OK.... why did I buy a Dodge?

I've only had it for a month and a half and 3000 miles.
At this point I do not feel I made a mistake but it's still a little premature. I say this because as with all vehicles, you don't know what you got until you have owned it for quite some time.

I desperately wanted to get rid of my GMC Dmax for fear of out-of-warranty repair expenses. I new I would not be keeping it for another 100,000 miles and at 72,000 miles and it looking preemo, I decided to investigate trade in value. I usually sell outright but between the tree crush, head gasket and knock I was starting to hear, I did not want to sell private. I can't warranty the truck and I would feel like I would be ripping somebody off if I didn't tell all. Then I doubt if they would buy it anyway. The dealer test drove it and asked no questions except... how much are you expecting to get for it.

I've had a desire to own a straight axle 4x4 diesel for a long time. GM's IFS, although well designed and very durable, never turned on my "pride" button. In other words.... I was tired of arguing that its as good or better than StraightFrontAxle (SFA).

Don't get me wrong... it really makes no big difference to me in the way I use my trucks cause I don't really work them enough for this stuff to be a concern. I'm just an enthusiast and you know how wierd and wacky we can be.


I was yearning for a regular truck... not GM's idea of one but Ford or Dodges idea of what a truck should be. I hate GM's frame. How it is the lowest point on the truck. I cringe everytime I look at it. What were they thinking? They had the big chance in 2001 when they came out with the HD trucks to make a real contender to Ford and Dodge. I was really disappointed but the Dmax/Allison hype won me over. I feel they (GM) did build a good over the road contender but failed miserably against the SuperDuty and the Dodge with respect to commercial/offroad appeal. Superduties are still killing the Duramax in sales even with the unreliable 6.0 PSD. That's because they build a truck that can do the work without the embarrassing low frame and low stance. The SuperDuties have bigger cabs and the frames are tucked up inside way up high.

Dodge is strange. I think they blew it too by not competing head on with Ford. Forget GM. They shouldn't worry about GM. GM is going the wrong direction. But Dodge needs the larger rear crew cab seating. That is a huge mistake. Crew cab sales are through the roof and the big back seat sells the GMs and Fords in many cases. Ford has no problem selling their trucks to old guys with trailers. GM's easy to climb in philosophy is good but doesn't justify it's concept in the entire model lineup.

I have a long history of taking interest in the Cummins engine. The second generation Dodges looked real nice but the tranny issues and front end/steering issues always steered me away. I test drove a new one in 1997. Lack of power turned me off completely. They also had NO crew cab at all.

Now the third generation comes out. It got better looking to me the more I saw it. Still had "cheap" stuck in my brain though, and the "What would people think?" syndrome. I read they beefed up the trans to 48RE configuration. I hear they can be built up if needed for a bunch less than an Allison. Find out they are using AAM axles. Not sure if that's a good thing but the GMs didn't have major problems with them.

All of a sudden one day I said, that's it. I'm doing it. Did the research, hit a few dealerships, got a good trade in price and did the deal.

I can tell you this.... I have been all over this new Dodge... put the big exhaust on, played with the airbox, turbo resonator and removed the turbo silencer ring. Everything is so much easier to access, see and work on. This Dodge is better designed and has superior fit and finish from a frame and body point of view. The Dodge has real door hinge detent mechanisms instead of those hoky things GM uses that make that awful scraping noise. The tailgate o

Bored ???


You could have bought a Hemi and saved alot of money too ....


Check back at 70K and three years we'll be waiting to see if fit and finish, tires and steering hold up ...





I'm bookmarking this one ....





Mac http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Evil Smile.gifEdited by: Mackin

hehe...

MAC.... you must have been reading this while I was typing it. Hate to break it to you but I don't think it'll be any worse for wear that the GMC was after a few years.
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Hoot,

Unfortunately, I agree with your feelings on the Radio and HVAC.

I have the MANUAL Dual Zone HVAC (mandatory with Snowplow prep) and while it's decent, the mix (bilevel) settings are horrible.

Very good, honest writeup you just posted.

