You guys notice this?

2800 miles on the truck and the door is already ripping a hole in it... I put silicone grease on the weatherstrip yesterday and it looks like that will help alot.

This sequence is the door opening and then the last two are closing.

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COULDN'T RESIST ....http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gif





That's why they put a Cummin's in it ,get in drive your not suppose to get in get out repeat repeat ....


At 2800 K you should have opened the door 8 times top .... You prolly did that the first day ...


So your wore it out already ,Dodge ...





Mac http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gifEdited by: Mackin

It is pretty stupid. The fit and finish of this truck is outstanding. Then you run into this. With the grease on there it seems to be fine but I don't like it.

Where the sheet metal is crimped underneath it's a little rough. That's what's abrading the rubber. I may put a dab of epoxy under there to make it smooth.

Not a showstopper. Edited by: hoot

did the truck come with a tube of lube in the glovebox?


sorry i couldn't resisthttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gif

You know... I like you guys regardless http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

Edited by: hoot

I will have to check mine.


By the way Hoot,your right the exhaust @ the turbo isnt 4 inch,something like 3.5,my measuring tape was off that dayhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

Mike, I noticed the other day that my weatherstripping was starting to rub.





Design flaw. Oh well, at least I can use my windshield washer without having to shut my window. On my Ford, it would run right off the a pillar, right into my power window buttons!

Time to get out the patented Dodge Door Adjustment Tool®





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HOOT, a couple of DOGFISH'S and the MP adjusting tool and you won't care about what's rubbing !http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/SLAMMED_IAM.jpg

Mike


Take it back to the dealer. Get a new seal and have them figure the solution. That is what warranty is for.


I will be watching mine. Mine is a few days older and It does not appear to be a problem.... Yet! The doors get a lot of use with the family.

I've only got a little over 2,300 miles on mine. No problem yet..


And the greatest thing of all is that when it rains, water doesn't come into the cab of my 04.5 Cummins like my 2003 GMC Sierra did......

There is a TSB for the problem. Apparently there is a new seal.

TSB-23-008-04

SUBJECT:
Drip Rail Door Seal Torn
OVERVIEW:
This bulletin involves replacing the secondary door seal with an improved seal.
MODELS:
2004 (DR) Ram Truck
SYMPTOM/CONDITION:
The drip rail or secondary door seal may become torn from contact with
the lower “A” pillar of the front door.
DIAGNOSIS:
Inspect the secondary door seal (Fig. 1). If the seal is torn, perform the Repair Procedure.
PARTS REQUIRED:
Qty. Part No. Description
1 55276530AC Secondary Door Seal - Standard Cab
1 55275616AC Secondary Door Seal - Quad Cab
REPAIR PROCEDURE:
1. Remove the secondary seal from the retainer (Fig. 1).
2. Install the new seal using the appropriate seal listed in the Parts Required section above.Edited by: hoot

Hoot, have you had the new seal installed yet? I have noticed this also, but haven't done anything about it. Just wondering if the dealerships would be aware of the problem if I stopped by on the weekend to get it fixed. Harry Half- @$$ reguarding the seal situation. I agree with you 100% about the trucks finish.


One thing that I thought improved the truck's exterior look is that I took off the emblems. It looks "cleaner" to me. But... alot of people ask why not leave them on? I guess if you left them on for a couple of months you might see that you are stuck with them becuase of a paint fade situation.


Tint the front drivers side windows to match the OEM windows and it will be looking even betterhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif

No I haven't gotten he new seals yet. I hate going dealerships. They give me the shakes.

I agree on the tint... also some guys, with the light colored trucks, blacken out the pillar between the doors. makes the whole area look limo black.

Hey,


I'm up to 16,000 miles on mine and don't see any visible wear yet. I'll have to keep an eye on this. I did have a different problem with my door and seal Saturday. I was driving through New Mexico at about 80mph into a strong headwind. The wind was strong enough to make the top of the door flex away from the truck enough that the top unsealed and water (from the rain) was running in the truck, not to mention on my knee.


Has anybody else experienced this? I'm assuming it's just one of those things I'll have to deal with. Nothing looks defective and it only happens when I'm going into a strong headwind that seems to be coming slightly across the windsheld from the passenger side.


I don't remember my 2003 Chevy ever raining on me. But then again the Chevy was in the shop 34 times when I traded it on the Dodge. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

I wonder if what you describe was really happening. I don't think the door is that flexible. Possible the weatherstrip is getting blown off its seat against the sheet metal?

I haven't experienced any leaking except for the cab lights. There was a couple drops of water on my visor mount once after a heavy rain I was driving in.

Since this issue came back up I'll add my experience. Took my truck to a dealer for 'slow fuel gauge'. Chrysler approved it and it was re-flashed. Asked about and got confirmation on the door seal TSB.


Chrysler did NOT approve the new seal for my truck. They said since the truck was over the 36K mileage it was NOT eligible for this under warranty.

capt I think that's cause after 36,000 you drop out of the B to B coverage and fall back to drivetrain coverage.

I have 30,000 miles to go.

