause you always burp in my ear when we're talking on the phone. This could get ugly. ):h

dmaxalliTech
07-30-2006, 10:53 PM
Um, those are not burps, I was blowing you a kiss

knighte
07-30-2006, 11:27 PM
Lost a tranny GM sent me to Allison due to repairs needed. Allison fixed it and honored the warranty directly.

You know the in's and out's better perhaps... I'm done Cheers!!!!):h

Firefighter
07-31-2006, 11:23 AM
I wish there was a little smiley that was sitting back eating popcorn! ):h :muahaha:

tad83k
07-31-2006, 04:53 PM
Mike...
http://www.chevrolet.com/warranty/
Look at the Duramax Warrenty....5/yrs 100k...so I was wrong bout the 7 years. And notice how I said "Powertrain"...never said Transmission!

dmaxalliTech
07-31-2006, 06:51 PM
It also says "CHEVY AVEO AND COBALT"

tad83k
07-31-2006, 08:49 PM
DMax...click the tab that says "Duramax Engine"...your killing me! :banghead:

Mike L.
07-31-2006, 10:19 PM
DMax...click the tab that says "Duramax Engine"...your killing me! :banghead:

Engine is not a powertrain. :nutkick:

towin43
08-01-2006, 03:38 PM
In defense of some of those who didn't read the fine print, many dealers tell prospective DMax customers that the powertrain is warrantied for 5y/100K and they (dealers) define powertrain as everything from the engine to the rear end. I've won many a 6-pack from my DMax buddies who fell for this line of BS and never bothered to read their manuals.

tad83k
08-01-2006, 03:38 PM
Engine is not a powertrain. :nutkick:


Since when?!? :smashfrea Go up to anybody and ask what powertrain they have in their truck... "Its the 6.6l Turbo Diesel". Go read Motortrend..."...the new 3.0 powertrain adds 20 extra horse". Powertrain includes the engine

tad83k
08-01-2006, 03:43 PM
It makes sense, the powertrain powers the vehicle while the drivetrain transfers power...idk what you thinking of!

dmaxalliTech
08-01-2006, 05:36 PM
I thought we were talking about transmission warranty, now we are arguing what a powertrain is?

I'm out.

Mike L.
08-01-2006, 06:20 PM
Since when?!? :smashfrea Go up to anybody and ask what powertrain they have in their truck... "Its the 6.6l Turbo Diesel". Go read Motortrend..."...the new 3.0 powertrain adds 20 extra horse". Powertrain includes the engine

Powertrain consists of engine and everything behind it. So, the engine is warranteed for 100K not the poertrain.

WilliamBos
08-01-2006, 08:51 PM
I wish there was a little smiley that was sitting back eating popcorn! ):h :muahaha:

:exactly: X2!!

tad83k
08-01-2006, 09:29 PM
See in my book the transmission would be considered part of the drivetrain since it controls power flow to the wheels, and thats hat I was tough in automotive school.Guess its just a mute point to be trying to make... O well guess it doesn't matter...back to the topic!!!

WilliamBos
08-01-2006, 11:15 PM
See in my book the transmission would be considered part of the drivetrain since it controls power flow to the wheels, and thats hat I was tough in automotive school.Guess its just a mute point to be trying to make... O well guess it doesn't matter...back to the topic!!!

Hey,

I wonder if the MODS have the POPCORN ready yet? :ro)

SS396
08-02-2006, 01:26 AM
So, whatever happened with the tranny and the metal pieces?

Tutts
08-02-2006, 08:42 PM
And I get upset when my 5 yr old and 9 yr old "discuss" issues...

RVER
08-04-2006, 08:09 PM
Hi guys,
I talked to the dealer, Alison is warrantied for 100,000 and I do not have exteneded warranty.
I did call the Allison Tranny people mentioned here, I had found them from yellow pages but are the same people someone mentioned. They said to drive for another 25,000 miles and have them do the tranny service with fluid and filter change and see what they see. They said if it is not slipping, or clunking etc then probably fine.

MNChevy
08-04-2006, 11:17 PM
ive always been under the impression that all of the Big 3 diesel trucks are warrantied for 5-6 years/100k mile's.


but im not stating fact...just that its always been my impression, id hate to find out it doesnt hold true for GM

dmaxalliTech
08-05-2006, 01:26 AM
Hi guys,
I talked to the dealer, Alison is warrantied for 100,000 and I do not have exteneded warranty.
I did call the Allison Tranny people mentioned here, I had found them from yellow pages but are the same people someone mentioned. They said to drive for another 25,000 miles and have them do the tranny service with fluid and filter change and see what they see. They said if it is not slipping, or clunking etc then probably fine.Without getting into another pissing match, call your dealer back and have them put it in writing.