Stay away from those trees!

Cause you were out of your right mind? http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif


If you wanted to get away from GM and find out what a real truck (as you say) was like then why did you put GM Hummer wheels on your truck? http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif That makes no sense at all. Guess I will never understand a guy who trades in his GM truck for a d**ge. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Dead.gif





Just picking, I guesshttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gif I am happy you like it, just sorry you went to the dark side. Maybe you will see the force and come back.


HOOT, GM is your father.....http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gifEdited by: GMC2500HD

I took the "Made in Poland" PYO wheels off the GMC and put GM H2 wheels on it too. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

You are all welcome to tear into me for this post. Let it rip. I like a good healthy controversy.

My DODGE has AAM axles, New Venture transfer case, and a Bosch high pressure common rail injection system. Does GM make those? All of the above also come in a GM truck. Does GM make the Hummer wheels? GM doesn't make much anymore... as with all the manufacturers.

My first car was a 1966 Ford Fairlane GT Convertible. Back then I was Ford BLUE all the way and hated Chevies. By the time I was 30 I flipped 180 to Chevy.

But I always remembered how indestructable some of the old Dodges were that I owned. Junky but you could beat the drivetrain to death.

Dodge has made some great advances recently and is continuing to come up with some interesting things. It cracks me up with GM bragging about having DOD (displacement on demand) comming out for the last few years..... and Chrysler just beat them to the punch. Dodge needs to get it's fuel consumption down overall. The Hemi now comes with it.Edited by: hoot

Good post Hoot.


I never thought I would ever buy a Dodge after being in a Ford all my adult life,I would never own a GM truck,I live in Flint and all I see is GM stuff,so I have always been on the other side of the coin.


I had a 99 Superduty PSD and I loved it,all stock and never did let me down,but after 120000 miles I had an itch for a new PSD and Ford wanted $6000 more for the same truck as what I had before,so I looked at Dodge and ended up getting a 4X4 3500 Quadcab,I hated it for the first 48000 miles which I had on it in 6 months,I went for the DTT Torque convertor and valve body and bigger injectors and a Van Aakens box,then the truck was awsome,and after 106000 I wanted a new truck,found a 305/555 and jumped on it,and am very happy with the results so far,I have not added anything yet it is all stock..Edited by: DGFoster

Nice write up, Mike.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif





I'd do something like that, but I'm too lazy. I'm came BACK to Dodge, after a less than stellar experience with my Ford. So far, so good.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif

Now I heard it all.................http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif


Hoot,


We are putting that Dodge on the rollers here...........ON ME.......http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif


Wanna see what she's got............http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clown.gif


Thttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gifNY

I would love to see that,especially when the chivy guys mouth drops to the floorhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

If only someone would match a cummins with an allison. I like both trucks a lot and it took me a while to decide between the two. Both have their ups and downs so I guess it was more brand loayalty for me than anything.

I would love to see that,especially when the chivy guys mouth drops to the floorhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif


I don't know about that........it would take a Nickle and a Dime to make my mouth hang open.........http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif


Don't think I'll see that number except from a chivy.........http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gif


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Please Note....a NICKLE is 500 RWHP and a Dime would be 1000 RWTQ.


In case anyone was wondering.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Geek.gif

I would love to see that,especially when the chivy guys mouth drops to the floorhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif


I don't know about that........it would take a Nickle and a Dime to make my mouth hang open.........http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif


Don't think I'll see that number except from a chivy.........http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gif


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Please Note....a NICKLE is 500 RWHP and a Dime would be 1000 RWTQ.


In case anyone was wondering.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Geek.gif





http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gifI think 500 and 1000 is about right for a very mildly bombed Cumminshttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

I have seen some Cummins Dyno numbers............what does it take to make those numbers ????????


Can ya just slap a program in the ECM or stack a combo and get there ??????


Or are we talking a Turbo..........Injectors..........and a new program ???


Just asking 'cause I don't know nuttin 'bout dem Dodges......http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gif

Most of the big guns out there have injectors,fueling box and a different turbo,I dont know if they are stacking the boxes though,and I thing some are changing the timing also.