Hoot,


No prob with the weather strip but I just noticed this AM a windshield leak. Noted drops at both assist handles and at the rearview. A little disturbing becouse now it makes me wonder... ( I just picked it up a week ago Sat.) The service dept. will not be happy to see me come July 5th AM !


Still lov'en it!


325 / 600 4X4 CTD makes the dif. though. Dont let em get to ya!

Probably just clearance light leak... if you have them.

Hey Hoot,


I was going down the road about 90 today on the way home. Again, there was a slight headwind from the passenger side angle. It wasn't raining, but I heard a strong wind noise from the driver side door like when I was out in NM a couple weeks ago. I looked up and could actually see the top of the door above the window flexing slightly out and could see a little bit of light between the door and the seal every once in a while. I wonder if this is a defect of the door, or just a defect of the crazy driver... http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif

Flexing at 90 wouldn't surprise me. I'm sure all vehicles exhibit some flex but these truck have large doors and sit much higher. I don't like the seal design overall. I don't think they meant for it to perform 100% at 90mph + headwind.

If you keep your eyes on the road you won't see it flex and everybody will survive!

I personally haven't noticed any of what you are seeing.Edited by: hoot

Hoot these guys can tease you all they want, but our under hood insulation will fall apart way before yours doeshttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif

Hoot these guys can tease you all they want, but our under hood insulation will fall apart way before yours doeshttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif


True, from the hood going up and down while in the shop numerous times does seem to affect the insulation.. Good point hd..

[QUOTE=hoot]Flexing at 90 wouldn't surprise me. I'm sure all vehicles exhibit some flex but these truck have large doors and sit much higher. QUOTE]


Are you on drugs? My truck has about 2.5-3" of total lift, and I have 33" tires. My truck sets taller then yours does with 35" tires. The math I know tells me that your truck stock would set 1.5-2" taller then mine stock. And that is the very most difference it would be, it may well be closer to 1". That my friend is not "MUCH HIGHER" as you stated. And I thought I was the one on drugs!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif

Hood insulation.... Shoot I remember removing the plastic cover over my GM 6.5 TD to help keep the engine cool. I don't need no stinkin insulation...

My motor without it is still quieter than yours hdhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

[QUOTE=hoot]Flexing at 90 wouldn't surprise me. I'm sure all vehicles exhibit some flex but these truck have large doors and sit much higher. QUOTE]


Are you on drugs? My truck has about 2.5-3" of total lift, and I have 33" tires. My truck sets taller then yours does with 35" tires. The math I know tells me that your truck stock would set 1.5-2" taller then mine stock. And that is the very most difference it would be, it may well be closer to 1". That my friend is not "MUCH HIGHER" as you stated. And I thought I was the one on drugs!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif








I think the real reason for the door pulling away from the a-pillar is probably due to the massive amount of mountain moving torque the cummins is putting out, twisting our frame similar to a pretzel.. gotta love that low end torque, even if the doors are twisting apart.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gifEdited by: hasselbach

I think the real reason for the door pulling away from the a-pillar is probably due to the massive amount of mountain moving torque the cummins is putting out, twisting our frame similar to a pretzel.. gotta love that low end torque, even if the doors are twisting apart.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

Certainly not something the "other" guys need to worry about. You ain't kidding though... feels like a freight train

I think the real reason for the door pulling away from the a-pillar is probably due to the massive amount of mountain moving torque the cummins is putting out, twisting our frame similar to a pretzel.. gotta love that low end torque, even if the doors are twisting apart.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif Yea that's it! Now wake up, it's time for workhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

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feels like a freight train But it sure isn't built like onehttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif What do you tells guys when they ask how you got the dent in your door?http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gifhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Hug.gif this sure is funhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif


I tell them the usual truth. The dent was caused by a duramax whose doors I blew off, which unfortunately, one careened into my dodge as I was passing them.. Its horrible to have so much power under the hood. Maybe that's why the chevy's heaters don't work so well, its from lack of doors...

hdmax.... OK I'll tell them.

I opened my door and hit hdmax on the head

BTW... I've got stone dings bigger than that little ding. Edited by: hoot

But it sure isn't built like onehttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif What do you tells guys when they ask how you got the dent in your door?http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gifhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Hug.gif this sure is funhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif


Got the dent in the door from "ramming"


Got the dent in the door from "dodging HD's"


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<DIV>Just a quick note for those of you wondering about the door seal fix. Several people have asked what the difference is in the seals, and I've seen several thoughts, but nothing concrete.

I was looking at my new door seals today and the door no longer rubs the seal at the contact point that wore through the original seal. The outer-most part of the seal is lower than the original one and eliminates 90% of the rubbing that caused the problem in the first place. http://www.turbodieselregister.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Can't say that I have noticed the whole door pulling away from the seal at 90, or even 114 mph!!! Which the Cummins will do. Chevy only knows 97/98 mph...I know.... I had one. None the less, my seals tore on my 03 Quad Cab, and on my 04 Quad Cab. But I have not noticed any extreme amount of noise at any speed; at least nothing like my Ford!!!