I just got off the phone with GMC and they gave me two different payload answers, and the glove box states yet another.

GM says payload for my 04 GMC SRW 4WD crew cab is 3,660LBS. But the sticker in the glove box says slide in camper max payload is 1,993 LBS.

The poor guy on the phone was dumbfounded as I am. I am thinking of putting a camper on and the difference in payload weights make a HUGE difference in which model I can get.

Along with that I talker to the camper MFG. and he puts his largest unit on the back of the same truck ( 3,300 lbs.) AND pulls a trailer with two more just like it on the back for deliveries.

Any help would be appreciated.

You need to have the truck weighted at a certified set of scales in order to know the exact number of pounds.


I believe that the SRW 3500 has a GVWR of 9900 lbs. so you would subtract the weight of your truck from the 9900 lbs. then you would have the answer.


Every truck will have a different payload, due to different options, the drivers not weighting the same, and other factors.

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What he said!


Bill

Thanks guys, this is the sticker that worries me



9900 GVWR

6239 Curb Weight
3660 payload weight per web site GM.com
http://www.cssevents.com/DSCF2265.jpg

But look at the sticker in the glove box (1,993) Why would they put that there with 1668 difference between glove box sticker and GVWR minus curb weight.

Even GM doesn't have an answer, but the sticker is scaring the crap out of me I certainly don't want to overload the truck and jeopardize family safety.


Edited by: Kendall69

I just went out and looked at mine. It is a 2500 and the door sticker says 9200 GVWR and glove box sticker says 1773 for a camper. If I am reading this correctly, the 1773 is all the camper can weigh.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif

Thanks guys, this is the sticker that worries me



9900 GVWR

6239 Curb Weight
3660 payload weight per web site GM.com
http://www.cssevents.com/DSCF2265.jpg

But look at the sticker in the glove box (1,993) Why would they put that there with 1668 difference between glove box sticker and GVWR minus curb weight.

Even GM doesn't have an answer, but the sticker is scaring the crap out of me I certainly don't want to overload the truck and jeopardize family safety.





The published payload is distributed over both axels ~ the camper rating is the max amount over the rear axel ~ note the glovebox value is close to your 3500 rating of 'One Ton' Likewise w/Hacksaws 2500 being 3/4 ton, his glovebox published value is near that value. I think the boys over at: http://www.rv.net/forums/index.cfm/fuseaction/listings/forum/41.cfm


could probably explain the mystery out better than I http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gif Whatever you do, don't accept every word the camper salesman tells you as gospel. Its my personal belief that most huge truck campers seen on the road today are pushing overgross if not actually so. Just how safe they are is questionable ~ some will install airbags to hedge/minimize risk but for me I wouldn't take a chance ~ obviously, the 3500 trucks would fair better for the large campers.


Good luck.


Edited by: ShumDit

Welcome to the world of confusion. Realize you are in a room with elephants dancing.


GM and Dodge play games with payloads and laws to tailor salability in major markets. The stuff you read in brochures is for stripped 2wd 2 door pickups with the base engine. The Duramax crew cab has the least capacity of any Duramax pickup.


The true governing limits are axle capacity and tire capacity. Change to Rickson wheels and tires and you can run right up to axle capacity.

Frank - LMAO funny. OK here's an update after spending several hours on the phone with a lot of "pros" and several Camper manufacturers and GM customer service - the combined answer is a great big WE DON"T KNOW.

I even asked to speak to the GM engineer who came up with the sticker - no luck. GM called back after 4 hours of research and left a message on my answering machine that I think I will save forever, as it says absolutely nothing, or I should say that he said the sticker says what the sticker says and the GVWR is what the GVWR is . Hmmmmm

There are only two things I need in a camper AIR and Gennie, and with the weight being so small they don't even put those options on campers that small.

Don't tell me I just purchased the mother of all trucks and now I'm relegated to a truck cap and two tents, oh, and a cooler
( maybe)

Ive had 4500 lbs in the back. She rode fine.

I have a guess !!! The slide in camper is TALL. The weight at that height would cause the truck to be less stable. My dump truck gets a little teetery when loaded with tall stuff.

Kendall check your email.

Dmax Tim

GREAT man you nailed it. I want to publicly thank all who have chimed in with help, what a great site, it's like walking into a hometown coffee shop with a bunch of guys you know, but who only drive diesel trucks. You guys ROCK!!!!

For anyone else who needs this kind of kelp
here is the link to the form that Dmax Tim sent me, the least I can do is share the wealth.
http://www.cssevents.com/printbook2004.pdfEdited by: Kendall69

The reason I ordered my D/A CC 2WD is for my Lance 1071. The whole thing is marginal weight wise. But use of a SRW truck here in CA means you will not have a problem with commercial plates and weight fees. GM wants to sell trucks; CA wants to collect taxes; Lance wants to sell campers. Nobody wants to tell you the true, best way to get the setup you want.


You can always go with more truck. The limiting factor for weight with the standard pickup is the tires. You can fix that.


For actual use of the camper you will want to add a rear anti-roll bar, probably air bags and good shocks, either the Rancho or Blistene. Of course to carry anything else you will want a front hitch and rear hitch. A bigger tanks is nice, so are a few other things.

Hey Frank which shock do you have. Reading the posts it's about 50/50 on Bilstein and Rancho - Rancho because you can adjust them (9) ways.