I'm not into roller wars. Never was. None of my trucks has ever been on one and I have never bragged about having one to beat. But I love the getogethers.

I'm not into roller wars. Never was. None of my trucks has ever been on one and I have never bragged about having one to beat. But I love the getogethers.


http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

Hoot, I am proud of you for giving an accurate and unbiased comparison, but I still can't help but laugh when I think about all the trouble you used to give me for being a potatoe chip truck driverhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

I still can't help but laugh when I think about all the trouble you used to give me for being a potatoe chip truck driverhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

And now I are one

Hoot,


Don't let the guy with the comment about 70,000 miles bother you. I don't know about 3 yrs., my 03 is 15 months old and has almost 126,000 miles on it and it is still as tight and rattle free as it was when it was new, and I'm sure the roads I travel are a lot worse than 99% of the people on this board drive on.

Hoot,


Don't let the guy with the comment about 70,000 miles bother you. I don't know about 3 yrs., my 03 is 15 months old and has almost 126,000 miles on it and it is still as tight and rattle free as it was when it was new, and I'm sure the roads I travel are a lot worse than 99% of the people on this board drive on.

That guy will be driving a Cummins.... mark my words.

.

Hoot, you sure seem to change your opinion of things a lot, depending on what you are driving! I have driven an 03 Dodge and I am less than impressed with the truck all together. Cummins is a good motor, but Dodge still has a long ways to catch up with GM with the rest of the truck IMO.

Hoot, very well written, and you were honest. I drove GM most of my life, drove a Dodge Cummins for 5 years. I really can't say any bad words about the Dodge. I still miss some things about the Dodge. Maybe someday someone will build the perfect truck!!!Edited by: BIGMoe

Hoot


Air Intake Box Cut out?


Purpose, Changes, Improvements?


Need INPUT!

i took my air box off and put a cone k&n on it, works for me

Hoot, you sure seem to change your opinion of things a lot, depending on what you are driving! I have driven an 03 Dodge and I am less than impressed with the truck all together. Cummins is a good motor, but Dodge still has a long ways to catch up with GM with the rest of the truck IMO.

No kidding... ("you sure seem to change your opinion of things a lot, depending on what you are driving!") It's easy to judge a vehicle... I've learned.. by what the mainstream says.

But owning.... not just driving one for a day or 15 minutes doesn't do them justice. I'm trying to be objective.

You are dead wrong about Dodge though. They have more than caught up. I find myself less concerned and more at ease with this truck than I ever was with the Dmax. Remember who was playing catchup with diesels for the longest time (GM). Dodge being the underdog is showing GM and Ford that they have what it takes to build a truck. GM hasen't quite figured out what a HD pickup is supposed to be. It's a miriad of HD and LD parts with a racecar diesel http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ouch.gif Edited by: hoot

Hoot


Air Intake Box Cut out?


Purpose, Changes, Improvements?


Need INPUT!

See the pictures in my sig. The big hole just removes air restriction. All the airbox does is holds the airfilter and protects the intake from water. I looked under there and didn't see how water could go up inside the hole in such volume as to jump up and get through the air cleaner to create any problems. Too much protection from body parts around there. I think the stock side fender hole is a little restrictive in itself. Some have complained that their filter minder got sucked in with clean air filters.

Between my big exhaust, unrestricted turbo inlet tube and the hole in the airbox, she should be breathing easier.

Ask the guys who WORK their trucks. Not the guys that use em to commute to work, or that play with them on the way to work.


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Ask the guys who WORK their trucks. Not the guys that use em to commute to work, or that play with them on the way to work.


http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif

You would know pizzaman http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Wink.gif

Your injectors took a dump too Mike.

I think we should all put our miles and injector status in our signatures. Wonder how many have not revealed their problems or have simply disappeared. Edited by: hoot

To Gradyghost;


"Ask the guys who WORK their trucks."


I believe I qualify there, I put it in my profile, didn't see it in yours. Don't really believe boating, fishing, and 4 wheeling qualify as work.