They can look in there policy and procedures manual for the answer.

swangin68
08-05-2006, 02:55 PM
my brother in law is a deisel and allison mechanic. and he replaces allsions and repairs duramaxs all day long at the local chevy dealer. engine and allison covered for 100,000 thats factory, injectors 200,000. and they honor all of it. hes always r&r on the allisons doing injectors, injector pumps, etc.....as a matter of fact they just did a duramax with 97,000 and got a new trans, with no extended warranty. maybe its just cali dealers. i dont know the whole deal, but someone is misled....U R Censored EN WRONG. whatever u guys say, but im covered...lol...

dmaxalliTech
08-05-2006, 10:05 PM
swangin, congrats, you are covered.

dmaxalliTech
08-05-2006, 10:08 PM
Below is the warranty coverage from GM VIS on an 03 in my shop. I dont see transmission listed as 100k

--------------------------------------------
APPLICABLE WARRANTIES
Description Effective Date Effective Odometer End Date End Odometer
36/36000 BUMPER TO BUMPER 05/23/2003 399 miles 05/23/2006 36399 miles
72/100000 SHEET METAL COVERAGE RUST THROUGH 05/23/2003 399 miles 05/23/2009 100399 miles
96/80000 FEDERAL EMISSION CATALYTIC CONV. AND PCM 05/23/2003 399 miles 05/23/2011 80399 miles
60/100000 FEDERAL EMISSION 05/23/2003 399 miles 05/23/2008 100399 miles
60/100000 GM DIESEL ENGINE IN LIGHT DUTY VEHICLE WITH $100 DEDUCT AFTER BUMPER TO BUMPER 05/23/2003 399 miles 05/23/2008 100399 miles

RayMich
08-06-2006, 04:53 AM
Hopefully this will help clarify the Allison transmission warranty on Light Duty Trucks (2500HD and 3500).

Go to this web page in the Allison website:
About GM Pickups with Allison Transmissions (http://www.allisontransmission.com/service/faq/index.jsp?CategoryID=11#106)

1. Scroll approximately half way down the page and you will see this (several times):

Warranty on the Allison 1000 Series™ in GM pickups is administered by the Chevrolet or GMC divisions of GM, not directly by the Allison division of GM. Please consult your GM dealer regarding questions about warranty coverage.
2. Scroll all the way to the bottom of the page and you will see this:

Q. Warranty - What is the warranty on my transmission?
A. GM's standard warranty on the Allison transmission is 3 years / 36,000 miles. Please consult your GM dealer regarding extended warranty packages that may be available under the GM Protection Plan.

Again, this is the standard warranty on the Light Duty Trucks (2500HD and 3500). The Medium Duty 4500 and 5500 are a totally different deal all together.

I would ask anyone who is convinced that the Allison warranty on the 2500HD & 3500 pickups is 5yr/100,000 miles to please post the exact wording and the source, 'cause a a lot of us here will be very happy to see that in writing from GM.

dmaxalliTech
08-06-2006, 11:03 AM
RayMich,

Thanks

RayMich
08-06-2006, 11:56 AM
RayMich,

ThanksYeah, there seems to be a lot of confusion out there with the general public about the GM warranty on the Alli trans and GM is not helping matters any.

I've already researched this quite a bit and have been 'round and around with GMC and STILL can't get them to tell me if my transmission warranty is still good if I were to use the Allison recommended TranSynd. They keep avoiding a direct answer. All they keep telling me is, "Dexron-VI is the approved fluid for your 2006 Allison transmission."

So far my Allison is shifting fine and the fluid still looks and smells like new so I'm going to run it another 10K and plan to replace it then with TranSynd and add the TransGo kit while I'm at it.

I still haven't had a chance to stop by your place. I was in Holland over the 4th of July weekend but I didn't have your address with me and the wife wanted to do the sightseeing stuff, so I'll have to make time later.

Catch ya later.
- Ray

swangin68
08-06-2006, 04:16 PM
ive been told bulletins come out at the dealers that are updated whenever they feel to. might not be on a website, but cant speak for other dealers or people. but thats what ive heard

dmaxalliTech
08-06-2006, 05:02 PM
You are correct swangin, but GM VIS is updated nearly every day, and thats the very website that those TSB's come out on. (www. gmdealerworld.com)

knighte
08-08-2006, 09:24 AM
Hi guys,
I talked to the dealer, Alison is warrantied for 100,000 and I do not have exteneded warranty.
I did call the Allison Tranny people mentioned here, I had found them from yellow pages but are the same people someone mentioned. They said to drive for another 25,000 miles and have them do the tranny service with fluid and filter change and see what they see. They said if it is not slipping, or clunking etc then probably fine.

I BELIEVE if you check this was my recommendation... NOT because I'm smart.... BUT because I've been there done that!!!