I am looking into gettting a 200 hp+ power upgrade.I had a guy let me use his quad 235, and I liked it. I was wondering if anyone has any experience with the Van Aaken versus this programmer. Which do you like best, and does the Van Aaken put out as much smoke as the Quad. And yes before anyone starts in on me, I am getting a tranny upgrade. Thanks guys!

No experience with Quads stuff, but I have read enough bad stuff about his service and games that I would go with Van Aaken... They have a 230 box that does smoke like a train, but it moves......

Well if you are getting your tranny upgraded you should get them both! The two combined are known as one of the most potent stacks available.


You will want the Quad for the extra RPMs and speed limiter removal, along with its ability to adjust for tire size should that be an issue. The Van Aaken has a switch that enables you to switch power levels on the fly(useful for towing and/or winter driving).


The Van Aaken is an outstanding module and stacks very well with the Quad. Craig at http://www.macs-performance.com (http://www.macs-performance.com) has done very well with the two.


Quad's customer service is second to none -- at least that has been my experience. There are several folks around here that have their differences w/ Quad, but don't mistake person differences and politics for substance. I had one of the first 2004's which required some programming changes. Quad made it right on his dime w/ overnight service.

Basically, two totally different units. Suitability will depend on your needs.





I would like to say that regardless of VA ratings, the 200+ unit that was developed on my truck is MUCH stronger than the other VA tunes tested.

I was thinking of stacking the two, but with both of them being a little weak below 2,000 RPM, I'm thinking the HJ/AT might stack better with the Quad than the VA 200+. Looking forward to seeing dyno's of stacks with either the VA or Quad.

Amric,


I have stacked the VA 230 with the Quad 215 on the dyno. It made 500 horsepower but was low on torque. The Quad 215/HJAT 145 makes about 15 more ponies and much better torque.


I will see if I can dig up the sheet with the runs to scan and post.

FYI The VA 230 did 800 lb/ft whereas my 200+ does 900+...

FYI The VA 230 did 800 lb/ft whereas my 200+ does 900+...


How does it do stacked with the Quad?

Like most any stack, overfueled for the amount of air available.





Stacking IMHO (exclusding adding psi) is kind of a hit/miss thing. There is really NO reason whty one pulse program cannot maximize the pulse extension and optimize timing.


One good program for pulse/timing, add some psi, or better yet injectors, and some air and you got it...

"There is really NO reason whty one pulse program cannot maximize the pulse extension and optimize timing."


Very true.


In addition, all programs (that are tuner loaded) could be sold online and downloaded directly to the customer's PC which could then be used to update the PCM. Public key encryption could be used to ensure that each tune is only loaded on a single truck at a time so that vendors and manufacturers are fairly compensated. Certainly would be convenient...

Do a google search on LS1Edit. We need this for the Duramax.

"Do a google search on LS1Edit. We need this for the Duramax."


Yep -- I am familiar with it. That would pretty much be nirvana...


The guys running turbos on gassers have similar software that comes with the custom DFI (PCM/ECM/ECU) units that they run. More than enough rope to hang one's self with, but diesels do seem to be alot easier and safer to calibrate than turbo charged gassers...

FYI The VA 230 did 800 lb/ft whereas my 200+ does 900+...


How does it do stacked with the Quad?





The VA 200+ has plenty of fuel as is. I tried stacking it with the Quad 215 and 135 tunes but the two won't play nice. It's not as violent as a burst but more like it bogs down with too much fuel. Either way, it did not run good.


I could not stack the new Quad 215 (225?) tune with anything either. I threw several versions of Juice and the VA at it but it did not fly.


The old Quad 215 tune seems to stack best with the Juice for sure.

BMDmax, when you say old, which version are refering to????I have the 135 (1.20) and it is "picky" about stacks!! I'd like to try the 215, but need to know which version. Thanks!

BMDmax, when you say old, which version are refering to????I have the 135 (1.20) and it is "picky" about stacks!! I'd like to try the 215, but need to know which version. Thanks!


I run version 1.04 for my old tune. I don't know how many versions there are between the 1.04 and the 1.20, if any.

OK, I have stacked the 215 v1.19 + Attitude level 5 on the dyno and at the track without any trouble. Heck I even added the Duramaxamizer at the track one day for giggles. I did get some bursting on one run with all 3. On another run it didn't burst but I did get a code that basically indicated low fuel delivery/pressure but the truck ran strong through out the run. Traction was severly limited in 2wd that day and that was before my balls got big enough to try the 4wd launch. I have added the FASS since then...maybe it will help with the bursting/codes/power............stay tuned...as soon as work calms down I'll head for the dyno/track and report back. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif

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Ok, I've got a question. I'm new to this diesel performance stuff... but what is "bursting"?

Ok, I've got a question. I'm new to this diesel performance stuff... but what is "bursting"?








Bursting gives the sensation of someone turning the ignition off for a split second while under full power. I have no doubt that this will eventually take it's toll on an engine...

Trippin, that is the info. I was looking for!! Wanna sell your 215???http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gifhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif Do You remember Your E.T.'s with the 215/#5/mizer stack?? I,m stacking 110/H.J.#5/mizer ......no dyno results, but doing O.K. at the 1/8 mi.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif

Trippin, that is the info. I was looking for!! Wanna sell your 215???http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gifhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif Do You remember Your E.T.'s with the 215/#5/mizer stack?? I,m stacking 110/H.J.#5/mizer ......no dyno results, but doing O.K. at the 1/8 mi.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif time to update that stock tranny thing isnt it Ed?

patience, king d, patiencehttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clown.gif

Trippin, that is the info. I was looking for!! Wanna sell your 215???http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gifhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif Do You remember Your E.T.'s with the 215/#5/mizer stack?? I,m stacking 110/H.J.#5/mizer ......no dyno results, but doing O.K. at the 1/8 mi.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif


My best with that stack that night was 14.33, but no traction at all in 2wd.


2.3 60 ft times


I want to try that same stack on the dyno and then at the track in 4wd.