Hoot


Thanks. Always like and value your input.





eb290


One who puts miles on like you have also deserves to be heard. Good going.Edited by: Canadian_Frank

Hoot, you sure seem to change your opinion of things a lot, depending on what you are driving! I have driven an 03 Dodge and I am less than impressed with the truck all together. Cummins is a good motor, but Dodge still has a long ways to catch up with GM with the rest of the truck IMO.

No kidding... ("you sure seem to change your opinion of things a lot, depending on what you are driving!") It's easy to judge a vehicle... I've learned.. by what the mainstream says.

But owning.... not just driving one for a day or 15 minutes doesn't do them justice. I'm trying to be objective.

You are dead wrong about Dodge though. They have more than caught up. I find myself less concerned and more at ease with this truck than I ever was with the Dmax. Remember who was playing catchup with diesels for the longest time (GM). Dodge being the underdog is showing GM and Ford that they have what it takes to build a truck. GM hasen't quite figured out what a HD pickup is supposed to be. It's a miriad of HD and LD parts with a racecar diesel http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ouch.gif


I think GM and Ford are doing the catching up,Ford had good footing I believe but lost it somewere along the line.

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I think we should all put our miles and injector status in our signatures. Wonder how many have not revealed their problems or have simply disappeared. [/QUOTE]


Maybe we should also include our transmission status toohttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Evil Smile.gif

"Don't really believe boating, fishing, and 4 wheeling qualify as work."





Amen to that brother!!! This right here is real work........................http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/CD6_04-3500-2.JPG

Oh by the way Hacksaw, transmission status: Intact and working perfectly.

Glad to hear that, how many miles?

Hey Hack


Ask them about all the other problems, Interior,rattles, diff's, tranny's, Like it has been proven, Only good thing about a goat is there engine whitch not really there's. Yes Isuzu desighned the max but it is mfg in U.S. in a U.S. owned by GM.


Uni Cop


Hack when we gonna get into photography like the funny guy in Calif.

It is good to see alot more guys who WORK their trucks posting here...Edited by: Gradyghost

Hey, I'm happy you got what you want . . . your the one paying for it!

Hey Hack


Ask them about all the other problems, Interior,rattles, diff's, tranny's, Like it has been proven, Only good thing about a goat is there engine whitch not really there's. Yes Isuzu desighned the max but it is mfg in U.S. in a U.S. owned by GM.


Uni Cop


Hack when we gonna get into photography like the funny guy in Calif.





Hey Geno, I like your new sig. As far as the Dodge boys go, I'm sure they know about their auto transmission, if not, they soon will, if they work them hard at all.


As far as the photography, I was kind of waiting to see him post the pictures of Nam and the Hanoi Hilton.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gifEdited by: Hacksaw

My forum suggestion of years past was a place for guys who WORK their trucks specifically to post questions about accesories, winches, hitches, trailers, welders, etc... It seems that the accesories forum here gets bogged down with posts about computer chips, rims that look good, etc...


I am glad there is a Trailering forum here.





Amen to that!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif

Grady...

I totally understand. And yes people should be careful to follow too much of what I say as I don't really work my trucks hard. I run them good enough to blow headgaskets though and what else might have occurred if I did work it like you guys? http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Wink.gif

Mike... I do respect your input and questions.
I did keep the plow and plan on installing it. The GMC did a great job handling it. I'm curious how this one does. Last Dodge I drove with a plow (97) was a little bouncy with the coil springs.

Hackjaw.... My tranny warranty is better than yours and it's cheaper to fix/build after warranty.

Hackjaw.... My tranny warranty is better than yours and it's cheaper to fix/build after warranty.


http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif Brings back memories of my childhood days.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gifEdited by: Hacksaw

I know I said it that way on purpose.

I know you did.

I have seen some Cummins Dyno numbers............what does it take to make those numbers ????????


Can ya just slap a program in the ECM or stack a combo and get there ??????


Or are we talking a Turbo..........Injectors..........and a new program ???


Just asking 'cause I don't know nuttin 'bout dem Dodges......http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gif





The common rail fuel system is one of the reasons the Duramax has been able to make power with stock injectors and turbo's. This is an awesome fuel system. It will be the same in the Cummins.


Best to date HP with one program on a Duramax on my dyno is 470hp. That was BMDMAX's truck running a Quad 215. Best CR Dodge to date on one program was 454hp on level 7 out of a 9 level box. Brandon's Dmax had exhaust and intake, the Dodge was bone stock.


Pre common rail - electronic 24v - 450 hp can be had with box, injectors, intake and exhaust. Should also run a bigger turbo.


Mechanical 12v - Injectors, intake and exhaust and you should run a larger turbo.


I've seen both 12v & 24v Cummins with stock turbo's just under 450hp but it's hot and dirty.

After about half doxen lines a give up.


Now I can see why so many Cummins and Powerstroke owners hated hoot. He has blinders on. Hoot seams to forget about all the times he talked up the great Duramax, and the truck. Now he writes a book about WHY I BOUGHT MY DODGE


The one point I`ll point out. The frame; The 2500HD in stock form is 2 1/2" lower then the Ford 250 SD 4x4. Now that GM in no longer in his drive. The GM most be near the ground while Ford has their frame tucked up real high.


Put the same size tires, and now it is at or near 2" even. Sense was that such a large amount? (we are talking about the frame.)

I came here to the Dodge Cummins Forum because I was interested to read about the GOAT HEAD, not GM/Chevy.


If it is all the same to all of you who do not share the love of Dodge, post your dislike about Dodge on your GM/Chevy side. I don't visit that side of the form to read and I do not go there to aggravate you about what I think of Chevy/GM.


I would expect the same courtesy.


Now some of you are taking personal shots on some who post here so I decided not to sit idle. What ever you say, I knew what I was doing when I bought a Dodge. Had GM/Chevy's before.


Post something useful or stick to your side of the forum.


The rain of your insults does not reach the umbrella of my indifference.

hdmax,

Give me a break. No matter what any of us say, somebody will get upset about it. Right now it's you.

Excuse me for changing brands and saying I like the change.
Excuse me for opening my mouth many times before about the competition. Competition? Well guess what.... it's a relative term isn't it? I admit being a big mouth brand basher but have you seen a lot of that from me in a long while? I'm trying my darndest to be objective.

I'm not bashing GM but I'm not afraid to smell the coffee and speak. You can preach your sermon until the cows come home... that does not eliminate the rest of the world. Who has blinders? Me or you?

Sometimes I hate the internet but I don't hate people. If in your judgement they hate me for saying things about trucks than that's where they lay..... hating people for what they think about trucks. Very profound.Edited by: hoot

I don't usually get involved in brand battles and I don't plan to now.


Hoot,


Thanks for your honest opinion. You are qualified to compare the GM and Dodge because you have owned them both. Most of us appreciate this information.


Canadian Frank,


You really came out swinging. Don't take what people write so personally. We're talking about diesel trucks here. If you disagree with what is written, just say so. I would hate to see a great site destroyed by the intolerance of a few.

hdmax....

I don't like the big stupid frame on the GM HD dropping down from the front and acting like a couple of skids.

Do you?

But there are things about my Dodge I don't like...

I bought the truck that fit's my desires right now. I can shut up and not bring these things up for fear of offending you... is that what you want?Edited by: hoot

I think it is kind of funny. We are not talking about our mother-in-laws here... or are we. LOL


I have enjoyed the thread so far. It is good to know the good and the bad and good for things to be pointed out that conflict with previous statements, but lets all remain friends.

Toreador,

We are friends. We just speak our minds. Reading typed responses doesn't help us much as far as personalities are concerned.

Ahh, I see

Hoot, that is one helluva long-term commuter vehicle feeback!You remind me of a windsock , you're always pointing to where the winds blowing.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Hug.gif


Hey we all know Cummins has 9 lives,too bad that the Dodge part uses up 8 of them to keep it going.


When will your better half be gettin' new wheels?Cant wait to hear that long-term feedback.Autoweek is hiring by the way.

Hoot, that is one helluva long-term commuter vehicle feeback!You remind me of a windsock , you're always pointing to where the winds blowing.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Hug.gif


Hey we all know Cummins has 9 lives,too bad that the Dodge part uses up 8 of them to keep it going.


When will your better half be gettin' new wheels?Cant wait to hear that long-term feedback.Autoweek is hiring by the way.

Broker...

As usual your comments are nothing but BS. You only seem to post controversy. Nothing technical cause you don't have a clue.

Have another Jack and Coke. I'm glad they changed the date.

Took a decent pic tonight..

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hdmax....

I don't like the big stupid frame on the GM HD dropping down from the front and acting like a couple of skids.

Do you?


If I was doing the design work these trucks would not have the frame sticking down. However, I would much rather scuff the coating off the frame then have body damage from getting in to a rock.

But there are things about my Dodge I don't like...

I bought the truck that fit's my desires right now. I can shut up and not bring these things up for fear of offending you... is that what you want?


No, not at all! I was just bringing up the point about you singing a different song. I am happy for you. I will never rule out haveing a Dodge or Ford someday, Maybe even a Toyota, or Nissanhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif

Mike the funny thing is the big three all handle the frame differently.

GM is way down, Dodge hangs slightly lower than the body and Fords is up under the body. I think GM wanted a lower center of gravity. That's good for towing and handling. Edited by: hoot

I like the frame being low. I'd rather use the frame rails for a skid than the tranny pan or the transfer case. I've bottomed it out before and I'm glad it was there to take the impact rather than part of the drivetrain.


Just my opinion.

Hoot,that truck looks great,did you add the cab lights,clearance lights??


I was thinking of adding them to mine.

Camstyn,

I agree the GM frame has it's advantages the way it's designed and if you look closely at the new Dodge it also is lower than the body but not that low. I get comments all the time since I put the H2 wheels and tires on... "Did this thing come stock this high?" My answer is.. all I did was put tires on it. Ride height doesn't make it a better truck. I like it though.... just personal taste.

DGFoster,

My clearance lights are factory. I think they leak though. When I get around to it I'll remove them and silicone the holes. I had a little water dripping from the center sunvisor mount during a heavy rain.

My GMC clearance lights started leaking after they got replaced from tree damage. Don't let that scare you cause a little clear silicone at the holes does the trick.

I don't know how Dodge does it but of it's like every thing else they sell, it shouls be pretty easy to install. Usually the wiring is there under the headliner. You would have to see if Dodge sells a kit. GM wanted you to buy seperate components and charge you a fortune. I'm sure Dodge does some of that too.Edited by: hoot

We charge $89.00 plus tax for the mopar clearance light kit which contains everything you need to install. We charge 1.5 hours installation which at our store would be $90.00.

Cool,thanks guys.


Hoot,my 2000 had a miner leak also,all I did was tweak the screws a bit tighter,most were pretty loose,but your right a little silicone goes a long way.

Hoot


Nice article. I was born and raised in a "GM only" family. My dad was a GM fanatic. In his eyes, Fords were junk and Dodge was even worse. I have been interested in the Cummins engine since Cummins began to build it back in about '85 for boats. I had hoped GM would hook up with Cummins to put the 6BTA5.9 in Chevy and GMC trucks. Last year I gave up and did the unthinkable! I bought a new 03 Ram 3500 ST w/SB QC SRW 305/555 6sp last year. This is my first ever new truck. It is AWWWWWSOME!!!!! Very well built and, wow, what a paint job!!! I have not had a single problem with this unit after 13 months and 23,000 miles.


Thanks again for the nice article. It is nice to know we're not the only ones who have jumped the fence. (By the way, my dad bought a 2001 Ram 2500 SLT Cummins 24V 2nd Generation w/automatic and loves it! He is one of these guys who likes to hear the noise. He even put a plate on the front bumper bearing the Cummins logo and the words: "Now hear this!!" Never thought I'd see the day when dad would own a Dodge!!!!)